A good tip, thank you. The php cookbook just arrived today, and this
weekend I will be doing some cooking.
On 4/10/2012 4:22 PM, Govinda wrote:
Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of
opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you g
> Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of
> opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get
> several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the
> bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND BOOK! So that's a terrifi
On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Jason Pruim wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Kirk Bailey wrote:
>
>> Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of
>> opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get
>> several people chiming in
On Apr 8, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Kirk Bailey wrote:
> Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear consensus of
> opinion about what is the best book to use to learn php. Generally, you get
> several people chiming in talking about the website. Now the website is the
> bomb ind
Revisiting said dead horse, it's interesting there is no clear
consensus of opinion about what is the best book to use to learn
php. Generally, you get several people chiming in talking about the
website. Now the website is the bomb indeed, BUT IT'S NOT A BOUND
BOOK! So that's a terrific answe
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:19, Larry Garfield wrote:
> Hi folks. I'm not looking to write new PHP extensions per se, but am
> looking to better grok the guts of PHP itself. (That's a first step on the
> way to writing new extensions, though. Gateway drug!) I'm especially
> interested in the me
Hi folks. I'm not looking to write new PHP extensions per se, but am
looking to better grok the guts of PHP itself. (That's a first step on
the way to writing new extensions, though. Gateway drug!) I'm
especially interested in the memory/performance implications of various
techniques.
Are
Hi guys,
Do you know some good books about RESTful Web Services / API's using PHP?.
Also, if you know some website where I could find papers, pdf's and
articles about this topic would be useful, too.
I saw the documentation about this topics is not so easy to find.
Best,
Juan
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well
> > hot damn Learn something new everyday!
>
> Some programm
Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well
> > hot damn Learn something new everyday!
>
> Some programming books, such as guides to
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You mean that books are supposed to have stuff other then pictures? Well
> hot damn Learn something new everyday!
Some programming books, such as guides to Windows source code,
have pictures.
http://www.pi
On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:28 AM, news.php.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Which are the good books for learning php?
Try to choose one that has pages, some (if not all) of those
should contain words forming sentences, and particularly those f
http://marc.info/?w=2&r=1&s=php+books&q=t
http://search.gmane.org/?query=php+books&group=gmane.comp.php.general
http://www.google.com/search?q=php+books
http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/S/STFW.html
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On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:28 AM, David Powers wrote:
Jay Blanchard wrote:
If there was a best practices book would you buy it?
I write books on PHP aimed at the beginner/intermediate level, and
have a considerable collection of PHP books written by others. Two
relatively recent books that
> We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
> that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We
PHP, being server-side, is not difficult. I think the client-side stuff
deserves some books (DOM, Javascript, CSS, XHTML, XML, ) if
Jay Blanchard wrote:
If there was a best practices book would you buy it?
I write books on PHP aimed at the beginner/intermediate level, and have
a considerable collection of PHP books written by others. Two relatively
recent books that struck me as being important are "Pro PHP Securit
On Sun, August 12, 2007 8:52 pm, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
>
> We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
> that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We
> all have our pre
At 8:06 PM -0700 8/12/07, Janet Valade wrote:
Jay Blanchard wrote:
If there was a best practices book would you buy it?
I would buy it. But, I buy tons of books.
Janet
Same here.
In college, if I didn't have time to read something I Xeroxed it --
now I just buy the book. :-)
Cheers,
At 8:52 PM -0500 8/12/07, Jay Blanchard wrote:
Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We
all have our preferences for what we
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 20:52 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> If there was a best practices book would you buy it? (I am showing
> complete disregard for the thread on copyright infringement v. theft.)
> Or do you rely on other sources like this list, articles, etc to derive
> your own set of practice
Jay Blanchard wrote:
Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We
all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it see
jump at it as I feel I'm already
using "good enough practices".
On Sunday 12 August 2007, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
>
> We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
> that seems to be missing fro
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 20:52 -0500, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
>
> We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
> that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We
> all have ou
Evening all! (at least it is evening here in Texas)
We all have our favorite PHP books and resources but there is one tome
that seems to be missing from the group...a "best practices" book. We
all have our preferences for what we call best practices and it seems at
this stage in the l
> Can't please everyone all of the time. Maybe you
> didn't get the joke :B
> Certainly it had be ROFLMFAO.
Well..., to each his own :)
Have a nice day!
R
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- Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster!
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On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 04:29 -0700, Ryan A wrote:
> >
> > Some light humour:
> >
> > http://www.unm.edu/~humanism/socvsjes.htm
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
>
>
> Hey,
>
> I usually find your humour postings pretty funny but
> didnt find that in the least bit funny... :(
Can't please everyone a
> > > Some light humour:
> > > http://www.unm.edu/~humanism/socvsjes.htm
> > I usually find your humour postings pretty funny but didnt find that
> > in the least bit funny... :(
> Can't please everyone all of the time. Maybe you didn't get the joke
:B
> Certainly it had be ROFLMFAO.
Holy cr
>
> Some light humour:
>
> http://www.unm.edu/~humanism/socvsjes.htm
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
Hey,
I usually find your humour postings pretty funny but
didnt find that in the least bit funny... :(
Cheers!
R
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- Creativity
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 14:29 -0700, Ryan A wrote:
> Hey!
>
> > > Sorry, couldnt resist, no offense meant ;)
> >
> > None taken. My beliefs are my beliefs and yours are
> > yours
>
> Yep, and what I said was in jest, and you took it in
> jest.End of discussion between us :)
>
> Am just replying t
At 9:21 AM -0500 7/31/07, Larry Garfield wrote:
Disclaimer: Yes, I was raised by a pair of college history professors. :-)
Ahhh, that explains it.
Cheers,
tedd
PS: I'm done.
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On 8/1/07, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry Garfield wrote:
> > If a plumber fixes your toilet, he gets paid once.
>
> A plumber came recently to fix our hot water system. It took him less
> than one hour. He got paid about $100.
>
> > If a writer writes a book, he gets paid n times,
Larry Garfield wrote:
If a plumber fixes your toilet, he gets paid once.
A plumber came recently to fix our hot water system. It took him less
than one hour. He got paid about $100.
If a writer writes a book, he gets paid n times, where n is a (hopefully for
him) ever-increasing number.
Hey!
> > Sorry, couldnt resist, no offense meant ;)
>
> None taken. My beliefs are my beliefs and yours are
> yours
Yep, and what I said was in jest, and you took it in
jest.End of discussion between us :)
Am just replying to anyone else who's reading this,
please lets not fork this into a god
Ryan A wrote:
Yes, but that's why it's called faith.
My point was that it makes no sense to try and prove
or demonstrate
anything using God because the existance of God
itself cannot be proven
or demonstrated.
Stut,
There will be a demonstration of god's existance in a
little while, plea
> >>You have a right to your belief, but that doesn't
> make your belief right.
> >
> >This works both ways.
>
> Oh yeah, well my dad can beat up your dad.
Well, get both your dads together coz my dad can beat
both of them up.
Reasoning, I'm pretty young compared to most of you
guys so my dad i
> > Yes, but that's why it's called faith.
>
> My point was that it makes no sense to try and prove
> or demonstrate
> anything using God because the existance of God
> itself cannot be proven
> or demonstrated.
Stut,
There will be a demonstration of god's existance in a
little while, pleas
--- Crayon Shin Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
>
> > The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
>
> I think you meant SELLING.
>
Actually to make things easier just lets add a "NOT"
eg:
The opposite of BUYING is NOT BUYING
Ok, I admit it, am bored and c
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 22:21, Larry Garfield wrote:
> "Commercial publication" didn't exist as a concept until after the
> invention of the printing press, which is when copyright was invented
> in order to protect the business of the publishers.
Presumably you're talking about Europe, because i
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 21:37, tedd wrote:
> Extortion? Are you saying that anyone who owes a copyright is
> obtaining money through force or threats? That sounds strange.
Wow, it seems you haven't heard of the RIAA and their racketeering.
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On Tuesday 31 July 2007, tedd wrote:
> At 7:28 PM -0500 7/30/07, Larry Garfield wrote:
> >On Monday 30 July 2007, tedd wrote:
> > > What about descendants of the author? When anyone dies, their
> >>
> >> descendants have a rightful claim on their parent's assets -- it been
> >> that way since th
At 1:50 PM +0100 7/31/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
Yes, but that's why it's called faith.
My point was that it makes no sense to try and prove or demonstrate
anything using God because the existance of God itself cannot be
proven or demonstrated.
-Stut
I wasn't trying to prove anything u
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 08:42 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 3:44 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 15:33 -0400, tedd wrote:
> >> At 8:23 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
> >> >tedd wrote:
> >> >>At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >> >>>Ownership is an illusi
At 7:28 PM -0500 7/30/07, Larry Garfield wrote:
On Monday 30 July 2007, tedd wrote:
> What about descendants of the author? When anyone dies, their
descendants have a rightful claim on their parent's assets -- it been
that way since the dawn of mankind. Do you think you know better than
the
tedd wrote:
At 8:53 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
> >Don't expect that only one living
> >entity can envision such a permutation.
Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine
the truth of that statement.
The phone was independently envisioned by two di
At 8:53 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
> >Don't expect that only one living
> >entity can envision such a permutation.
Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine
the truth of that statement.
The phone was independently envisioned by two distinct humans
At 3:44 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 15:33 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 8:23 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
>tedd wrote:
>>At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>>Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
>>>by the state (be
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 02:45, tedd wrote:
> Well, when I *use* my neighbor's car without his authorization it's
> called "stealing"
If your intention was not to keep the car on a permenant basis then you
would probably be prosecuted for joyriding rather than stealing.
> >How? Nobody is not bei
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 02:08, tedd wrote:
> No, if you want something that you don't have -- you have three
> choices: a) go without; b) BUY it; c) STEAL it.
Rubbish. You can borrow, lease, hire purchase, rent, and there are
probably other options as well.
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d its attachments and notify us immediately.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry Garfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 July 2007 10:28 AM
> > To: php-general@lists.php.net
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?
> >
From: Larry Garfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 July 2007 10:28 AM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Pirate PHP books online?
>
> On Monday 30 July 2007, tedd wrote:
>
> > Our entire legal system is built on allowing (granting per
On Monday 30 July 2007, tedd wrote:
> Our entire legal system is built on allowing (granting permission)
> certain actions and not allowing (not granting permission) other
> actions.
>
> You do not have permission to steal. And if someone has not granted
> you the permission to use their whatever
On 7/31/07, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 30 July 2007, David Powers wrote:
> > Larry Garfield wrote:
> > > copyright infringement is NOT "taking something
> > > without paying for it". Copyright infringement is duplicating "an
> > > expression of an idea that is fixed in a
On Monday 30 July 2007, David Powers wrote:
> Larry Garfield wrote:
> > copyright infringement is NOT "taking something
> > without paying for it". Copyright infringement is duplicating "an
> > expression of an idea that is fixed in a medium" without the permission
> > of the copyright holder. Mo
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 15:44 -0400, tedd wrote:
> > > >Don't expect that only one living
> > > >entity can envision such a permutation.
> >>
> >> Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine
> >> the truth of that statement.
> >
> >The phone was independently envisioned by
tedd wrote:
> >Don't expect that only one living
> >entity can envision such a permutation.
Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine
the truth of that statement.
The phone was independently envisioned by two distinct humans at the
same time. The same is true of
> >Don't expect that only one living
> >entity can envision such a permutation.
Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine
the truth of that statement.
The phone was independently envisioned by two distinct humans at the
same time. The same is true of calculus. So
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 15:33 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 8:23 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
> >tedd wrote:
> >>At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >>>Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
> >>>by the state (be it your own state or a victorious state that j
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 20:35 +0100, Stut wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 20:23 +0100, Stut wrote:
> >> tedd wrote:
> >>> At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
> by the state (be it
Robert Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 20:23 +0100, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
by the state (be it your own state or a victorious state that just
subjugated your previous
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 20:23 +0100, Stut wrote:
> tedd wrote:
> > At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >> Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
> >> by the state (be it your own state or a victorious state that just
> >> subjugated your previous state).
At 8:23 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
by the state (be it your own state or a victorious state that just
subjugated your previous state).
But illusion all we hav
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 15:06 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:08 -0400, tedd wrote:
> >> At 12:50 AM +0800 7/31/07, Crayon Shin Chan
> >
> > "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and
> > unto God the things that
At 7:37 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
I think you meant SELLING.
I think he meant alternative not opposite. I'd laugh for years if
someone tried to defend the position that stealing is the
tedd wrote:
At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime
by the state (be it your own state or a victorious state that just
subjugated your previous state).
But illusion all we have. There is no truth in perception.
T
At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:08 -0400, tedd wrote:
At 12:50 AM +0800 7/31/07, Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
>On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
>
>> The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
>
>I think you meant SELLING.
>
>--
>Crayon
Crayon:
At 5:43 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
Copyright exists to prevent unauthorised *usage* of material. It
does not exist to prevent the unauthorised taking of instances of
that material - that's what the laws regarding theft are for.
Well, when I *use* my neighbor's car without his authorization
At 5:46 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
But, the importance here is one of euphemism.
Calling the act of stealing something more palatable, such as
copyright infringement, simply makes it easier to do.
Conversely, calling the act of copyright infringement something
less palatable,
tedd wrote:
At 5:46 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
But, the importance here is one of euphemism.
Calling the act of stealing something more palatable, such as
copyright infringement, simply makes it easier to do.
Conversely, calling the act of copyright infringement something les
Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
I think you meant SELLING.
I think he meant alternative not opposite. I'd laugh for years if
someone tried to defend the position that stealing is the opposite of
buying. Then I'd send the
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:08 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 12:50 AM +0800 7/31/07, Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
> >On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
> >
> >> The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
> >
> >I think you meant SELLING.
> >
> >--
> >Crayon
>
> Crayon:
>
> No, if you want something that you do
with this
ridiculous, unhelpful, off-topic nonsense."
Regards,
Carlton Whitehead
- Original Message -
From: "tedd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Crayon Shin Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:08:51 PM (GMT-0500) Ame
At 12:50 AM +0800 7/31/07, Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
I think you meant SELLING.
--
Crayon
Crayon:
No, if you want something that you don't have -- you have three
choices: a) go without; b) BUY it; c) STEAL it.
On Monday 30 July 2007 23:49, tedd wrote:
> The opposite of BUYING is STEALING
I think you meant SELLING.
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At 3:14 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
This conversation is getting pointless guys. The argument being had
is about whether copyright infringement should be called stealing or
theft. Personally I don't believe it should, but going back and
forth on a public mailing list is not going to do anyone
tedd wrote:
But, the importance here is one of euphemism.
Calling the act of stealing something more palatable, such as copyright
infringement, simply makes it easier to do.
Conversely, calling the act of copyright infringement something less
palatable, such as stealing, simply makes it hard
tedd wrote:
At 8:50 PM -0500 7/29/07, Larry Garfield wrote:
If copyright infringement were "taking something without paying for
it", then
anyone who's ever installed PHP is guilty of copyright infringement
unless
they sent Rasmus a check. That is, of course, nonsense.
No, it's not nonsense
Stut wrote:
This conversation is getting pointless guys.
I agree that it's going round in circles, and is best left alone.
* Nobody thinks copyright infringement is a good thing and nobody is
denying that it causes harm to every layer of the commercial chain that
exists to create and publish
At 8:50 PM -0500 7/29/07, Larry Garfield wrote:
You can call whatever you want anything you want, but that doesn't make it
true. For instance, no, copyright infringement is NOT "taking something
without paying for it". Copyright infringement is duplicating "an expression
of an idea that is fixe
David Powers wrote:
When somebody distributes copies of my eBooks to others, they break the
terms of the licence. They also deprive me of income, as do bit torrent
sites that assist in that distribution. It might not be stealing in a
strict legal sense, but it results in financial harm to me. S
Larry Garfield wrote:
copyright infringement is NOT "taking something
without paying for it". Copyright infringement is duplicating "an expression
of an idea that is fixed in a medium" without the permission of the copyright
holder. Money doesn't enter into it.
If the licence under which th
On Sunday 29 July 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 29/07/07, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) Something can be illegal without it being theft. The idea that "if
> > it's not theft then it must be OK" is the bullshit argument that I am
> > pointing out as bullshit.
>
> That's a valid p
Really, I had expected more mature commentary from the adults on this list.
So did I. I expect adults to display morality and values.
Really? Have you hung out with many computer geeks?
Oh..wait..morality..I thought you said maturity. Pardon me. :)
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On 29/07/07, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) Something can be illegal without it being theft. The idea that "if it's
> not theft then it must be OK" is the bullshit argument that I am pointing out
> as bullshit.
That's a valid point, but you are playing lawyer's games. "It's not
th
On Fri, July 27, 2007 6:28 pm, Larry Garfield wrote:
> On Friday 27 July 2007, Richard Lynch wrote:
> If "indirectly affecting the market so that prices change" counts as
> stealing,
> then Coke and Pepsi build their business models around stealing from
> each
> other.
>
> Apache/PHP/MySQL are then
On Saturday 28 July 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 28/07/07, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >On 28/07/07, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> If "indirectly affecting the market so that prices change" counts
> > >>as stealing,
> > >> then Coke and Pepsi build their business model
On 28/07/07, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 28/07/07, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> If "indirectly affecting the market so that prices change" counts
> >>as stealing,
> >> then Coke and Pepsi build their business models around stealing from each
> >> other.
> >>
> >> Apa
On 28/07/07, Larry Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If "indirectly affecting the market so that prices change" counts as stealing,
> then Coke and Pepsi build their business models around stealing from each
> other.
>
> Apache/PHP/MySQL are then "stealing actual money" from Microsoft, because
On Friday 27 July 2007, Richard Lynch wrote:
> > Understood. I simply want to lay to rest the idea that piracy is
> > "somehow OK" because it's getting back at the big boys, who "can
> > afford
> > it anyway". Piracy also hits hard-working individuals, to whom the
> > loss
> > of income usually do
Hey,
> They simply jack up the price for honest folk.
>
> You're only stealing, yes, Larry, actual money :-),
> from hard-working
> individuals who pay MORE for their legit copy when
> you pirate.
>
> That is the end effect.
>
> That is why it really IS theft.
Since this has been done to death
On 27/07/07, David Robley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Of course, one should not forgot Debbie Does DocType...
> >
> I guess that would have an opening scene with dialog something like:
>
> "I hope you don't mind me sharing memory while you are processing an array"
> as the processor flicks g
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 24/07/07, Ryan A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Php Fiction? Rasmus's List? Codin' in the Rain?
>>
>> LOL! That was good! Thanks needed that!
>>
>>
>
> Of course, one should not forgot Debbie Does DocType...
>
> Dotan Cohen
>
Now you owe me a new keyboard that isn't
On 27/07/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Piracy does not hurt the big boys in the least bit.
>
> They simply jack up the price for honest folk.
>
> You're only stealing, yes, Larry, actual money :-), from hard-working
> individuals who pay MORE for their legit copy when you pirate.
On Wed, July 25, 2007 5:15 am, David Powers wrote:
> Richard Lynch wrote:
>> At no point did I intend to sound unsympathetic to your plight!
>>
>> I only wanted to make it clear that 99.9% of musicians are in
>> the
>> same boat with you, despite what you read in the newspapers.
>
> Understood.
On Mon, July 23, 2007 4:41 am, Sancar Saran wrote:
> Those publishers ripping the authors then they blame the pirates...
>
> Real steal was %95 of book prices
Do feel free to start your own publishing company and print up some
books at prices you consider more fair.
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On Mon, July 23, 2007 6:00 am, David Powers wrote:
> The Harry Potter books have sold an estimated 325 million copies. Even
> if the author gets only 10 cents a book, that adds up to $32.5
> million.
> I'm sure she gets a lot more than 10 cents a book, but it's the number
> of books sold that makes
On 7/26/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Man-wai Chang wrote:
> You could open a sample book in bookstores, scan the chapters to
> decide whether you are gonna buy it.
Not even slightly relevant, but it made me think of this (seemingly
neverending) thread.
http://xkcd.com/294/
-Stut
Haha
Man-wai Chang wrote:
You could open a sample book in bookstores, scan the chapters to
decide whether you are gonna buy it.
Not even slightly relevant, but it made me think of this (seemingly
neverending) thread.
http://xkcd.com/294/
-Stut
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On 7/26/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/26/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/26/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > > You could open a sample book in bookstores, scan the chapters to
> > > decide whether you are gonna buy it.
> >
> > Not e
On 7/26/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/26/07, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > You could open a sample book in bookstores, scan the chapters to
> > decide whether you are gonna buy it.
>
> Not even slightly relevant, but it made me think of this (seemingly
>
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