Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] font installer free type fonts

2013-05-14 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi doru How do you use SourceCodeProSemibold for example StandardFonts codeFont: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Source Code Pro' pointSize: 10). Because there is no family name for semi bold Stef On May 11, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] font installer free type fonts

2013-05-14 Thread stephane ducasse
guess we need to review this part of Pharo. Cheers, Doru On May 11, 2013, at 5:39 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi doru How do you use SourceCodeProSemibold for example StandardFonts codeFont: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Source Code Pro

Re: [Pharo-project] [Lsehub-staff] AST-Navigation short demo

2013-05-13 Thread stephane ducasse
gisela Did you implement an sender and implementors based on the selector (ast analysis)? Did we replace the old one with this new one? Stef On May 8, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I've recorded the video as Damian suggested to show how to use the code

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] the future of squeaksource

2013-05-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 7, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Andrei Vasile Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Given that SmalltalkHub is now stable we were considering to discontinue SqueakSource. Our idea is to provide a grace period of a couple of months to allow the current active users to migrate

Re: [Pharo-project] RFB in 2.0

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
this is called PharoExtras. Stef On May 6, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 03.05.2013 um 20:09 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 03.05.2013 um 20:00 schrieb

Re: [Pharo-project] Programming interactions with State Machines

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 6, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Carla F. Griggio carla.grig...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone! I'm here to tell you that I started experimenting with a Pharo implementation of this idea: http://swingstates.sourceforge.net/. For those into UI programming I really recommend reading the first

Re: [Pharo-project] about logCr: vs. log: vs. trace:/traceCr:

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
I think that Cr is useless because they are to separate line in text and I want to kill text and just get objects (that can produce text but from a list of objects I easily can add a cr between their printstring :) Stef On May 5, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] about logCr: vs. log: vs. trace:/traceCr:

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 6, 2013, at 7:16 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: I mentioned in another thread. #crLog, #logCr are intuitive and perfectly fine. Also hook Loggers first class into the system ( Toothpick ) and make it default to Transcript with these messages routed to the

Re: [Pharo-project] about logCr: vs. log: vs. trace:/traceCr:

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes I have that in what I prepare. Stef On May 6, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. What about logging levels? I like logInfo:, logDebug:, logTrace:. Or maybe it is better to split log with levels: self log info:, self log debug:, self log trace:

Re: [Pharo-project] about logCr: vs. log: vs. trace:/traceCr:

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
I assume crLog:/logCr: is a short and convenient form of something else. How would these be called? Basically I want to log objects YES and only the default in Object should use Transcript in combination with asString. On top of the short form a convenient selector that adds a line

Re: [Pharo-project] about logCr: vs. log: vs. trace:/traceCr:

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 6, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 06.05.2013 um 08:00 schrieb Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com: Hello. What about logging levels? I like logInfo:, logDebug:, logTrace:. Or maybe it is better to split log with levels: self log info:, self

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-05-06 until: 2013-05-19

2013-05-06 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 6, 2013, at 7:00 AM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter! ###

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo: an AMAZING community

2013-05-05 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks! I hope that it will help people in their business. Stef On May 5, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: +100! Special thanks to Stef and all the guys at Lille. You're responsible for a lot of the drive that we generate. Max On 05.05.2013, at 16:13, Sean P.

Re: [Pharo-project] Sprint

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 4, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everybody for the great sprint! We fixed a lot of things today (incomplete list, please extend): - DateAndTime startup cleansing - Fixing and integrating the new EyeInspector - Fixing Monticello

Re: [Pharo-project] How to Debug :D

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote: This is great news! Are you going to publish the code? it will come in handy for my summer of code :D Camillo has the image On 3 May 2013 03:21, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Camillo Bruni camillobr

Re: [Pharo-project] the newlist breaks the changesorter.

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
forget it was fixed in latest…30 On May 4, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: running out to do shopping. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30100

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
marcus can you merge with my version of scriptloader next time you integrate? Because my changes are not in. Stef On May 4, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30100 - 10501 EyeInspector grammar issue https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10501

Re: [Pharo-project] How to Debug :D

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
looks like : interpret 2 interpret 1 interpret + with two precedent results on stack interpret ^ with precedent result on stack 2013/5/4 Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com 2013/5/4 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr On May 4, 2013, at 1:04 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Pharo-project] How to Debug :D

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
: currentASTNode nextNode ]. And interpretation looks like : interpret 2 interpret 1 interpret + with two precedent results on stack interpret ^ with precedent result on stack 2013/5/4 Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com 2013/5/4 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr On May 4, 2013, at 1

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo Logo SVG

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
this is cool :) Stef On May 4, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: And here how it looks in Athens.. yeah SVG importer needs more love, but my hands is too busy right now :( AthensSceneView new scene: (AthensSVGConverter fromFile: 'logo.svg');

Re: [Pharo-project] Using Athens for real ...

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 4, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 May 2013 12:31, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that view is very neat! Especially for debugging, maintaining the Smalltalk immediate feedback principle :0 and after i finish with path geometry

Re: [Pharo-project] How to Debug :D

2013-05-04 Thread stephane ducasse
case/cases of the recursion, and a block that, when evaluated, will yield the next value on which to recurse. (So the block replaces the recursive call.) The trampoline thus turns the recursive algorithm into an iteration. frank On 4 May 2013 17:42, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr

[Pharo-project] How to Debug :D

2013-05-03 Thread stephane ducasse
Begin forwarded message: From: Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com Subject: [Lsehub-staff] How to Debug :D Date: May 2, 2013 6:22:06 PM GMT+02:00 To: RMoD private list lsehub-st...@lists.gforge.inria.fr Reply-To: RMoD private list lsehub-st...@lists.gforge.inria.fr Igor: Camillo can

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] GemStone/S product and team move to a dedicated company

2013-05-03 Thread stephane ducasse
this is cool :) Stef On May 3, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote: If you haven't already heard, the GemStone/S team is becoming an independent company after 3 years as part of VMware. The entire engineering team is moving to GemTalk Systems[1]. GemTalk Systems

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can retrieve the global by its name?

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
+ 1 Let's propose a nice protocal and we use the rewrite tool for real! This is also why I want crLog instead of Transcript show: Stef Hi, all do not think that i am drunk or vent crazy, asking such silly question, which at best should be asked only by beginner :) I

Re: [Pharo-project] Moment of fun

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
Neat!!! Hello. (UpdatingStringMorph on: otherMorph selector: #position) openInWorld. and then move otherMorph on screen or (UpdatingStringMorph on: otherMorph selector: #extent) openInWorld. and then resize otherMorph 2013/4/30 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Hi

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can retrieve the global by its name?

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
ConfigurationOfXYZ globalValue project bleedingEdge load. #ConfigurationOfXYZ globalValue project bleedingEdge load. may be #ConfigurationOfXYZ asClass ?

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can retrieve the global by its name?

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 2, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: What's global? Even if you haven't implemented scoped environments, rather use a name that doesn't imply that you'll never have scoped environments. :) this is why I proposed asClass Now asGlobal can be interpreted as

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can retrieve the global by its name?

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
asGlobalOrSomethingLikeThat :-) ;D

Re: [Pharo-project] How i can retrieve the global by its name?

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
But today using Smalltalk everywhere means that we are always using the same environment, and that does not look like a big deal to anybody :)... And then, that's easily solved by doing some simple stuff if you like specify an environment, isn't it? SymbolasClass self

Re: [Pharo-project] froze image just

2013-05-02 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 2, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 09:54, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: What? I am 99.99% sure it used to interrupt the GUI process if no other viable candidate could be found, why change that? At least in my mind, if you

Re: [Pharo-project] 512 MB is not that much (Windows limit) WAS: RE: Opal Decompiler status

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi I think that you have some points :) Indeed for Moose we should pay attention because we often deploy on windows. I wouldn't oppose to having the sources (or the AST or whatever ;-) in [object-]memory, although retaining the option of _also_ still writing all the changes into an

Re: [Pharo-project] froze image just

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 1, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 April 2013 22:44, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: trying to publish a slice on my harddisc without network…. and I could not interrupt anything. No cmd+. no interdiction sign did anything :( So is

Re: [Pharo-project] Moment of fun

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
I was more thinking in something useful :) On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: anObject become: String new. for become: related teaching, this is fun:

Re: [Pharo-project] date and time delays

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 1, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Igor, How far is the fix, can I download it somewhere and test it? the changes of nicolas are nice and we should integrate them. I still think I get very strange side-effects from the waiting delay processes :P

Re: [Pharo-project] froze image just

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes :) Same behavior here On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Btw. Waiting for network timeout doesn't work. That is to say, waiting a night is not long enough Stephan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Re: [Pharo-project] SUnit design question

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
Indeed it would be nice to have. On May 1, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if I asked that question before, but why is there no dedicated TestRunner model in SUnit? (detailed question further down) There is a TestRunner but that is clearly a UI

Re: [Pharo-project] froze image just

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Yes :) Same behavior here On May 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Btw. Waiting for network timeout doesn't work. That is to say, waiting a night is not long enough Stephan Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Well

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30080

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
30080 - 10461 Fixes for NewList https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10461 10432 Move API of Decompiler to Compiler facade https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10432 10465 Better syntax hilighting of start of existing identifier

Re: [Pharo-project] Moment of fun

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
Yes! That's a great one :) I added to my presentation. Stef On May 1, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I really love the use of fuel to serialize errors on the build server: - [ some

Re: [Pharo-project] Moment of fun

2013-05-01 Thread stephane ducasse
On May 1, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, great superpowers! A bit more lightweight and efficient than abort(); gdb myApp core A small reminder for myself: [ (Delay forSeconds: 2 hours asSeconds) wait. WorldState addDeferredUIMessage:

Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo 3.0 :)

2013-04-30 Thread stephane ducasse
imagine soon athens :) Stef On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 April 2013 07:50, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I thought that Pharo 20 got a lot of improvements but when I see Pharo 30, it feels like Pharo 30 is

Re: [Pharo-project] dynamic spec contents

2013-04-30 Thread stephane ducasse
ben we should add that to the spec chapter. Can you log it somewhere and one day :) we pair write it :). Stef On Apr 30, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: I just added two new examples in Spec-Examples-PolyWidgets

Re: [Pharo-project] Generalizing Keymapping idea

2013-04-29 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Do you think about generalizing Keymapping idea on any event combinations (not just keyboard)? So we can write code like morph on: Mouse click ctrl do: [] morph on: $a click ctrl do: [] morph on: Mouse

Re: [Pharo-project] rubric performace

2013-04-29 Thread stephane ducasse
doru can you reproduce your crash? Because igor asked and I did not see your answer. Stef On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I did a little experiment to check the performance of Rubric when dealing with large content. And by large, I mean 45 MB or

Re: [Pharo-project] rubric performace

2013-04-29 Thread stephane ducasse
info I will let you know. Doru On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:44 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: doru can you reproduce your crash? Because igor asked and I did not see your answer. Stef On Apr 25, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
. Ah, young guys are so impatient to invent the future ;) 2013/4/27 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Since DateAndTime comment is out of date (sic !) and current implementation seems

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi denis Alain is gone on vacation but it told me that if you code scale he will throw away what he did :) May be the decorators that alain wrote can be merged. In any case this is excellent to get a better system. Yes. This is why I work on this project. But my first proposals was

Re: [Pharo-project] Why keymap modifiers change receiver instead of return new instance?

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Hello. I found this: shortcut := $a ctrl. self assert: shortcut == shortcut shift Why modifiers change receiver state instead of create new instance? I can understand since they modify the shortcut. To me it is very bad unexpected behaviour. Why? There is another example:

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
: On 28 April 2013 08:41, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: thanks a lot! Friday we have an official sprint so I'm sure that this issue will be addressed. yes. and i hope i will put my changes into the soup as well. (i did not published them, and some bits are unfinished). Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30069

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
We should really ask nicolas to check why the diff is broken because it was really nice to be able to follow changes. Stef On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30069 - 10423 simplify #firstPrecodeCommentFor:

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: I upload new version 0.7: - clipboard operations - more navigation shortcuts - fixed bugs when editing text from start or end text positions - optimized text drawing to draw only visible lines - optimized

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Nicolas I read all the slice and I like it (even if they are place where I do not get fully it :). I'm dead. So may be this is obvious but I do not understand the or: logic If the seconds is negative I do not understand what is happening. normalizeSecondsAndNanos (NanosInSecond = nanos

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
of // and \\ So the jdn is decremented and seconds are correctly normalized. 2013/4/28 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr Nicolas I read all the slice and I like it (even if they are place where I do not get fully it :). I'm dead. So may be this is obvious but I do not understand

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30069

2013-04-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: stephane ducasse wrote We should really ask nicolas to check why the diff is broken I mentioned a few times that it seems that it fails when none of the package version's ancestors are present on stub. e.g. from

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30066

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
marcus do you know why the diff does not work with SmalltalkHub? On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30066 - 10401 Add Amber BlockClosure asynchronous methods into Pharo https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10401 10418 cleanUp

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
Nice! Denis did you see the benchs that doru tried to see if we can use Rubric? Because it is interesting to see if we can load and manipulate really large file. Now it would be good that alain releases Rubric with a stable version and check how to take advantage of the new TextMorph. Stef On

Re: [Pharo-project] Smart Suggestion Version 1

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/24 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr What would be cool is to have a way to select the enclosing expression but you know it:) Now I'm selecting the node from the expression where you asked

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
this new TextMorph. Stef On Apr 27, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/27 Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com 2013/4/27 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr Nice! Denis did you see the benchs that doru tried to see if we can use Rubric? Because

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] TxText. New text editor done!

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi denis Alain is gone on vacation but it told me that if you code scale he will throw away what he did :) May be the decorators that alain wrote can be merged. In any case this is excellent to get a better system. Stef On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] Trying to understand DateAndTime

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Since DateAndTime comment is out of date (sic !) and current implementation seems not free of bug, here is an effort to summarize and understand the whole thing, let's call this a review. Thanks this is

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal Decompiler status

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
But I would like that we finish first all the other cool tasks for 3.0 before opening something new. Finishing is difficult so let us focus on it. Stef On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Nicolas Cellier

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal Decompiler status

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks Marcus. I'm among the skepticals concerning the AST, but I'd like to be proven wrong, because AST level would certainly simplify things a lot. Me too :) But marcus knows it since the end of his PhD :D. This is why I really want to see AST compression. My main reserve is that

Re: [Pharo-project] Opal Decompiler status

2013-04-27 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Right, if you embed source along with CompiledMethod (to handle the case when the CompiledMethod has been replaced but one of its block of code is still used), then you don't need Decompiler in the first

Re: [Pharo-project] SandstoneDB on Pharo 2.0 - done - what next?

2013-04-26 Thread stephane ducasse
also, I noticed there is no ConfigurationOfSandstoneDB... There already is one in MetacellRepository, just look at the comments below the video: It seems to work well when the ConfigufationOfXyz is kept with the project and then copied to wherever else it should be. I find that by now

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for ESUG 2013 presentations

2013-04-25 Thread stephane ducasse
stephane ducasse: with the corrected url with corrected uppercased C for conferences :) 21st International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions Annecy, France from 9 to 13 September 2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/ This call includes: Developer Forum

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30062

2013-04-25 Thread stephane ducasse
do what is the easiest for you :) Stef On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Not yet… so I managed to not see a bug and now the image is in a non-updatable state. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-1-Tracker/259/console I am even too

Re: [Pharo-project] Smart Suggestion Version 1

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
+ 1 Interfaces are a cool concept and we should use them and adhere to them conceptually I am tempted to deprecate #definesMethod: and just rename it to canUnderstand: (and fix all senders) This way the RB model for code would be one step closer to normal classes and methods.

Re: [Pharo-project] Smart Suggestion Version 1

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
What would be good is that when we get the sender/implementor is to get - the name of the entity as first entry in the menu - get the entity selected in the text. blockClosureValue: aBlockClosure message: aMessage |newMessage| newMessage := Message selector:

Re: [Pharo-project] Smart Suggestion Version 1

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I got the point :) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10392#75301 Now I will work to mark the selections and the problems with senders form the symbol. Thanks :) I'm toying with rubric and I dream about

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Browsing some code and surprise

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
may be the best is to - stabilize the current functionality and - have a look at rubric alain told me that now syntax highlight was working. Stef On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: #Editorselect If the text selection is

Re: [Pharo-project] Call for ESUG 2013 presentations

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
with the corrected url with corrected uppercased C for conferences :) 21st International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions Annecy, France from 9 to 13 September 2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/ This call includes: Developer Forum Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-project] configuration speed

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I checked the issue under 3.0 with the configuration loading speed. Main Performance Issues: Gofer: package-cache always used by Gofer = big shared package-cache is very slow

Re: [Pharo-project] Rubric questions :)

2013-04-24 Thread stephane ducasse
I will retry in 30 because I see that you announce symbol :) On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi alain better talk not privately :) MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main' user: ''

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello for Pharo 2 and Pharo 3 ?

2013-04-23 Thread stephane ducasse
we should define the 3.0.x tag in the image. Stef Hi, is there already a #'pharo3.0.x' tag in metacello when we want to have different package version in Pharo 3.0 instead of 2.0 ? I tried spec for: #'pharo3.0.x' version: '0.2' and it didn't work. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier

Re: [Pharo-project] plugin in Nautilus

2013-04-21 Thread stephane ducasse
and Versionner right away, and not have to scroll down. So this is why I said I want load latest :) But I think that the most important, is to be able to particularize the system, and not really to get the best behavior. Cheers, Alexandre On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:32 AM, stephane ducasse

Re: [Pharo-project] plugin in Nautilus

2013-04-21 Thread stephane ducasse
the best behavior. Cheers, Alexandre On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:32 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: I use a group for that :) And what I would love is a group: latest loaded packages. On Apr 20, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote

Re: [Pharo-project] Old bugs fixed by Opal

2013-04-20 Thread stephane ducasse
Did you use https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Opal/ The Opal in the image is a bit out-dated… I did just now, but there, debugging *anything* (even 3 + 4, or using cmd dot) with the Opal Compiler set to default seemed to bring the image into a near catatonic state… Sort of hard to

Re: [Pharo-project] plugin in Nautilus

2013-04-20 Thread stephane ducasse
I use a group for that :) And what I would love is a group: latest loaded packages. On Apr 20, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! Is there a documentation on how to create a plugin for Nautilus? I would like to create a command 'Hide all

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Roassal new algorithms

2013-04-20 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: This visualization is precisely made for hierarchical graphs. That is why the edges are called hierarchical bundled edges. So, yes, you need a hierarchical graph. +1 :) Cheers, Doru On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:57

Re: [Pharo-project] Any wishes for Roassal?

2013-04-20 Thread stephane ducasse
We want speed up and less garbage generation (ie do not use collect when do will make it or some stuff like that). May be people here could have a look at it and do a fast code review? Stef Hi! Roassal 2.0 is on the way. We would like to make sure everybody find this release attractive.

Re: [Pharo-project] Version 1.39 of Versionner

2013-04-20 Thread stephane ducasse
We should add more information in the configurationOf Stef No idea why happened. I copied the a missing file in the repository Try again, it should work now Alexandre Works now - thanks. I've put a copy of the config into ss3/MetaRepoForPharo20 so one can easily load via Configuration

Re: [Pharo-project] Version 1.39 of Versionner

2013-04-20 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Works now - thanks. I've put a copy of the config into ss3/MetaRepoForPharo20 so one can easily load via Configuration browser from within the 2.0 image. Excellent! Something that would be amazing, is to have a small

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on iOS with Bluetooth keyboard working almost in full.

2013-04-19 Thread stephane ducasse
now I considering ipad :) On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: sweet :) On Apr 19, 2013, at 12:00 AM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: I've made some progress on using the external keyboard. Now, it is about usable. Some mappings still

Re: [Pharo-project] SS lost project description edits done in december 2012

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 18, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2013 12:37, Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se wrote: Hi! I moved a lot of my projects to StHub back in december, and then I edited the Project descriptions on SS to show that. But these changes have been lost I

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in 2.0 again

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Le 18 avr. 2013 à 05:16, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : Christophe Demarey wrote I was wondering if it is possible to downgrade an already installed package in a configuration. For now, why don't we just

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello configuration conventions

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
Dale I was discussing with christophe yesterday and what would be good in metacello is to be able to have in one version of the configurationOf all the information about previous heads stable versions because right now to get this information we need to load previous versions until we see that

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
Sure, typical refactoring process. Code is convoluted and hard to follow, so you first document and explicit most obscure steps. In a second time, you realize how simpler it could be... Pharo is quite fast and still accelerating these days, so I understand the satisfecit, it's already

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2013 19:17, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, typical refactoring process. Code is convoluted and hard to follow, so you first document and explicit most obscure steps. In a

Re: [Pharo-project] Argument names created by Debugger

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
a bit smarter system does not hurt. Stef On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: I tweaked the code because in my most common case, I don't care that it's e.g. aByteString, but only that it's aString: (argument isKindOf: String) ifTrue: [ ^

Re: [Pharo-project] [Athens] A new wave of impressionism

2013-04-18 Thread stephane ducasse
:) This is cool that you push athens. Because this is really important for Pharo. Stef Not really impressive (that's why it called new wave) Here is results of 2 days of preparing/implementing and polishing a quadric bezier curve approximation algorithm by series of lines. The red

Re: [Pharo-project] the fun theory

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
excellent! Yes we should make pharo a fun theory :) Stef On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: When I saw this website, I immediately thought about Pharo http://www.thefuntheory.com This site is dedicated to the thought that something as simple as fun is the

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20599

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 17 Apr 2013, at 13:06, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 20599 - 10297 Integrate 2.0: 10295 Zinc Update April 16th https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10297 Hey Marcus, that is even cooler. I

Re: [Pharo-project] [Sprint] Sprint Lille May 3rd

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
we will do one for the next one. Now we need to kill bugs like mad. On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:02 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Why not make a doodle for this? 2013/4/17 Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com cool :) Ben On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I really really like this :) very simple yet powerful! Yes this will massively simplify the debugger :) So we will be able to get a debugger really working without needing an magician to fix its bugs. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the AST Node for a Context

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
I should say that I LOVVVE the comments in the method. Yes Yes Yes. Stef Yes, just the AST with Semantic Analysis information (Scope and Semantic Variables), plus bytecodelevel IR that provides the bridge to the low-level pc (bytecode mapping) data… e.g. to get the highlight

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013-04-17 Thread stephane ducasse
add a bug entry and tag it so that we simply do not forget. Stef On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Johan Brichau-2 wrote fwiw, I changed the implementation of NECController... NECController-Changes.cs (5K)

Re: [Pharo-project] How to browse a selected method in code viewer

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 16, 2013, at 2:35 PM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dammien Alt+m is the implementors, and as i said implementors works for me, however alt+b which is for browsing does nothing. strange and how can we know in which class it is? Browse on a selector = should be equivalent to

Re: [Pharo-project] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: aaah I love to see a response to that :P my vicious plan to spam the pharo list when there are new tests failing seems to work :) Hehehe yes we will conquer the world :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello configuration conventions

2013-04-16 Thread stephane ducasse
Christophe I agree with you As a general purpose reflexion on dependencies conventions, I would say: If you are in development mode, it makes sense to rely on latest versions of dependencies (bleeding edge) to be able to detect integration problems as soon as possible. If you are in a

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