Re: [PLUG] [OT ? ?? ???] Linux and computer literacy

2018-06-18 Thread Russell Senior
> "Richard" == Richard Owlett writes: Richard> For IDIOSYNCRATIC and weird local constraints I am working on Richard> networking *TWO* computers via a "USB MASTER-USB MASTER" Richard> cable. There are "cookbook"{sic/sick}" for "normal"(sic) users Richard> with ethernet. One important thing t

Re: [PLUG] [OT ? ?? ???] Linux and computer literacy

2018-06-18 Thread Richard Owlett
When I asked "Can anyone point me to a "library like" resource recognizing that Micro$oft has competition?", I thought there would so few examples I never considered a web search. My bad ;{ Did a DuckDuckGo search and received pages of hits. Thanks. On 06/17/2018 09:20 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote

Re: [PLUG] [OT ? ?? ???] Linux and computer literacy

2018-06-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote: "Richard" == Richard Owlett writes: Richard> For IDIOSYNCRATIC and weird local constraints I am working on Richard> networking *TWO* computers via a "USB MASTER-USB MASTER" Richard> cable. There are "cookbook"{sic/sick}" for "normal"(sic) users Ric

Re: [PLUG] Quick question on linux man page coverage

2018-06-18 Thread Tomas K
Did you check if you could install some of the missing man/manuals you care about? Not all man pages are selected for default install. on my opensuse 42.3: installed: sudo zypper search man | awk '$1 !~ /^i/ && $2 ~ /(^|-)(man|manual)$/ {print} $1 ~ /^i/ && $3 ~ /(^|-)(man|manual)$/ {print}' | gre

Re: [PLUG] [OT ? ?? ???] Linux and computer literacy

2018-06-18 Thread Tomas K
On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 20:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/17/2018 05:50 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote: > > Oh... I guess I only answered one question... > > > > > > > To the second question: When you want to do something that no one > > else has ever done, FTFY: or nobody seems to be interest

Re: [PLUG] [OT ? ?? ???] Linux and computer literacy

2018-06-18 Thread Russell Senior
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 2:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote: > >> "Richard" == Richard Owlett writes: >>> >> >> Richard> For IDIOSYNCRATIC and weird local constraints I am working on >> Richard> networking *TWO* computers via a "USB MASTER-USB MA

Re: [PLUG] Quick question on linux man page coverage

2018-06-18 Thread Russell Senior
Ubuntu has "oneko" still. I recall xfishtank from the first X11 install I ever did, on an early SLS install of Linux. In similar-era news, I just set up bsdgames on a Raspberry Pi with mgetty, and some dialup modems to deploy at ToorCamp later this week, so that other people in their tents can di

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Louis Kowolowski
What requirements are leading to the physical space? As others have suggested, you may be able to use a VM, which could be much cheaper ($5/10/mo perhaps). If you do need space for a physical machine, that doesn't sound too unreasonable (depending on where you're looking, you may be able to find

Re: [PLUG] [OT ? ?? ???] Linux and computer literacy

2018-06-18 Thread Galen Seitz
On 06/18/2018 02:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote: > That said, consider the following questions as you begin your quest: You say "networking".  Can you define what you mean by that word? A LAN with only two computers at a time. You say "USB Master

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Michael Rasmussen
To stress "As others have suggested, you may be able to use a VM" - at my final job before retirement (Large bank, Fortune 500, etc) everything possible was migrated to in-house VMs. I want to say mail services were an early migration. In any case, the entire mail infrastructure was run on virtu

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Louis Kowolowski
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > > To stress "As others have suggested, you may be able to use a VM" - at my > final job before retirement (Large bank, Fortune 500, etc) everything > possible was migrated to in-house VMs. > I want to say mail services were an early m

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I have heard that security versus physical HW in colo argument so many times. In my opinion, a padlock is way less secure than well implemented crypto. The only security benefit I see from physical HW would be hosting it on premises - if your threat vector is suponea. Both VM or HW in colo can be

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Louis Kowolowski
On Jun 18, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > > I have heard that security versus physical HW in colo argument so many > times. > > In my opinion, a padlock is way less secure than well implemented crypto. > Depends on your threat vector :-) Also, "well implemented crypto" seems to be a s

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Daniel Johnson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 1:50 PM Tomas Kuchta wrote: > I have heard that security versus physical HW in colo argument so many > times. > > In my opinion, a padlock is way less secure than well implemented crypto. > > The only security benefit I see from physical HW would be hosting it on > premises

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Ben Koenig
Running a physical server has advantages in all areas. Randall didn't actually mention his use case. Does anyone know of any such services in the area? It could be anything from security, government regulations, performance, and even education. Don't assume you know what he is looking for without

Re: [PLUG] looking for secure space for a mail server

2018-06-18 Thread Daniel Johnson
You can just split the cost with other people. $17.54 a U. Might go up if you put in enough equipment to need custom power or something. On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 3:05 PM Ben Koenig wrote: > Running a physical server has advantages in all areas. Randall didn't > actually mention his use case. Does