Potmetal continues to grow until it just crumbles. Reaming is a
temporary fix. As someone else pointed out the bearing has probably been
lubed with 3 in 1 in the red can which is a pure mineral oil with no
rust or oxidation inhibitors and just soaking with Kroil will usually
get it going
Al,
Even if I did the BIN, whose to say that this seller will honor it? What galled
me was her raising the price while waiting on my offer. Anyway, it's no big
loss. I'll eventually find a nice set of these books.Like I said before, It's
only a hobby, and not worth getting mad over it.
Harvey
Another possibility is that if a machine is used regularly, there is enough
minute wear to the bearing that, even if it swells, the inner surface wears
away and the shaft remains free turning.
Ron L
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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
This is my opinion, I do not know if the pot metal or the bass would work
better. I used the roller bearing on my standard D. Some pot metal holds up
very well. The diamond B, diamond C and the late large dome tops are good
examples of this. I have had some people think the early diamond C
If it was not crumbling or expanding by now it probably will not later
so I would leave it. The problem is that the term pot metal actually
describes nothing. What was the actual formula that was used to cast
these bearings? What was the purity of the metals used? The lack of
dimensional
I don't agree that the potmetal probably never will expand. I just took an
Edison Standard Model D out of a closet where it sat untouched for several
years. The bearing was stuck. It was fine the previous time I used it.
Jim
On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Rich wrote:
If it was not crumbling
Avoid 3 in 1 oil
On 07/09/2011 09:56 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
Another possibility is that if a machine is used regularly, there is enough
minute wear to the bearing that, even if it swells, the inner surface wears
away and the shaft remains free turning.
Ron L
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Hi John-- I'd like to buy a few labels. Please contact me.
Brad
outune...@verizon.net
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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 10:33 am
Subject: [Phono-L] BA labels unlocked
Sorry, I had the setting on
I'm sure someone on the list can identify this box. It appears to be a three
pack from 1905.
Questions: What was it used for? Was it a special deal to buy three
cylinders? How common/uncommon is this box? Does anyone have one like it? What
would be a relative value? Any other information?
The new Phono-L server is up and running! I've concentrated on getting the
Phono-L and OTAPS lists up, however, the Phono-L chat is off line. I doubt that
it will be up in time for the chat session this evening.
Thanks again to everyone who donated a few $$ to get the process moving. I
really
They're fairly common. I have a couple of three cylinder size and a twelve
cylinder. I also have a six cylinder size for wax Amberols which
illustrates an Idelia instead of the old couple.
I seem to remember someone selling them on eBay regularly.
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From: Vinyl
That's what I have been thinking, since Charles McCarn who has an enormous
collection and has been collecting for 40 or 50 years has never come across
one... besides, what can the survival rate of a disposable cardboard box
actually be?
From: jnic...@fuse.net
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 19:14:27
Back when I used to look at all the Edison cylinder records on eBay I saw about
6 of them for sale on eBay over the years. I saved a photo of the 3 pack, it
has the old couple listening on the other side. The old couple has a copyright
of 190 and I cannot see the last number. It looks like
since Charles McCarn who has an enormous collection and has been collecting
for 40 or 50 years has never come across one... besides, what can the
survival rate of a disposable cardboard box actually be?
Perhaps Charles in his 40 or 50 years, has not had the opportunity
I would be interested in knowing if it was the oil or the pot metal swelling.
3 in 1 is horrible, ever wonder what the varnish is on the governors? I rebuild
reproducers and like Rich says 3 in 1 makes an excellent glue. If anyone wants
any 3 in 1 I have two containers from the 1980's I will
Ok, let me re-phrase that; they are not terribly rare. My 6-cylinder was
from a fellow collector in the 1990s, my two 3-cylinders were from another
collector but my Amberol box came from Union or one of the East Coast shows
and wasn't at all expensive. I can't remember how much, but that
I can scan the other side with the old couple on it. At the moment, I am
re-inforcing the seams from the inside. A couple of the flaps were off and in
the bottom of the box, so I decided to re-attach them by gluing strips from an
old record sleeve to the inside for hinges. The date on the box
These boxes indeed turn up now and then. I have the 3, 6, and 12-record
varieties myself, and I've seen other examples in various collections. A
dealer had a 3-record version for sale at Union last month. The boxes are
printed, The Pardell Folding Box, and were evidently offered to dealers
Charles is definitely NOT an eBayer... if it doesn't crank and it isn't
mechanical, he doesn't have any use for it. Surprisingly, he does use a cell
phone.
I watch eBay regularly, but not every day and not for every item, so I must
have missed them.
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:29:01 -0700
Jim, I would not call the cardboard boxes common they are harder to find than
the Edison Standard Record boxes which I have seen about 50 of over the years.
The boxes drawn on the cardboard box itself are common. Out of 2000 boxes 6
were the standard record boxes in one random lot. Steve
I would appreciate the scan, no hurry. Your photo was very nice, much nicer
than the other one I have. I enjoy photos of things I will likely never see in
person.
From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 21:00:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison
I shall take my hat off to the other George and say I've not seen one with a
Concert machine printed on the side, but then again, he's much older than I
and has been collecting for far longer.
I also agree with George on the use of the words common and rare. The
way it's used is
3M Adhesive Remover, available at most NAPA stores will definitely remove any
gunk...
From: steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 20:51:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Frozen mandrel bearing
I would be interested in knowing if it was the oil or the pot
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