I hope this is appropriate ... but I wanted to let other pluggers know about
the upcoming Eclipse Demo Camp. This is a free event and IMO of great interest
to our local opensource community.
The demo camp is a series of talks given by local Eclipse contributors. In a
couple of hours, you can g
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:47 -0700, Larry Brigman wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, MJang wrote:
> >
> > So the packages you see in CentOS are generally some short number of
> > weeks behind. If there's a critical update, you should be able to pull
> > the source code packages from ftp.red
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:04:40 -0700
Rogan Creswick dijo:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:56 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >
> > So I went into System > Control Center > Startup Applications and added
> > Metacity and Gnome Panel. Then I restarted the computer. When I logged
> > in everything was bac
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:56 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
> So I went into System > Control Center > Startup Applications and added
> Metacity and Gnome Panel. Then I restarted the computer. When I logged
> in everything was back to normal.
Well, you fixed a symptom.
> I think it's fixed. Howe
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:06:44 -0700
drew wymore dijo:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > After I launched my mail client (Sylpheed) I quickly discovered that it
> > popped up on top of the panel, which nothing used to be able to do.
> > Worse, I can't drag it around w
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:22:36 -0700
> John Jason Jordan dijo:
>
> > Right now I am thrilled to report that Gnome-do did the job. I am
> > happily writing this in Gnome with my panel and everything apparently
> > working as before the upgr
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:44:37 -0700
> From: John Jason Jordan
> Reply-To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;civil and on-topic"
>
> To: plug@lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Dragging is good
>
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:22:36
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:22:36 -0700
John Jason Jordan dijo:
> Right now I am thrilled to report that Gnome-do did the job. I am
> happily writing this in Gnome with my panel and everything apparently
> working as before the upgrade to Jaunty.
Ack! The boy spoke too soon. :(
After I launched my m
I wonder if your jjj user is missing the gnome panel applet in the
startup thing for gnome. Now that you have the panel you can look at
applications that are set to start up when the user logs in. Also
blowing away the old .gnome and .gnome2 directories in jjj's home
directory might yield more info
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Failed to get the session bus: dbus-launch failed autolaunch D-BUS
Uh-oh! You missed de bus.
> And to those who suggested right-clicking on the root window, bear in mind
> that there are no windows on the display at all, root or otherwise. It's
Galen Seitz wrote:
> John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> Does anyone know any other secret way to get a terminal window open
>> besides Alt-F2?
>
> Try right clicking while the cursor is on the root window. With gnome
> under CentOS 5.3, that brings up a menu, and one of the menu items is
> 'Open Termi
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:12:37 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Pruett dijo:
> give up on gnome-terminal and use xterm. it's not as fancy, but doesnt
> rely on all the rest of gnome running. obviously you have some startup
> problem, so you might want to check your x logs (not sure exactly where
> ubuntu puts
John Jason Jordan wrote:
> And to those who suggested right-clicking on the root window, bear in
> mind that there are no windows on the display at all, root or
> otherwise. It's just a completely blank screen showing my wallpaper. I
> did try right-clicking and other clickety things, but nada. The
give up on gnome-terminal and use xterm. it's not as fancy, but doesnt
rely on all the rest of gnome running. obviously you have some startup
problem, so you might want to check your x logs (not sure exactly where
ubuntu puts them).
probably /var/log/Xorg.0.log, unless it changed between hardy
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 15:12, Joe Pruett wrote:
> give up on gnome-terminal and use xterm. it's not as fancy, but doesnt
> rely on all the rest of gnome running. obviously you have some startup
> problem, so you might want to check your x logs (not sure exactly where
> ubuntu puts them).
proba
give up on gnome-terminal and use xterm. it's not as fancy, but doesnt
rely on all the rest of gnome running. obviously you have some startup
problem, so you might want to check your x logs (not sure exactly where
ubuntu puts them).
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:52:11 -0700
Aaron Jorbin dijo:
> this might be a bit of over the top, but have you tried installing
> gnome-do and using that to open a terminal?
Tried that, and suggestions from Joe, Heath and Aaron. The problem is
not yet resolved, but I have different error messages tha
this might be a bit of over the top, but have you tried installing
gnome-do and using that to open a terminal?
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know any other secret way to get a terminal window open
>> beside
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:37, William Olson wrote:
> So, if I use:
>
> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main universe
> restricted multiverse
> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main universe
> restricted multiverse
> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, MJang wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 10:20 -0700, Michael wrote:
>
>> When is RHEL required? When support checks for it while examining the system
>> in the course of a support call. I am told if they find CentOS rather than
>> RHEL they will refuse to provide su
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Does anyone know any other secret way to get a terminal window open
> besides Alt-F2?
Can you restart the panel manually? Does a right-click on the root window
bring up a menu from which you can open a terminal? I don't know Gnome, but
this bring
>
> Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael"
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Updating To: "General
> Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic"
> Message-ID:
> <25655.170.135.241.46.1240595489.squir...@mail.jamhome.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=is
John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
> Does anyone know any other secret way to get a terminal window open
> besides Alt-F2?
Try right clicking while the cursor is on the root window. With gnome
under CentOS 5.3, that brings up a menu, and one of the menu items is
'Open Terminal'. If that doesn't work,
> The problem is that I can't get a terminal open in the GUI. Alt-F2 does
> nothing. I can get to the command line with Ctrl-Alt-F1, but when I
> give it the command 'gnome-panel &' it just announces "Cannot open
> display." Of course it can't, 'cause I'm not in the GUI.
>
> I need to get a termina
Hi,
I don't know the solution to your overall problem, but I can give you
some small advice about terminals.
Use the following command to tell your console terminal where your display is,
export DISPLAY=":0.0"
That's the magic env-var that your xterms are using to pop things up
on your displa
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:33:18 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard dijo:
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
> > I still can't get Gnome to run properly. Actually, it comes up fine and my
> > custom screen background looks the same as it did before. It's just the
> > panel that is missing. And
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Michael wrote:
> You can do an in place upgrade. They should have stomped all the bugs by now.
>
> Note: I did not take this route when I figured out what was going on last
> night at 9:30. But I will within the next week and I can let you know how it
> worked out.
A cou
> The most attractive aspect of SL is that it has very long term
> support; FermiLabs is still providing package updates for
> installations running SL3 ( RHEL3). Some very big compute
> jobs run on superclusters for years - they don't stop them
> to upgrade distros. The down side is that you do
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 10:20 -0700, Michael wrote:
> When is RHEL required? When support checks for it while examining the system
> in the course of a support call. I am told if they find CentOS rather than
> RHEL they will refuse to provide support.
Yup, there is one package that provides links
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:24, William Olson wrote:
> I've also missed the EOL for Gutsy. Is there anything I can do other
> than a clean install of 8.10 or 9.04?
yup. check out my mail in the original thread for replacement lines
for your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
however, no *new* update
William Olson wrote:
> I've also missed the EOL for Gutsy. Is there anything I can do other
> than a clean install of 8.10 or 9.04?
You can do an in place upgrade. They should have stomped all the bugs by now.
Note: I did not take this route when I figured out what was going on last
night at
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:47:24AM -0700, Daniel Herrington wrote:
> All,
>
> In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a free
> version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do you have to do anything
> special with CentOS to get software that only installs on RHEL5
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
> Daniel Herrington wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a free
>> version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do you have to do anything
>> special with CentOS to get software that only
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> I still can't get Gnome to run properly. Actually, it comes up fine and my
> custom screen background looks the same as it did before. It's just the
> panel that is missing. And Alt-F2 won't open a terminal. However, I can
> get to the command line w
>
> Message: 7 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:58:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael"
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Jaunty upgrade To: "General
> Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic"
> Message-ID:
> <29956.170.135.241.45.1240592329.squir...@mail.jamhome.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso
Galen Seitz wrote:
>> In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a free
>> version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do you have to do anything
>> special with CentOS to get software that only installs on RHEL5 to install
>> on CentOS?
>
> Not in my experience.
On Fri, April 24, 2009 10:06, Ali Corbin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Herrington
> wrote:
>> Next question is, does anyone know of a SUSE SLES comparable/
>>
>
> Nope.
> At least there wasn't a de-branded distro of SLES when I was looking
> for one a year ago.
> Ali
>
The cl
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:58, Michael wrote:
>
> John Jason Jordan wrote:
>> Don't.
>>
>> OK, I have never used KDE before. But I am now poking at it because it's all
>> I
>> can get working. Maybe y'all KDE dudes and dudettes can convince me to keep
>> it. If Gnome won't run, to hell with it, e
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:19:11 -0700
John Jason Jordan dijo:
> I am sending this from a KDE desktop, because my Gnome desktop won't start. I
> get my desktop background, but no Gnome panel. Kind of hard to run
> applications when you have no panel. And Alt-F2 fails to launch a terminal.
> Luckil
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Herrington
wrote:
> Next question is, does anyone know of a SUSE SLES comparable/
>
Nope.
At least there wasn't a de-branded distro of SLES when I was looking
for one a year ago.
Ali
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John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Don't.
>
> OK, I have never used KDE before. But I am now poking at it because it's all I
> can get working. Maybe y'all KDE dudes and dudettes can convince me to keep
> it. If Gnome won't run, to hell with it, eh?
>
> Meantime, the dist-upgrade to Jaunty is a pile of pr
Next question is, does anyone know of a SUSE SLES comparable/
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
> Daniel Herrington wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a
> free
> > version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do yo
Daniel Herrington wrote:
> All,
>
> In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a free
> version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do you have to do anything
> special with CentOS to get software that only installs on RHEL5 to install
> on CentOS?
Not in my exper
> In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a free
> version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do you have to do anything
> special with CentOS to get software that only installs on RHEL5 to install
> on CentOS?
>
> We do a lot of testing on 1 RHEL4 vmware image,
John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:38:18 -0700
> Russell Senior dijo:
>
>> Why, monitor manufacturers? For the love of the flying spaghetti
>> monster, WHY?
>
> Movies
And cost.
Demand for the 16:9 aspect ratio means more production means more cost
efficiency means cheaper panel
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Ali Corbin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Heath Morrison
> wrote:
>> If you really need to get a fresher package into CentOS, the easiest thing
>> to do is to grab the package from the Fedora repository.
>>
>> -Heath
>
> There is also EPEL ( http://fed
All,
In the thread on CentOS someone indicated that the OS is as close to a free
version of RHEL5 as one can get. My question is, do you have to do anything
special with CentOS to get software that only installs on RHEL5 to install
on CentOS?
We do a lot of testing on 1 RHEL4 vmware image, and
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Heath Morrison wrote:
> If you really need to get a fresher package into CentOS, the easiest thing
> to do is to grab the package from the Fedora repository.
>
> -Heath
There is also EPEL ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL ), who
repackage fedora packages for rh
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> "Wes" from the list (w...@the-wes.com) was going to be riding to
> LinuxFest with me on Friday, leaving at 2pm. He may not be
> getting my email. Does anybody have realworld contact info for him?
>
> Sorry to bother the list - this is ki
Helpful hints to preserve a previous environment
Tar the /home/ directory. That will safeguard
your .evolution, Seamonkey and Thunderbid mailboxes, preserve your
Firefox/Seamonkey settings, any programs/scripts you wrote and put into
your own bin directory, your aliases, .bashrc and .profile sta
If you really need to get a fresher package into CentOS, the easiest thing
to do is to grab the package from the Fedora repository.
-Heath
On Apr 23, 2009 11:47 PM, "Michael Robinson"
wrote:
Anyone run this on CentOS 5.3? Secret Maryo Chronicles doesn't
work either because the blankety blank M
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Michael Robinson
wrote:
> Anyone run this on CentOS 5.3? Secret Maryo Chronicles doesn't
> work either because the blankety blank Mesa is too old. Sheesh ;-)
>
> I download Mesa-7.4.1 source and try to compile it, no go
> because it can't find libdrm.
>
> Okay,
MJang wrote:
>
> One thing I do to deal with the upgrade cycle is have a separate
> partition for my /home directory.
Oh, yes. In fact, the old-timers on this list will remember the early
days of Unix, you know, when they had manuals and one was required to
read them, that multiple filesystem
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 06:01 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
> Each time I read this I ask why it should be necessary to
> scrape off all the old paint before putting on a new coat.
>
>It seems to me that the distribution creators should know how to clean up
> and remove conflicting packages during
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Nye Walker wrote:
> Safety. Many linux users customize their software, tweak their configs,
> and like things that way. From what I've seen a linux "upgrade" doesn't
> wipe out much, thus leaves conflicting services and configurations.
Nye,
This is a people problem that h
I presuming you really meant "upgrade". As opposed tor fresh install. My
advice: don't upgrade. Install fresh . I have had problems upgrading to
Hardy and Intrepid. Once I installed a fresh system, 95% of therm
vanished.
The only problems I have had so far with a fresh Jaunty install were
gett
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> I don't mean to be critisizing or
> contentious, but would like to understand why, at this stage of linux
> maturity, upgrades can cause problems fixed by a clean install.
>
Safety. Many linux users customize their software, tweak their con
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, David Kaplan wrote:
> I had dist-upgrade problems with Ubuntu in the past. I only do clean
> installs these days. The new Ubuntu 9.04 has been the smoothest install
> and configuring I've had. I tried Kubuntu, and I still think KDE 4.2 needs
> work. I'll happier with Gnome and
I had dist-upgrade problems with Ubuntu in the past. I only do clean
installs these days. The new Ubuntu 9.04 has been the smoothest install and
configuring I've had. I tried Kubuntu, and I still think KDE 4.2 needs work.
I'll happier with Gnome and Xfce.
John, do a clean install of Ubuntu 9.04 an
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:07 PM, m0gely wrote:
> Demand? Also, a 20" or 22" screen can show two 8.5x11 documents side by
> side and read easily without scrolling. For coding some screens can be
> rotated 90 deg.
Has anyone on here spent substantial time working with text (coding,
ideally) on a r
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