Re: Arduino projects

2014-07-26 Thread Von Fugal
Sorry I know this is an old thread but I have a veritable queue of projects I want to do with arduino/atmegas. * sous vide cooking - I already have this done to a functional stage, working on UI now. * Sprinkler control - gee it sure is hot today, better give the lawn a little extra water

Re: Arduino projects

2014-07-26 Thread Von Fugal
: Re: Arduino projects On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:08:35 -0600 Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: * Sprinkler control - gee it sure is hot today, better give the lawn a little extra water tonight, don't have to wait till the optimal time or until I get home, by which time I'll probably have

Re: Arduino projects

2014-07-26 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Charles Curley date=Sat, 26 Jul 2014 at 11:53 -0600 On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:13:22 -0600 (MDT) plug.mailing-list plug.mailing-l...@iqinbox.com wrote: If you use moisture sensors, then you won't need to water the lawn on a time based schedule. The sprinklers will simply turn on

Re: Python's 20th Birthday (well, public release birthday) Extravaganza Lunch Party!

2011-02-22 Thread Von Fugal
[2]. Heh, I thought I'd share a cake update. We're going to need some help eating it. :) Didn't make the party, but I would still be more than happy to help eat cake if that's still a problem in need of attention. :) -- Von Fugal pgpSfCpDXhVYM.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG

Re: silly question about acrobat reader

2011-02-08 Thread Von Fugal
to use evince? -- Von Fugal pgpj4DEmeYxvu.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: silly question about acrobat reader

2011-02-08 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Nicholas Leippe date=Tue, 8 Feb 2011 at 12:20 -0700 (It's not scrolling a 1/2 page--it's scrolling 1/2 line--and the whole page is still displayed either way--it's just moving the margin or something.) Ahhh, well that is *far* more annoying. -- Von Fugal pgpL9IxhQd2Ap.pgp

Re: Internet connection

2011-01-24 Thread Von Fugal
and configuration while in the broken state. -- Von Fugal pgptly27qjiia.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Free Antivirus

2011-01-06 Thread Von Fugal
kind of system this would be for, family or enterprise... but I think it *is* a great service to point out the caveats of WGA and using an antivirus that requires it. So whoever it was, kudos and thank you. -- Von Fugal pgp3UN7A6aFNA.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org

Re: Internet connection

2010-12-31 Thread Von Fugal
I probably would have reinstalled. I still might have if I had the storage lying around to backup my home dir. -- Von Fugal signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: How to optimize a RAM-only (swapless) system?

2010-12-23 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=John McCabe-Dansted date=Thu, 23 Dec 2010 at 15:50 +0800 On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: It really should sit as an in-between swap and memory place. Recently swapped pages should go straight to compcache, evicting pages if necessary *from

Re: How to optimize a RAM-only (swapless) system?

2010-12-22 Thread Von Fugal
compcache and regular disk swap. -- Von Fugal pgpJsZgqjZD0Z.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: How to optimize a RAM-only (swapless) system?

2010-12-22 Thread Von Fugal
the data on the disk would at least marginally speed up access time to that swapped data. One area compcache is already useful is in LiveCDs, for example it is used by Ubuntu to reduce the amount of memory need to install from the LiveCD. Yes, very cool! -- Von Fugal pgpbk1CuXYVjx.pgp Description

Re: Bind9 or DNSMasq

2010-12-21 Thread Von Fugal
does some kind of zoning. I certainly recommend it for any local or home network. I'd have to do some looking into it before recommending it for anything large. -- Von Fugal pgpVQS53aCE4T.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http

Re: Gitting Backwards

2010-12-20 Thread Von Fugal
list tags with git tag -l. -- Von Fugal pgp1TOT7rqsbH.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Gitting Backwards

2010-12-20 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Charles Curley date=Mon, 20 Dec 2010 at 10:13 -0700 On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:22:24 -0700 Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: quote name=Charles Curley date=Sat, 18 Dec 2010 at 21:57 -0700 It will do. Thanks There are also often tags that will denote a particular version

Re: Gitting Backwards

2010-12-20 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Charles Curley date=Mon, 20 Dec 2010 at 12:54 -0700 On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:59:41 -0700 Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: Well, technically (as per the instruction in the thread) you're not creating a branch, though you could do that. What you end up with when checking out

Re: Gitting Backwards

2010-12-20 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Von Fugal date=Mon, 20 Dec 2010 at 10:59 -0700 quote name=Charles Curley date=Mon, 20 Dec 2010 at 10:13 -0700 On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:22:24 -0700 Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: quote name=Charles Curley date=Sat, 18 Dec 2010 at 21:57 -0700 It will do. Thanks

Re: Gitting Backwards

2010-12-20 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Von Fugal date=Mon, 20 Dec 2010 at 14:22 -0700 My sincere apologies. I reviewed the original suggestion and it *did* include a -b my-new-branch in the instructions. So in fact a new branch was being created, I just missed it. In fact the checkout could be done without creating

Re: Streamlining RSS subscriptions and previews for Google Reader

2010-12-13 Thread Von Fugal
, but that doesn't help you much with multiple feeds on a page... -- Von Fugal pgpHp41UQojGL.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: echo -e '\a' fails on Ubuntu 10.10

2010-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
and xterminals, so you got me there. I've already disable pulse and done some other strange things on this laptop, so I'm not highly motivated to find my beep. Von Fugal -- Von Fugal pgpiDGZ0TPOCp.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http

Re: echo -e '\a' fails on Ubuntu 10.10

2010-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Charles Curley date=Mon, 6 Dec 2010 at 09:33 -0700 On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:46:19 -0700 Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: Are you sure there's nothing in alsa? Both my laptops have a Beep slider in alsamixer, all the way to the right side. It likes to be all the way down

Re: Obligitory Christmas Geek Wish List Thread

2010-12-03 Thread Von Fugal
be in some more obscure format, is there a format understood by the kindle into which I might convert any ebook/html/pdf, which also has tools available in linux to (reliably) do so? -- Von Fugal pgpHkbIf5cuyM.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net

Re: Internet

2010-12-03 Thread Von Fugal
putting it in drinking water, in any way, including calling any dissenter loony, then please, for the love of God, _DO_ look into it! -- Von Fugal pgpcdgSGtFAz4.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug

Re: Internet

2010-11-17 Thread Von Fugal
because of all the terrible things Jack Bauer has done. Jack Bauer eats terrorist babies. -- Von Fugal pgp0uj70vY049.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 13:51 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 13:49 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: Of course, you can say that now. You can say that to an individual. But when there's a critical mass of such people who feel such a way? Then what? Then they start winning

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 14:12 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:10 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: It takes a majority to win elections. It only takes a fraction of people getting really mad to do a lot of damage. You're seriously threatening to use violence to impose

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 14:27 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:25 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: No, I'm merely pointing it out as a possibility. I would not wish violence and upheaval on any society. Gee, it sure would a shame is something happened to your nice democracy

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
that are reasonable and amicable to the populace such that you don't infuriate too large a number of them. -- Von Fugal pgpAe3kQLYyBT.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
or marching to the sea to make his own salt. You consider that damaging? Heaven forbid anyone should be self sufficient!! -- Von Fugal pgpd8CwqvPBFE.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Von Fugal date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 14:43 -0700 quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 14:39 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:33 -0700, Jessie Morris wrote: Violence and damage are two very different things. It does not always require violence to cause damage. I

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 14:57 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:43 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 14:39 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 14:33 -0700, Jessie Morris wrote: Violence and damage are two very different things

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
brings up certain facts about smart grid, he is also nutty about flouridation, and ALSO, he somehow thinks that flouride is in everything else besides just water. I really don't follow your logic, and your ad-hominem/straw-man mixture smells to high heaven. -- Von Fugal pgpe9KjxQ111j.pgp Description

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
it effects on the way) instead of just teeth, topically? -- Von Fugal pgpFVI0iDC6Ud.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
? -- Von Fugal /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Internet

2010-11-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 13:45 -0700 On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 13:36 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: But if you piss too many people off, with too much infraction and largess, then they leave the social contract. Isn't it better to try and keep the contract manageable

Re: Internet

2010-11-15 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Kimball Larsen date=Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 21:38 -0700 On Nov 12, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Von Fugal wrote: As the aforementioned webserver guy (idiot to some) I'd like to point out that I DID specifically ask about port 80 as one of my first questions to the salesman in the store as well

Re: Internet

2010-11-12 Thread Von Fugal
what they block, then pay someone else, like XMission. -- Von Fugal pgpZO1QExnhdA.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Internet

2010-11-12 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Von Fugal date=Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 13:03 -0700 quote name=Corey Edwards date=Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 12:56 -0700 All this talk of restricting makes me think of the winning strategy Ma Bell has employed. We'll see how well that works. I suggest that companies would be far more

Re: Internet

2010-11-12 Thread Von Fugal
Oh now you come off it, stewart! quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 13:21 -0700 On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 13:03 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: Oh, I don't know, because they PROVIDE the SERVICE?? If you don't like what they block, then pay someone else, like XMission. You know

Re: Internet

2010-11-12 Thread Von Fugal
regulations to keep the service running smoothly. FOUL! You cry! We regulate THEM! How dare they regulate US!! Come off it! -- Von Fugal pgpamWcTJbvck.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear

Re: Internet

2010-11-12 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 13:33 -0700 I do have one bone to pick though... My name is included with every message and it isn't Stewart. D'oh! I knew that. Must have forgotten in all the excitement and elevated blood pressure. My apologies, Stuart. -- Von Fugal

Re: anybody get a chance to read this

2010-11-12 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Merrill Oveson date=Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 17:00 -0700 http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695226688,00.html I would love that job. :) -- Von Fugal pgpUQz5BhM0mJ.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman

Internet

2010-11-11 Thread Von Fugal
for these plans or from who. Who is linux friendly? etc. So, any suggestions? -- Von Fugal pgpI7i4mwldWk.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Internet

2010-11-11 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Matthew Walker date=Thu, 11 Nov 2010 at 09:33 -0700 On Thu, November 11, 2010 9:29 am, Daniel C. wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: So, any suggestions? You're in SLC and Xmission isn't an option? This isn't a suggestion since you're

Re: Internet

2010-11-11 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Doran L. Barton date=Thu, 11 Nov 2010 at 09:31 -0700 Not long ago, Von Fugal proclaimed... So, I was thinking. There are other internet options out there these days, wireless providers now have home internet plans, there's wimax, etc. Problem is, I don't know where to look

Re: scripting languages

2010-11-08 Thread Von Fugal
get me wrong, but the fanboi hordes that have loitered the community are much like those pertaining to the Tea Party. Both are extremely unfortunate and are to be avoided. -- Von Fugal pgp8OETqJYkYG.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe

Re: scripting languages

2010-11-08 Thread Von Fugal
because you already broke the rule. You didn't avoid the fanboi. Seriously, though, I've given up on the tea party. That fundamentally good idea has been driven out of it. -- Von Fugal pgpfYA6dx4N0U.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe

Is there a plug meeting this week?

2010-10-10 Thread Von Fugal
Just curious, the website doesn't say anything about a plug meeting, but the second Wednesday is fast approaching. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah

Re: kubuntu + ati radeon X1650

2010-10-06 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Von Fugal date=Tue, 5 Oct 2010 at 15:59 -0600 quote name=Charles Curley date=Tue, 5 Oct 2010 at 11:42 -0600 Having no xorg.conf is not unusual with recent versions of X; they'd like to get rid of it entirely. There's also a conf dir you can add stuff to. Xorg now searches

Re: kubuntu + ati radeon X1650

2010-10-05 Thread Von Fugal
be good to go. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Ribbon connectors

2010-09-29 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Jessie A. Morris date=Wed, 29 Sep 2010 at 10:27 -0600 (Sorry for the top post. My phone's client top posts). And destroys the in-reply-to header, apparently. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah

Re: Ribbon connectors

2010-09-29 Thread Von Fugal
). Google says it may now be: Jpl Computer Services JPL used to be Mas Computers. No idea of that was computer recyclers before that, but... I vageuly recall that 'recyclers' may have been part of their name. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre

Re: Ribbon connectors

2010-09-28 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Steven Alligood date=Tue, 28 Sep 2010 at 09:12 -0600 On 09/27/2010 11:59 PM, Doran L. Barton wrote: On Monday, September 27, 2010 10:49:08 am Von Fugal wrote: I have a blown up car stereo and a working antique cabinet stereo. The antique does phono, tape, cd, radio, so needless

Re: Ribbon connectors

2010-09-28 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Stuart Jansen date=Tue, 28 Sep 2010 at 10:25 -0600 On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 10:22 -0600, Von Fugal wrote: You guys just don't get it. Some of us get it, we just don't know where to find the cable since we don't share the same passion. Fair enough, though you guys referred to those

Ribbon connectors

2010-09-27 Thread Von Fugal
? Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: UTOS Keysigning Party

2010-09-21 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Aaron Toponce date=Sun, 19 Sep 2010 at 09:11 -0600 Required Items? 1. Physical attendance. 2. Positive government-issued picture ID. What does 'positive' mean? Does that exclude police mugshots? Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure

Re: UTOS Keysigning Party

2010-09-21 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Aaron Toponce date=Tue, 21 Sep 2010 at 09:52 -0600 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:49:12AM -0600, Von Fugal wrote: quote name=Aaron Toponce date=Sun, 19 Sep 2010 at 09:11 -0600 Required Items? 1. Physical attendance. 2. Positive government-issued picture ID

Re: JOB: Linux System Administrator

2010-09-17 Thread Von Fugal
-issue also complain about HTML email and Flash and PHP. Count me an uber-nerd then. And who doesn't complain about HTML email?! Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah

Re: Virtues of trimming -- was Re: JOB: Linux System Administrator

2010-09-17 Thread Von Fugal
to that little branch. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: JOB: Linux System Administrator

2010-09-17 Thread Von Fugal
a little thought and effort into your contribution to the list. Sure, there are lists who don't care or who prefer the wrong way, so keep that in mind, too. ;) Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG

Re: (un)professional e-mail skills -- was Re: JOB: Linux System Administrator

2010-09-17 Thread Von Fugal
, not universal ones, or they would actually *be* universal rather than adopted by only a tiny minority. At least you have the sense to degrade us to our faces. ;) Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: (un)professional e-mail skills -- was Re: JOB: Linux System Administrator

2010-09-17 Thread Von Fugal
at the top. Maybe the problem is the editor. Vim sure makes it super easy to trim things. ;) And even makes it easy to wrap at 72 characters, as was mentioned elsewhere. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: (un)professional e-mail skills -- was Re: JOB: Linux System Administrator

2010-09-17 Thread Von Fugal
reply email, and stick the cursor at the top. Yet you'd be hard pressed to find a mutt user that doesn't trim. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options

Re: samba hide shares

2010-09-14 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Levi Pearson date=Tue, 14 Sep 2010 at 12:01 -0600 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: You seem to have snipped my first paragraph, in which I explain why arguing against a first rule of security standing by itself is pointless, as such phrases do

Re: samba hide shares

2010-09-13 Thread Von Fugal
by obscurity it is often called, and it's almost a derogatory term. If you want to add obscurity as one final layer on top of a well thought out and implemented security strategy, then go for it, but to call it the first rule is just folly. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own

Re: samba hide shares

2010-09-13 Thread Von Fugal
just need to run smbpasswd -a user for each user. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear

Re: samba hide shares

2010-09-13 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Levi Pearson date=Mon, 13 Sep 2010 at 20:27 -0600 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Von Fugal v...@fugal.net wrote: quote name=Merrill Oveson date=Mon, 13 Sep 2010 at 11:50 -0600 yeah, they can't get in - that is if they click on it, they're prompted for user name and password

Debian-CentOS

2010-08-30 Thread Von Fugal
sheet I can study? This is for sysadmin stuff, btw. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear

Re: Debian-CentOS

2010-08-30 Thread Von Fugal
o . . o o o :) Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Certification

2010-08-25 Thread Von Fugal
and SANS, anyone care to comment on those? Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear

Re: 1080p over component

2010-08-17 Thread Von Fugal
. Oh well. Von Fugal /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: 1080p over component

2010-08-16 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Levi Pearson date=Tue, 3 Aug 2010 at 16:10 -0600 In fact, from my research the ICT isn't supposed to cause audio downgrade. There's also a Digital Only token, which completely shuts off analog output, but I don't think anyone's planning on using that. --Levi My understanding

Re: Yes, we have no hibernate today

2010-06-28 Thread Von Fugal
think there would be a problem with hybernating on a crypted swap, it is the initrd that sets up the encryption layer, is it not? Sounds like you might need to do a non-random key though. Von Fugal -- Don't believe everything you think. signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http

Re: Yes, we have no hibernate today

2010-06-28 Thread Von Fugal
, and then recovers the swap from last time you shut down... no, it won't be clean!! I really don't know how it works though, so I'd be interested if someone can shed some light on it. New random encryption key on cryptswap for each boot would be the way it should be. Von Fugal -- Don't believe everything you think

Re: Graceful Shutdown of USB drives.

2010-06-04 Thread Von Fugal
Just a thought, but maybe the difference with Safely remove drive (besides that it spins down) is that it unmounts all filesystems on the device, making it safe to remove the device as a whole, rather than unmounting what may or may not be the last FS left mounted on the device. Von Fugal

Re: Net Neutrality Is Marxist?

2010-05-15 Thread Von Fugal
Shane++ Von Fugal -- Don't believe everything you think. signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Net Neutrality Is Marxist?

2010-05-15 Thread Von Fugal
in current law, better yet in the simplest laws of all that we have had since common law. That way we can simplify the process, and instead of burdenning everyone with countless, inefficient and impossible to grok (in aggregate) laws, we can live by well established principles. Von Fugal

Re: What gets you out to a PLUG meeting?

2008-12-13 Thread Von Fugal
. (Unless you count sjansen as a big name presenter) Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Andy Bradford date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 22:02 -0700 Thus said Von Fugal on Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:12:03 MST: It's true, to say that a pie in 1933 was worth this much gold, and now we have this many pies, there's not enough gold. The truth is each pie would be worth LESS gold

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
something for someone else. I am a slave and I have no freedom. Von Fugal -- The three great rights are so bound together as to be essentially one right. To give a man his life, but deny him his liberty, is to take from him all that makes his life worth living. To give him his liberty, but take

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Andy Bradford date=Fri, 5 Dec 2008 at 22:33 -0700 Thus said Von Fugal on Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:39:14 MST: I feel that inflation is inevitable in many respects. Well distributed, limited inflation is acceptable and manageable. Are you talking about monetary

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
economies plunged into the Great Depression of the 1930's. Now again in 2008 we're trying to keep that credit flowing... sound familiar?? Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
. I couldn't find a current price. ;) Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-06 Thread Von Fugal
that doesn't mesh with theory? I object to reality and substitute my own! Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
against using a commodity like gold as money? Or more to the point, if that class of goods really was that important then people would pay the price for it. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
about keeping up with inflation. Why does there have to be inflation for people to keep up with? Why would no inflation be detrimental? You can say how you deal with inflation, and that only 'some' people will be hurt by it, but that's still not an argument FOR it. Von Fugal -- Government

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
otherwise benefit us all so greatly that there truly would be no poor among us. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Daniel C. date=Fri, 5 Dec 2008 at 11:55 -0500 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Von Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You opponents of gold talk about how fiat helps poverty, now here you're contempting the poor and saying we don't have to be fair to them! You talk about keeping up

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
other cause is decreased production. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Nicholas Leippe date=Fri, 5 Dec 2008 at 11:20 -0700 On Friday 05 December 2008 10:58:33 am Von Fugal wrote: However, you're forgetting, that with a static currency supply, the per capita purchasing power has now decreased inversely proportional to the increase in capita

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Daniel C. date=Fri, 5 Dec 2008 at 13:35 -0500 On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Von Fugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, a proponent for inflation then. Then by necessity you must oppose gold. And I guess your reasons for proposing inflation are different then some others have

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-05 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Nicholas Leippe date=Fri, 5 Dec 2008 at 11:48 -0700 On Friday 05 December 2008 11:25:00 am Von Fugal wrote: Obama is still going to buy a yacht. He's just going to do so on a smaller budget. You're solving the amount of inflation, but not the distribution problem

Re: Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Michael Torrie date=Wed, 3 Dec 2008 at 23:08 -0700 Von Fugal wrote: Come get your ameros! The amero conspiracy theory is one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time. I laughed. More on conspiracy theory below. And in regards to your other commend about the falling

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Michael Torrie date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 10:18 -0700 Von Fugal wrote: What about the european union? Because Amero sounds like Euro? Nobody said the Amero had anything to do with the Euro, besides maybe a clever naming gimmick. But as you point out, the Amero is nothing like

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Nicholas Leippe date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 10:46 -0700 On Thursday 04 December 2008 10:25:00 am Von Fugal wrote: I don't want to drag this out, (and I do think we should return to a gold standard). No no no. We do not want a gold standard. Not unless you want severely worse

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
. Von Fugal wrote: I don't want to drag this out, (and I do think we should return to a gold standard) but I was merely stating facts and not really making a case for the gold standard. One 1933 dollar would be worth about 14 dollars today by the most conservative estimates. Some say as high

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Kyle Waters date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 11:18 -0700 Von Fugal wrote: Gold doesn't rust. And when industry needs gold, they can pay market price for it. That is, trade a pie or whatever, or maybe they could just use some of the gold they sell their product for, and include

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
, defined as 1/1000 of a foo. A gold standard is not without problems, but let's be honest here. Von Fugal -- Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure -- Robert Lefevre signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Nicholas Leippe date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 12:54 -0700 On Thursday 04 December 2008 11:12:03 am Von Fugal wrote: quote name=Michael Torrie date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 10:54 -0700 I am oversimplifying a lot in all these points, but I can't stand by and let the equally oversimplified

Re: [OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

2008-12-04 Thread Von Fugal
quote name=Michael Torrie date=Thu, 4 Dec 2008 at 12:56 -0700 Von Fugal wrote: All this reminds me of Hitchhiker's Guide where the Golgafrinchams land on prehistoric earth and try to start a civilization. After debating the color of the wheel, whether fire should be fitted nasally, and so

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