[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-15 Thread George
I too have dealt with a couple of similar situations where the poor packing was to blame for a partial or total loss of the shipped item. The shipper will never pay in such a situation and the sellers always claim it was not their fault. I've had machines placed in a totally empty box with very

[Phono-L] Not a Fan of PayPal

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
Take the seller to court, or lump it. Those are now the choices. Not pleasant but that is it. You could trash their reputation which sometimes proves effective though. __Name?_ Dealing with the US Post office relating to insurance is tricky and fraught with problems. With the post office

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Mike Stitt
One of the reasons ( of many ) I don't buy phonographs on eBay is it breaks my heart to hear of yet another phonograph lost to shipping. I can't afford to take that hit.I'm old school. Go to shows, go to Union. Hey it is fun to meet others. At shows like Union if you do it right you might just

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Mario Frazzetto
Some might disagree but I now get most of what I sell now professionally packaged (pack and send) Yes it might add $20-30 to postage but I'm of the belief that it is probably just as imporant as insurance and if you have to make a claim on your insurance just whip out the packing receipt and the

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Albert
I'm with Mario: If I sell a phonograph I take it to a packaging store and they take care of everything. Sure it costs more but I think most buyers would prefer that as well. I have shipped many wood horn machines and have never lost one yet. Union is great but they do not offer packaging ser

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Robert Wright
More great points. I definitely agree with professional packers for expensive, delicate items if it keeps UPS, et. al, from blaming poor packing -- especially if the packers offer their own insurance and/or a guarantee, which they'd almost have to. $50 extra ain't much compared to saving a $5

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
OK, Here is my opinion on the "packaging store" it is real simple, a basic waste of mony. I have yet to see a decent job come out of one of those places. How do you expect a low buck clerk to have any idea on how to pack a phono? It does provide a small layer of insurance that the final ca

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Robert Wright
Ouch. But Rich, did you see or get a receipt for the 'professional' packing? Do you know what company you could've blamed for it (and who we should avoid)? Are you positive the seller didn't just pocket the money? I've only used pro-packers a couple of times, always as a sender, never a rece

[Phono-L] Shipping phonographs-Herzog, NCR

2007-02-15 Thread Andrew Baron
My packaging store story is another reason not to rest easy when using professional pack-ship places. I was having a mahogany Herzog cylinder phonograph cabinet shipped, which was taken to a store to be packed. This is one of the models with the interleaving shelves and rounded front (710).

[Phono-L] shipping phonographs

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
The problem you have is that when the seller contracts the "professional" packing he gets the rcpt and you still do not have a lot of recourse if the seller does not play. I was lucky, nothing broke. The "professional' packing does at least insure that UPS /FedEx will honor the claim. The U

[Phono-L] Shipping phonographs-Herzog, NCR

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
You should look at it this way, You have helped take some idiot off of the street and provide them with a job. That is what your money went for as it definitely did not go for a proper packing job, even when instructions were provided. If you stand there and watch them , it goes better. Rich

[Phono-L] Shipping Herzog & NCR P.S.

2007-02-15 Thread Andrew Baron
Hello all ~ It occurred to me that it's probably relevant to mention that NONE of the items I mentioned in my last posting about shipping damage were procured from eBay sellers or any other on-line auctions. I say this to separate the shipping issue from the eBay issues that get discusse

[Phono-L] Shipping phonographs-Herzog, NCR

2007-02-15 Thread mari...@optusnet.com.au
Pack and Send the company I use is a franchise and the owner of the store is who packs the phonographs etc... for me. I stand there while things are being packed too and watch as the item goes into the box. Cheers, Mario > Andrew Baron wrote: > > My packaging store story is another reason n

[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** shipping antiques=business opportunity

2007-02-15 Thread David Dazer
It seems to me, the market could stand a company that will ship antiques and provide proper packaging. Part of it would be gentle handling and not expect it should drop off of a conveyor belt 6 feet to the floor or stand a 100 pound package dropping on it. I sold a $600 clock on Ebay last year

[Phono-L] Shipping Herzog & NCR P.S.

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
To pack an Edison spring drive phono you have to remove the mechanism from the case and pack them separately. Now to pack the mechanism you should do at least the following: Bread tie the governor weights on both sides. Wrap a piece of closed cell polyethylene foam around the governor and ti

[Phono-L] shipping swords

2007-02-15 Thread Andrew Baron
Seems that the proper diameter PVC pipe would be the way to go with swords. I've had long sections of stainless steel vintage car side trim shipped this way and they arrive just fine every time. Andy Baron On Feb 15, 2007, at 5:31 PM, estott wrote: > A bit off the photograph topic, but if y

[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** shipping antiques=business opportunity

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
The wood crate inside the cardboard box works well as long as the contents can stand shocks. I have used this also. On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:19:45 -0800 (PST), David Dazer wrote: >It seems to me, the market could stand a company that will ship antiques and >provide proper packaging. Part of

[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** shipping antiques=business opportunity

2007-02-15 Thread George
The school I drive goes on a field trip each year to our local post office. This year the person giving the tour told us how the postal worker "threw" the packages into each bin for their particular route. I so wanted to speak up about their handling of packages, but that was neither the time or

[Phono-L] Shipping Herzog & NCR P.S.

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
Eric, Albany has box compainies and they sell packing tubes that are not too heavy and that a sword will fit in with adequate padding. Or the square tube mailer 5X5 X25, or 37, or 43. Also 3x3 same length selection. On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:31:17 -0500, estott wrote: >A bit off the photograph

[Phono-L] shipping swords

2007-02-15 Thread estott
- Original Message - From: "Andrew Baron" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: [Phono-L] shipping swords > Seems that the proper diameter PVC pipe would be the way to go with > swords. I've had long sections of stainless steel vintage car

[Phono-L] shipping swords

2007-02-15 Thread Walt
This is also applicable to horn cranes and crane part shipping, so it is by no means off-topic. About 5 years I sold a really nice late 1800's French dueling foil. The blade was expertly tempered, so I was a little reluctant to ship it. But what I did was first put it in a very heavy cardboard tub

[Phono-L] shipping swords

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
The square tube is only a couple of dollars, unless you go to an office supply. They will hit you for twice as much. On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:13:52 -0500, estott wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Andrew Baron" >To: "Antique Phonograph List" >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:53

[Phono-L] ***SPAM*** shipping antiques=business opportunity

2007-02-15 Thread john robles
What's this SPAM thing that is popping up once in a while by our email addresses?? George wrote: The school I drive goes on a field trip each year to our local post office. This year the person giving the tour told us how the postal worker "threw" the packages into each bin for their particu

[Phono-L] shipping swords

2007-02-15 Thread Rich
UPS charges extra for anything other than square cardboard so you will have to either pay the surcharge or buy a box. That is why you build the wood crate inside a cardboard box On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:26:41 -0500, Walt wrote: >This is also applicable to horn cranes and crane part shipping

[Phono-L] Hauling to Union and back to the West Coast

2007-02-15 Thread DeeDee Blais
Wow! All the horror stories about packing and shipping! I'm driving from Oregon to Union and back and am interested in hauling things to and from the West Coast for gas money. Please let me know if you are interested and contact me off list. Thanks, Jerry Blais _

[Phono-L] A few items for sale:

2007-02-15 Thread DeeDee Blais
Genola childs parts machine-tin cabinet, turntable, & motor. The green tin cabiinet has neat graphics on both sides and a Genola "Made in USA" label on the front. $55 plus shipping 11" paper Nippers - I have three extra. Two are original (with minor typical repairs) and one has been repainted.