On Tuesday 28 January 2014 12:06:27 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 11:50:34 Martin Klapetek wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
What we should consider when using such a numbering scheme is that it
also
works with beta
On Saturday 01 February 2014 15:19:57 Michael Jansen wrote:
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 12:06:27 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 11:50:34 Martin Klapetek wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org
wrote:
What we should consider when using
And as already discussed using the date of the final release in
pre-releases is dangerous.
Whatever you guys decide to use. It would be nice if it would be
compatible
to
http://semver.org/
This is the only attempt to standardize versions i know of. And remember.
I
On Saturday, February 01, 2014 19:33:31 Michael Jansen wrote:
And as already discussed using the date of the final release in
pre-releases is dangerous.
Whatever you guys decide to use. It would be nice if it would be
compatible to
http://semver.org/
This is the only
On Monday 27 January 2014 21:45:48 Daniel Nicoletti wrote:
2014-01-27 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org:
El Dilluns, 27 de gener de 2014, a les 15:05:43, Jos Poortvliet va
escriure:
I recall seeing -x often as distro-package-versions, so 2014.06.2 might
be
better. Then the fourth packaging
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
What we should consider when using such a numbering scheme is that it also
works with beta releases of Plasma Next. If we kind of stick to what we use
today it could be.
2014.06-90 for the beta release of Plasma Next
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 11:50:34 Martin Klapetek wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
What we should consider when using such a numbering scheme is that it also
works with beta releases of Plasma Next. If we kind of stick to what we
use
today
Am Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2014, 11:36:12 schrieb Martin Klapetek:
Given that we're dropping the name KDE from the working desktop almost
completely and changing it for Plasma (so you'll no longer run KDE on
your PC but you'll run Plasma) I hope this will prevent that.
Nothing will be
Am Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014, 18:24:08 schrieb Martin Klapetek:
Let me give a different example from the same area - do you remember
Windows Longhorn? Everyone was talking about Longhorn always and how
revolutionary and new it will be...and then, Windows Vista came out. From
the very same
On Monday 27 January 2014 14:37:03 Martin Klapetek wrote:
Hey all,
I've processed the discussion in the previous thread, we discussed it a bit
in today's Plasma Monday hangout and here is a reiteration of the naming
proposal. Please please /always/ keep plasma-devel in CC, if not, I'll
hunt
On Monday, January 27, 2014 15:05:43 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
* Inside Plasma team, we'll start referring to the next version simply as
Plasma Next. This will always be the next major version to be
released.
We encourage everyone to start using Plasma Next, we don't want this to
be
On Monday 27 January 2014 15:14:46 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 15:05:43 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
* Inside Plasma team, we'll start referring to the next version simply
as
Plasma Next. This will always be the next major version to be
released.
We encourage
On Monday, January 27, 2014 15:30:09 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
I remember several cases where we had issues which were not large enough to
stop the rolling of all of KDE SC, but there were certainly enough issues
which should have stopped a Plasma release. So I do hope that we use this
chance of
El Dilluns, 27 de gener de 2014, a les 15:05:43, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
On Monday 27 January 2014 14:37:03 Martin Klapetek wrote:
Hey all,
I've processed the discussion in the previous thread, we discussed it a
bit
in today's Plasma Monday hangout and here is a reiteration of the
2014-01-27 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org:
El Dilluns, 27 de gener de 2014, a les 15:05:43, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
I recall seeing -x often as distro-package-versions, so 2014.06.2 might be
better. Then the fourth packaging of 2014.06.2 will be 2014.06.2-4.
Just after reading the email
On Thursday, 23. January 2014. 1.13.05 Markus Slopianka wrote:
August 2014 Update of the May
2014 release of Plasma by KDE is not easy.
We already stated that it will not be Month1 update to Month2 Year ... but
Second update to ...
Cheerio,
Ivan
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Mark Gaiser mark...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this comparison is fair and I had it already written in my reply
to
Markus (removed it as I don't like referring to the competition). Btw.
how do
you know that it cost Microsoft billions? AFAIK normal users
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Markus Slopianka kamika...@gmx.de wrote:
All you achieve with such a hard to comprehend version number is that
people
will call it KDE5.
Given that we're dropping the name KDE from the working desktop almost
completely and changing it for Plasma (so you'll no
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Markus Slopianka kamika...@gmx.de wrote:
Apparently our own guys are confused by the whole situation and that's even
before any public announcement of throwing even more confusing date-based
version numbers into the mix.
The media, btw, also reads Planet
Yet again: We already stated that it will *not* be Month1 update to Plasma
Month2 Year ... but Second update to ...
Cheerio,
Ivan
On 23 January 2014 14:46, Markus Slopianka kamika...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2014, 11:36:12 schrieb Martin Klapetek:
Given that we're dropping
Am Freitag, 17. Januar 2014, 18:37:27 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
It seems we mostly agree on the Plasma Year Month, and Plasma by KDE*
naming, at least in principle. Which is awesome.
Considering that we already released official announcements de facto using
Plasma (Workspaces) 2 as branding for
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 02:43:04 Markus Slopianka wrote:
Am Freitag, 17. Januar 2014, 18:37:27 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
It seems we mostly agree on the Plasma Year Month, and Plasma by KDE*
naming, at least in principle. Which is awesome.
Considering that we already released official
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Markus Slopianka kamika...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014, 10:56:02 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
We made it always quite clear that this is a working title
No, you didn't. *I* know that it was meant to be a working title but it was
not always made
Hi,
[please keep plasma-devel cq. kde-promo in CC:]
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 15:03:20 Markus Slopianka wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014, 10:56:02 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
We made it always quite clear that this is a working title
No, you didn't. *I* know that it was meant to be a
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
Hi,
[please keep plasma-devel cq. kde-promo in CC:]
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 15:03:20 Markus Slopianka wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014, 10:56:02 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
We made it always quite clear that this
On 01/22/2014 09:13 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
Hi,
[please keep plasma-devel cq. kde-promo in CC:]
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 15:03:20 Markus Slopianka wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014, 10:56:02 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
We made it always quite clear that this is a working title
No,
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Mark Gaiser mark...@gmail.com wrote:
It just shows that not everyone is happy with the initial proposal.
The next version of plasma has always been made public under the names:
- PW2
- Plasma Workpaces 2
- Plasma 2
Yes, we right now have Plasma 4.xx
We
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Martin Klapetek
martin.klape...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Mark Gaiser mark...@gmail.com wrote:
It just shows that not everyone is happy with the initial proposal.
The next version of plasma has always been made public under the names:
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 19:29:24 Mark Gaiser wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Martin Klapetek
martin.klape...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Mark Gaiser mark...@gmail.com wrote:
It just shows that not everyone is happy with the initial proposal.
The next
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 19:29:24 Mark Gaiser wrote:
Let me give a different example from the same area - do you remember
Windows Longhorn? Everyone was talking about Longhorn always and how
revolutionary and new it will be...and then, Windows Vista came out. From
the very same
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 19:29:24 Mark Gaiser wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Martin Klapetek
martin.klape...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Mark Gaiser mark...@gmail.com wrote:
It
Mark,
You
pointed out that not everybody is happy with this. That is fair and probably
true. But is it relevant? Consensus does not mean everybody agrees. It doesn't
even have to mean everybody is happy. That is simply not always possible in a
community. It means you're willing to step out of
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark,
You
pointed out that not everybody is happy with this. That is fair and probably
true. But is it relevant? Consensus does not mean everybody agrees. It doesn't
even have to mean everybody is happy. That is
Hi all,
thanks to Martin for providing the pointer. Please everyone keep both lists in
the CC. Replying to the thread makes it really difficult otherwise.
That's why I am not replying to any mail know.
I just want to add a few notes to the code name topic. First of all I think
that any
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 09.23:06 schrieb Martin Graesslin:
Hi all,
Morning Martin
Very good summary. Thx!
thanks to Martin for providing the pointer. Please everyone keep both lists
in the CC. Replying to the thread makes it really difficult otherwise.
That's why I am not replying to
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.orgwrote:
I just want to add a few notes to the code name topic. First of all I
think
that any comparison to Ubuntu and MacOS does not matter. Whether they are
successful or not cannot be reduced to the name at all.
Let me
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 20:18:17 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title for the next
version of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we
had about this died out without producing a clear result. We've gone over
these
On Friday 17 January 2014 22:08:36 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 20:18:17 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title for the next
version of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we
had about this died out
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.orgwrote:
It looks like the discussion split. There is no mail by Aaron on the plasma
mailing list. Could someone please forward the mails so that it is
possible to
follow the discussion and to add value to the discussion.
I would just like to respond to one point (and related) as the rest was
pretty covered by Ivan.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
Then again - you have Ubuntu (changing every 6 months), OS X and I
don’t
know what elseand using an animal (weird
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Martin Klapetek martin.klape...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.orgwrote:
It looks like the discussion split. There is no mail by Aaron on the
plasma
mailing list. Could someone please forward the mails so
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 20:02:05 Ivan Cukic wrote:
KDE releases the First/Second/Third Update to the October 2014 release of
Plasma
Yes please!
Same here. :)
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Marco Calignano
marco.calign...@gmail.com wrote:
Why do we have to start with A? I guess we can (at least for the first
release name) find the name of the fish that better represent the
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
- Version numbers seem confusing an not very expressive, these should
rather
be a technical detail (for example to group bugzilla entries)
Maybe a silly question: but who finds version numbers confusing?
The point
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 20:18:17 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title for the next
version of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we
had about this died out without producing a clear result. We've gone over
these
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 14:29:47 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Feedback to this proposal is very welcome, but please keep in mind that we
would like to move on with this question. It's highly subjective to
bike-shedding, and a decision is better than no decision.
Agreed. There's quite some
El Dimarts, 14 de gener de 2014, a les 21:07:57, Martin Graesslin va escriure:
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 20:34:15 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Dimarts, 14 de gener de 2014, a les 20:18:17, Sebastian Kügler va
escriure:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title
That certainly makes it clearer in my opinion. +1 here.
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote:
El Dimarts, 14 de gener de 2014, a les 21:07:57, Martin Graesslin va escriure:
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 20:34:15 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Dimarts, 14 de gener
KDE releases the First/Second/Third Update to the October 2014 release of
Plasma
Yes please!
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El Dimarts, 14 de gener de 2014, a les 20:18:17, Sebastian Kügler va escriure:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title for the next
version of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we had
about this died out without producing a clear result. We've
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 20:34:15 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El Dimarts, 14 de gener de 2014, a les 20:18:17, Sebastian Kügler va
escriure:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title for the next
version of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we
On Tuesday 14 January 2014 21:07:57 Martin Graesslin wrote:
I.e. as a user may want to see if the new release i'm going to install is
a
bugfix release (i.e. i'm going from 4.12.0 to 4.12.1) or if it is a new
feature release (i.e. i'm going from 4.12.0 to 4.13.0).
KDE releases the
KDE releases the January Update to the October 2014 release of Plasma
October 2014, january update
This is a mouthful, and even more, quite confusing.
While I like the month/year idea (duh:)), this is kinda breaking the aims
we previously defined.
Cheerio,
Ivan
On 01/14/2014 11:18 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
Hey,
Until now, we've been using Plasma 2 as a working title for the next version
of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we had about this
died out without producing a clear result. We've gone over these points during
the
On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 15:41:27 Carl Symons wrote:
I like the marine animal/fish metaphor. Prolly don't need much promo
domain expertise to come up with the name.
I was thinking about domain expertise in the underwater department, and I'm
offering my help. :)
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