Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:29 AM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: >> Unless my understanding of the proposal is way off, you would just add >> "poolDictionaries: 'whatever'" before "category:". No horrible breaking of >> anything would happen. >> >> Cheers, >> Sergi > I disagree ;-) > I find it hard

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

Note that I'm not advocating removing PoolDictionaries. Just to have the subclassing template not mention them. I would leave the subclassing message with the poolDictionaries: argument in the system for people to use it if they want to. On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:02 AM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wro

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

just for the record, I am no old timer Smalltalker, I come from python just introduced the past year to pharo. I dont pay attention to the poolDictionaries , I have seen it used as concept by NBOpenGL , looks like a fan idea, it does not distract me from my coding, I am glad its there because one

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > > On 14 Nov 2013, at 11:10, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > >> Yuri, >> >> Okay, so why not go one step further and kill PoolDictionaries? >> I mean, if no one uses them and you'd like to hide them from the users, they >> obviously are un

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

2013/11/14 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > Yuri, > > Okay, so why not go one step further and kill PoolDictionaries? > This was done in OOVM / Resilient Smalltalk. And it was clean and worked well. > I mean, if no one uses them and you'd like to hide them from the users, > they obviously are unneces

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

Am 14.11.13 11:23, schrieb Sergi Reyner: 2013/11/14 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>> And what if I need PoolDictionaries? Unless my understanding of the proposal is way off, you would just add "poolDictionaries: 'whatever'" before

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

Yuri, the GUI idea has an up and a down side. The up side is that it's much easier to use. The down side is that there is no way to ex- and import a class definition without a proper syntax. So what is needed is both: a proper syntax and some way to make things easier for the mousey people.

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

2013/11/14 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > > And what if I need PoolDictionaries? Unless my understanding of the proposal is way off, you would just add "poolDictionaries: 'whatever'" before "category:". No horrible breaking of anything would happen. Cheers, Sergi

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

On 14 Nov 2013, at 11:10, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > Yuri, > > Okay, so why not go one step further and kill PoolDictionaries? > I mean, if no one uses them and you'd like to hide them from the users, they > obviously are unnecessary. That would be a real cleanup, right? Yes it would, th

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

Yuri, Okay, so why not go one step further and kill PoolDictionaries? I mean, if no one uses them and you'd like to hide them from the users, they obviously are unnecessary. That would be a real cleanup, right? PoolDictionaries are potentially dangerous, because you can put things there that

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

On 14 Nov 2013, at 11:02, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to draw your attention to something else: consistency. > > I remember the days when Cincom added Namespaces to classes and the class > definition template changed drastically. It took me quite a while to get used > to

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

Hi, I'd like to draw your attention to something else: consistency. I remember the days when Cincom added Namespaces to classes and the class definition template changed drastically. It took me quite a while to get used to that. And there is this other aspect in the consistency field: most Sma

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

+10 On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > +1 > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am preparing slides for a course. I came to the typical: >> >> Number subclass: #Complex >> instanceVariableNames: 'real imaginary' >> classVariableNames:

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

+1 On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > Hi all, > > I am preparing slides for a course. I came to the typical: > > Number subclass: #Complex > instanceVariableNames: 'real imaginary' > classVariableNames: '' > poolDictionaries: '' > category: 'ComplexNumbers' > > Which made m

Re: [Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

+1 On 12 nov. 2013, at 16:39, Johan Fabry wrote: > Hi all, > > I am preparing slides for a course. I came to the typical: > > Number subclass: #Complex > instanceVariableNames: 'real imaginary' > classVariableNames: '' > poolDictionaries: '' > category: 'ComplexNumbers' > > Which made me

[Pharo-users] Who uses poolDictionaries? New class template cleanup

Hi all, I am preparing slides for a course. I came to the typical: Number subclass: #Complex instanceVariableNames: 'real imaginary' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'ComplexNumbers' Which made me think: Who uses poolDictionaries? I suspect extremely few of us. Why