Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers
If you have a structure. A-C, B-C then you might actually want back functionality. Otherwise you have to create two copies of C (A-C1, B-C2) wasting bandwidth and space for what is essentially the same page. This makes no sense to me whatsoever. You don't need more than one copy of C

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread MJ Ray
Laurens M. Fridael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The Adobe SVG plug-in, for instance, is still way too heavy compared to Flash and there aren't enough good SVG authoring tools for designers, nothing that can compare with Flash MX, that is. [...] There's a conversation just started on [EMAIL

RE: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Blake Winton
If you have a structure. A-C, B-C then you might actually want back functionality. Otherwise you have to create two copies of C (A-C1, B-C2) This makes no sense to me whatsoever. You don't need more than one copy of C at all, just keep referencing C from wherever you call it. This is how

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Laurens M. Fridael
MJ Ray wrote: There's a conversation just started on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it seems that SVG may not be in a happy place for free software either, because of patents held on some of its core methods. Akin to the LZW patent used by GIF? I'll take a look. Please, get your hands dirty and start

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Laurens M. Fridael
Blake Winton wrote: What do you mean by a dedicated conduit? Plucker has had a (Win32) conduit for quite a while now. Where? Regards -Laurens ___ plucker-dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.rubberchicken.org/mailman/listinfo/plucker-dev

Win32 Plucker Conduit.

2002-11-19 Thread Blake Winton
What do you mean by a dedicated conduit? Plucker has had a (Win32) conduit for quite a while now. Where? Right! That was harder to find than I would have hoped. (Google gave me nothing for Plucker conduit, so I had to go back through my saved email from the list to find it.) It's called

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread MJ Ray
Laurens M. Fridael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems that SVG may not be in a happy place for free software either, because of patents held on some of its core methods. Akin to the LZW patent used by GIF? I'll take a look. Actually, I think they're far more pervasive than that. With the GIF

Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread TIM CONSTANTINE
It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some serious advantages over this mailing list: - It would be searchable - It would be easier to jump into out of conversations - It would be easier to locate previous threads of discussion (history) phpBB would be good. Can

Re: PlkrData Alpha Up

2002-11-19 Thread Fringe Ryder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/02 02:29PM Since I haven't gotten any more feedback, I finished up icon functionality my way and have tossed her up on the web. http://kittycentral.net/Plucker/PlkrData.html snip Feedback would be very appreciated. -Tony McNamara At 03:09 PM

Re: PlkrData Alpha Up

2002-11-19 Thread TIM CONSTANTINE
I understand that, but if Plucker Desktop is invoking PlkrData, then it knows that something has changed and can just set ITSELF up. I guess what I'm calling for is for whoever is working on Plucker Desktop (sorry, I don't know who's who yet) to work with you to add your functionality to that

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Dave Maddock
What about writing a Plucker authoring guide, with guidelines specifying which parts of HTML are supported, how to achieve particular formatting, what to do and what not to do, etc.? Or is there such a thing already? I'm planning to write a reference for JPluck that explain how HTML is parsed,

Re: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers
It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some serious advantages over this mailing list: We've talked about this before. I've been wanting to create a nice search engine for the list(s) and FAQ and docs, and I have something very similar working on

Re: PlkrData Alpha Up

2002-11-19 Thread TIM CONSTANTINE
Oh, OK... Thanks... Looking forward to it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/02 03:45PM At 03:35 PM 11/19/2002 -0500, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote: I understand that, but if Plucker Desktop is invoking PlkrData, then it knows that something has changed and can just set ITSELF up. I guess what I'm calling

Re: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Yes, I know different mailing lists could be created, but the whole Plucker system needs to work together, and you may need to jump into and out of different conversations to do what it is that you want to do. As long as it works directly with the mailing lists, and does not obsolete

Re: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread Michael Nordström
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote: It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some serious advantages over this mailing list: As have already been pointed out the advantages are already available for the mailing list. If you started to use a differet system for

RE: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread Blake Winton
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote: It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some serious advantages over this mailing list: As have already been pointed out the advantages are already available for the mailing list. Not all of the advantages. If I

Re: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread Fringe Ryder
At 10:37 PM 11/19/2002 +0100, Michael Nordström wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, TIM CONSTANTINE wrote: It seems to me that a Bulletin Board for communication would have some serious advantages over this mailing list: As have already been pointed out the advantages are already available for the

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Robert O'Connor
On 19 Nov 2002 at 11:12, David A. Desrosiers wrote: Ugh, the worst of the offenders. There are no forms on the Onion's website, yet they still need to rely on this pods://avantgo/back syntax? Useless. On that page, _ALL_ articles reference index.html, and to all articles, index.html is

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Laurens M. Fridael
Robert O'Connor wrote: On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote: complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or even a consideration. I would tend to differ on that point. You're quoting out of context! I already had a lengthy discussion with David about this. I'm not going

Re: VFS Best Practice

2002-11-19 Thread Robert O'Connor
On 25 Oct 2002 at 10:35, Wayne A. Arthurton wrote: What are people doing to install your Plucker DBs to a memory card w/o having to manually change the location on each one? I'm considering making all my DBs start with pkr e.g. pkrSlashDot and then have in script run a move all DBs that

Re: Back/foward/home function code

2002-11-19 Thread Fringe Ryder
At 10:53 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote: complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or even a consideration. I would tend to differ on that point. Over the next few years, Plucker is going to become the dominant force as

Non-HTML (was Re: Back/foward/home function code)

2002-11-19 Thread Robert O'Connor
On 19 Nov 2002 at 15:22, Fringe Ryder wrote: At 10:53 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote: complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or even a consideration. I would tend to differ on that point. Over the next few

Re: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread MJ Ray
Fringe Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find a mailing list nearly ideal. The only detriments to it are that the= odd message is flagged as spam by my filters and I haven't determined why,= You need to add the lists to your whitelist or scorefile. and that threads I care nothing about still

Re: Non-HTML (was Re: Back/foward/home function code)

2002-11-19 Thread Fringe Ryder
At 11:54 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: On 19 Nov 2002 at 15:22, Fringe Ryder wrote: At 10:53 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote: complying with W3C standards is hardly a priority or even a consideration. I

Re: Bulletin Board instead of Mailing List?

2002-11-19 Thread Fringe Ryder
At 12:17 AM 11/20/2002 +, MJ Ray wrote: Fringe Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find a mailing list nearly ideal. The only detriments to it are that the= odd message is flagged as spam by my filters and I haven't determined why,= You need to add the lists to your whitelist or scorefile.

Re: Non-HTML (was Re: Back/foward/home function code)

2002-11-19 Thread MJ Ray
Robert O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Others: maybe the marquee tag from MSIE 3.x days, and all the other non- standard crap that has come and gone over the years. Yes! We want blink in Plucker now! Seriously, has anyone who asks for support for standards-breaking actually thought the

Re: Non-HTML (was Re: Back/foward/home function code)

2002-11-19 Thread Robert O'Connor
On 19 Nov 2002 at 16:37, Fringe Ryder wrote: At 11:54 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: On 19 Nov 2002 at 15:22, Fringe Ryder wrote: At 10:53 PM 11/19/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: On 18 Nov 2002 at 21:43, Laurens M. Fridael wrote: complying with W3C standards is

Re: Non-HTML (was Re: Back/foward/home function code)

2002-11-19 Thread Robert O'Connor
On 20 Nov 2002 at 0:55, MJ Ray wrote: Robert O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Others: maybe the marquee tag from MSIE 3.x days, and all the other non- standard crap that has come and gone over the years. Yes! We want blink in Plucker now! I enjoyed the Python comment next to the

Re: Non-HTML (was Re: Back/foward/home function code)

2002-11-19 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Yes! We want blink in Plucker now! I enjoyed the Python comment next to the 'blink' on the list of currently unimplemented tags in the Parser (TextParser.py, around line 855). Props to whoever wrote that in. Appears to be Ondrej back in Parser.py, almost to the day 11/22/99.

Re: PlkrData Alpha Up

2002-11-19 Thread Robert O'Connor
On 19 Nov 2002 at 11:29, Fringe Ryder wrote: Since I haven't gotten any more feedback, I finished up icon functionality my way and have tossed her up on the web. http://kittycentral.net/Plucker/PlkrData.html Both sources and a Windows binary are there. All the basics work -

Re: PlkrData Alpha Up

2002-11-19 Thread Fringe Ryder
At 02:01 AM 11/20/2002 +, Robert O'Connor wrote: Looking through, I think it is very nicely done. Great work! Thanks. For exclusion lists, this has come up before with regards to how to package these with descriptions of sites, since that is arguably the most important part, as it is