Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3, AlienBBC & Squeezebox 1

2008-12-18 Thread ncameron
I do have LAME; but if it's still of interest I have the following settings in RTSP Settings: FLAC - mplayer/flac MP3 - mlayer/lame WAV - mplayer For the avoidance of doubt, AlienBBC works fine with my Squeezebox 2 and with SofSqueeze... -- ncameron -

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3, AlienBBC & Squeezebox 1

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Can you test with only RTSP->MP3 enabled (i.e disable RTSP->WAV and RTSP->FLAC) ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sqeezecenter 7.3 + Inguz are Compatible?

2008-12-18 Thread magiapa
I had changed the plugins.pm with this line: flc flc * $CLIENTID$ [flac] -dcs --totally-silent -- $FILE$ | [$CONVAPP$] -id "$CLIENTID$" -wav -wavo -d 24 | [flac] -cs -0 --totally-silent - but I still have the same problem: the songs going to play but no sound exit by the SB3.What's wrong? PS

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: AlienBBC 2.4a2 for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread Ramage
Triode;371743 Wrote: > According to the download stats there have been a reasonable number of > downloads of the 7.3 version via extension downloader > (http://code.google.com/p/alienbbc/downloads/list) > > Does anyone have any feedback on how well this worked? > > I've got a minor update pendi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: AlienBBC 2.4a2 for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Ramage, Back in 6.x I think you wanted bitrate limiting with AlienBBC - I think it now works with 7.3 with AlienBBC and 2.04. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: htt

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: AlienBBC 2.4a2 for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread Ramage
bpa;372463 Wrote: > Ramage, > Back in 6.x I think you wanted bitrate limiting with AlienBBC - I think > it now works with 7.3 with AlienBBC and 2.04. Blimey! I'll have to scratch my head a bit to remember why I needed that. I think it actually was to bit limit converted AAC+ streams, when I ha

[SlimDevices: Plugins] LazySearch2 and autorescan not showing up in extension downloader

2008-12-18 Thread Chasman666
I can't seem to get Stuart's repository to work - is there something I should know? Others are fine. Any thoughts? Cheers, Charlie (SC 7.3, winXP on Asus eeePC 901, SB3) -- Chasman666 Chasman666's Profile: http://forums.s

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: AlienBBC 2.4a2 for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
I think bit rate limiting also work with AACplus as well. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56292 _

[SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread auronthas
Hi, I just got my new iMac recently, i have installed Mac OS SC and it works fine. Currently reformating my external hard disc to FAT32 from previous NTFS format, hope it works. Now my question is how to migrate my Trackstat from Windows platform (Vista) to Mac OS? Previously my external HDD i

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?

2008-12-18 Thread esbrewer
I did see that note, and had been trying it without success. The stream would appear to start in the SC web interface but the horizontal bar would stop moving around 5-6 sec in. I did finally get it to work this AM by waiting longer in between presses and/or hitting the add to playlist button fi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LazySearch2 and autorescan not showing up in extension downloader

2008-12-18 Thread Stuart Hickinbottom
Are you sure you've note updated to a 7.4 nightly? The repository is marked as being for 7.3 only at the moment. It's currently working for me with 7.3. Stuart Chasman666 wrote: > I can't seem to get Stuart's repository to work - is there something I > should know? Others are fine. > Any thoug

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Moose 0.69 (win frontend)

2008-12-18 Thread Dr Lovegrove
2008/12/17 tamanaco : > > I just started testing Moose 0.69a using a HP TouchSmart tx2z Notebook I > received a few days ago. I found a few issues in View Mode-> Touch > Screen in Moose that "might" need fixing. > > 1.- Selecting Touch Screen under View Mode is not persistent. Actually this is by-

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Are you willing to pay for a Sirius Radio plug-in?

2008-12-18 Thread atlslim
GoCubs;372384 Wrote: > My local copy at home that I'm still working on redoes the protocol > handler and resolves this issue. It also brings back the > siriusradio://# functionality and also now pulls song title info for > the stream you're listening to directly from the stream (yeah!). Wow - a

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Moose 0.69 (win frontend)

2008-12-18 Thread tamanaco
DrLovegrove;372518 Wrote: > Actually this is by-design.. All 3 modes (touch, fullscreen and party) > are > non persistent mainly because for something like party you could get > stuck in it by mistake. > > If you want Moose to always run in touch-screen mode, add the > /touchscreen command lane

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LazySearch2 and autorescan not showing up in extension downloader

2008-12-18 Thread davep
hickinbottoms;372499 Wrote: > Are you sure you've note updated to a 7.4 nightly? The repository is > marked as being for 7.3 only at the moment. > > It's currently working for me with 7.3. > > Stuart > > I'm not seeing it either - I'm on 7.3.1. Should that work? davep -- davep -

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LazySearch2 and autorescan not showing up in extension downloader

2008-12-18 Thread Stuart Hickinbottom
Ah ha - I think that's it. I've marked the plugins in the repo as being compatible with "7.3+", which I expect will fix this. Stuart davep wrote: > hickinbottoms;372499 Wrote: > >> Are you sure you've note updated to a 7.4 nightly? The repository is >> marked as being for 7.3 only at the mome

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
The update to WaveInput for Squeezecenter 7.3 is ready and can be installed using the Extension Downloader (ED) a new feature of 7.3 which is accessed through Settings/Plugins/Extension Downloader/settings. Install instructions for WaveInput plugin are below following some explanation about the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SharkPlay plugin - radioSHARK player

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
The update to SharkPlay for Squeezecenter 7.3 is ready and can be installed using the Extension Downloader (ED) a new feature of 7.3 which is accessed through Settings/Plugins/Extension Downloader/settings. Install instructions for SharkPlay plugin are below following some explanation about the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: CDplayer plugin

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
The update to CDplayer for Squeezecenter 7.3 is ready and can be installed using the Extension Downloader (ED) a new feature of 7.3 which is accessed through Settings/Plugins/Extension Downloader/settings. Install instructions for CDplayer plugin are below following some explanation about the E

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: CDplayer plugin

2008-12-18 Thread Ramage
bpa;372578 Wrote: > The update to CDplayer for Squeezecenter 7.3 is ready and can be > installed using the Extension Downloader (ED) a new feature of 7.3 > which is accessed through Settings/Plugins/Extension > Downloader/settings. > > Install instructions for CDplayer plugin are below followi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: CDplayer plugin

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
I'll fix the Ubuntu "no cd in drive" bug (or at least put some safeguards in) shortly after Christmas and hopefully it will show up in ED. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View thi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: CDplayer plugin

2008-12-18 Thread Ramage
bpa;372588 Wrote: > I'll fix the Ubuntu "no cd in drive" bug (or at least put some > safeguards in) shortly after Christmas and hopefully it will show up in > ED. I didn't have that problem but the CD was run by default by another application. Stopping the application and clicking CDPlayer then

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SuperDateTime - Current Date/Temperature and/or Baseball Screensaver

2008-12-18 Thread morsejeff
If I understand correctly, the SuperDateTime plugin can be displayed on the Duet now. Greg, can you post a screenshot on your website? Or can someone post a screenshot here in this forum? I'm curious to see if the display is too small for the bedroom. -- morsejeff ---

[SlimDevices: Plugins] Can trackstat exclude play stats from one player?

2008-12-18 Thread MeSue
I'm thinking not, but figured I would ask. Here's why: I mainly listen to mixes, but my husband always listens to albums. I set my mixes to exclude tracks recently played. When my hubby finds something he likes, he listens to it over and over. If it happens to be something we both like, it means

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LazySearch2 and autorescan not showing up in extension downloader

2008-12-18 Thread Chasman666
Yup, that sorted it and yes I was using 7.3.1 - damn those pesky details! Cheers, Charlie -- Chasman666 Chasman666's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: CDplayer plugin

2008-12-18 Thread Bradley
bpa;372588 Wrote: > I'll fix the Ubuntu "no cd in drive" bug (or at least put some > safeguards in) shortly after Christmas and hopefully it will show up in > ED. bpa: I tried the plugin on Ubuntu 8.10 and got the "No CD in drive problem", although rhythmbox sees it and plays CDs fine. Here is

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread Skye
Excellent work bpa, many thanks! Used ED to install on two separate SC 7.3r installations, one on XP sp3 and one on WHS. Both went as smooth as you like and I'm now enjoying FD auditorium on Hot Bird as I type. Again, thanks for taking on this very useful plugin that had become a bit of an orpha

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Yellow Banana, While testing WaveInput for 7.3 - for a while I had the exact same symptoms as your bug. Unfortunately they went away before I tracked them down but they are related to the output of wavin2cmd not being read. I think they could be due to something blocking the socketwrapper app

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread Tirionvalar
Hello Bpa, thank you very much for the plugin update!!! Now It works fine...even better, because I don´t get that muffled sounds anymore. -- Tirionvalar Dave Squeezebox 3 Toshiba laptop Satellite s5200-903 Windows XP Home ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: CDplayer plugin

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
I have Ubuntu 8.10 test system and I can reproduce the error and so I know it can be fixed - it's just whether I have the time before Christmas. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 Vi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SharkPlay plugin - radioSHARK player

2008-12-18 Thread Bradley
Does RadioShark2 work with this plugin on a Linux Machine (Ubuntu 8.10)? Thanks. *Bradley -- Bradley Bradley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/s

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SharkPlay plugin - radioSHARK player

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Yes but usually the USB device is protected so you have to make the shark2 app in the SharlPlay/Bin privileged or make the USB devices writeable by all users. The instruction were are in the original forum post. such as chown root shark2 chmod +s shark2 -- bpa ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC plugin stops after around 75 minutes...

2008-12-18 Thread rossp
rossp;371572 Wrote: > I have repeat on - will try turning it off. > > I notice that it seems to happen more often if I have paused the music > - it will often restart after playing for a short wile after being > paused. turned repeat off - no difference. this happened before the upgrade to 7.3

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC plugin stops after around 75 minutes...

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Generally if you pause a radio stream (especially a live one) it will disconnect after a few minutes - so the "pause" issues is a separate and distinct disconnect cause. If a stream is left to play unhindered with no pauses - it then stops after X minutes. The streams can be stopped either by SC

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3, AlienBBC & Squeezebox 1

2008-12-18 Thread ncameron
No difference. (I pressed APPLY, should I have restarted Squeezecenter?) -- ncameron ncameron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread juniper
BPA - Apologies - I followed your instructions "to the letter". No Wave Input Plugin is displayed after I added the URL to the "additional Repositories". I deleted the existing Wave Input folder from plugins and rebooted even, before making the Settings changes. I must have done something wrong b

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3 Recommended 3rd Party Plugins

2008-12-18 Thread Triode
@Peter/Erland I tend to favor a single thread which is sticky for nomiating new plugins as then we can immediately see if there is new actvity on it and all users of the forum will know where to go to nominate something. I agree with Erland - want to keep this simiple as it will hopefully be rep

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread Yellow Banana
bpa;372616 Wrote: > Yellow Banana, > > While testing WaveInput for 7.3 - for a while I had the exact same > symptoms as your bug. Unfortunately they went away before I tracked > them down but they are related to the output of wavin2cmd not being > read. > > I think they could be due to someth

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread juniper
Antivir and just for the record Zone Alarm Pro (free deal for a year - still uncertain as to whether this is causing more pain than gain); Winpatrols Scotty prowls around in the background. Thanks for your interest - I prefer to try and solve this via the Extension Downloader than the previous st

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread Yellow Banana
bpa;372576 Wrote: > The update to WaveInput for Squeezecenter 7.3 is ready and can be > installed using the Extension Downloader (ED) a new feature of 7.3 > which is accessed through Settings/Plugins/Extension > Downloader/settings. > > Install instructions for WaveInput plugin are below follo

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread sc53
Shouldn't you reformat your hard disk to Mac-compatible format? Fat32 won't be recognized by your iMac. Go to Utilities/Disk Utility to do the formatting. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?u

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 7.3, AlienBBC & Squeezebox 1

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
The "apply" should be enough. Can you set logging player.source to INFO (Settings/Advanced/Logging) , then play a BBC stream. Can you examine the log (Setting/Information) and copy entries from the initial request to play BBC stream. -- bpa

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread juniper
I right click on the taskbar SC icon and choose the stop option. I now tend to reboot my computer at this point, as have had prior experience of stopping and restarting SC without a reboot, which sometimes appears to ignore the change. I have marked SC as a a windows start up process, thus it s

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
There is no indication of WaveInput is present on the main Web page. It can be seen in Settings/Pluigins and now Settings/Extensions Downloader. The WaveInput facility is used by creating a favorite withj an URL such as wavin:0 or wavin:1 and then playing that favorites. The number after the "w

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread Yellow Banana
juniper;372769 Wrote: > I right click on the taskbar SC icon and choose the stop option. I now > tend to reboot my computer at this point, as have had prior experience > of stopping and restarting SC without a reboot, which sometimes > appears to ignore the change. > > I have marked SC as a a

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Perhaps your SqueezeTray.exe has been corrupted or old version. Check which version of SqueezeTray.exe is running from Task Manager (i.e. path to executable) and the post details of the executable that is running. You should check your system startup files & registry settings as to which Squeeze

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread Yellow Banana
bpa;372781 Wrote: > Perhaps your SqueezeTray.exe has been corrupted or old version. > > Check which version of SqueezeTray.exe is running from Task Manager > (i.e. path to executable) and the post details of the executable that > is running. > > You should check your system startup files & regi

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
That image is way too small - can't you copy the details with cut & paste. Is the file date 12/11/2008 ? Is it 12-Nov or 11-Dec ? What version of SC are you running as Squeezetray would have to match for a good installation ? If it was a nightly what date ? Please do a bit of thinking about w

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread raglencross
Thanks, bpa. WaveInput works for me with the 7.3 release. Seems to be virtually no latency and sounds as good as the source material. Coupled with the convenience of using the Extension Downloader to install, the experience can only be described as "slick". I also took the opportunity to reins

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread juniper
I have entered the URL into Additional Repositories, there is no resulting reference to Waveinput in any Settings tab / drop down. There is still a reference to Waveinput in my favourites in SC, as there has been for a long time, this shows the URL as Wavin://1 and my speaker settings on the PC ar

[SlimDevices: Plugins] Help me save money on my server!

2008-12-18 Thread Gazjam
Currently running SC on my main PC which I use for work (3D). Quad core, 4GB hi end GFX card etc etc. It has an efficient(80+) PSU but it must be drawing 300odd watts! Thinking of the bills, I want to transfer the squeezebox duties to something less costly to run. Mega low budget here guys (in U

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread juniper
I must have missed a step or something happened elsewhere but it works. and it sounds very impressive, much better than before. I am using it to listen to the Blended channel on Accuradios Iceberg site. I recommend it. -- juniper Version: 7.3 - 24282 Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Perl Version:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Wave Input plugin v1.00

2008-12-18 Thread bpa
Off topic > > NPR plugin which also went smoothly. > There are a few bugs with NPRRAdio and 7.3 - one bug is definitely an SC problem, which prevent playing complete programs with multiple segment. This feature broke in 7.2. I am working on finding the problems. -- bpa

[SlimDevices: Plugins] AutoDisplay on 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread PRGeno
Hello Peter, I just upgraded from 7.01 to the released version of 7.3, putting your repo info into the new extensions page. One of the most critical plugins for my purposes is AutoDim Display so that I can dim the Squeezebox in the bedroom. The latest Autodisplay will not allow me to set the dim

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread auronthas
I was told MS-DOS FAT32 format can be read and recognized by iMAC, last night after reformating my external HDD, i copied some music files (.flac) and cover art then use SC to clear and rescan the HDD, it works perfectly, SC can play the files and show the album art. -- auronthas Auronthas Ta

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] LazySearch2 and autorescan not showing up in extension downloader

2008-12-18 Thread Stuart Hickinbottom
Good news - thanks for helping to fix it! Stuart Chasman666 wrote: > Yup, that sorted it and yes I was using 7.3.1 - damn those pesky > details! > > Cheers, > > Charlie > > > ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimd

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AutoDisplay on 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread peterw
Mea culpa. I broke that in 91p4. I just published 91p5 which seems to fix the problem. Sorry for the trouble. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket S

[SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader and no Internet Connection

2008-12-18 Thread Wirrunna
One of my Squeezeboxes is in a holiday shack with no Internet connection - the server is next to the TV and is connected via cat5 to a cheap wireless router/switch and the SB3 sits on the amp next to the fireplace. New music is added via usb external disk. I am about to upgrade this server to SC 7

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AutoDisplay on 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread PRGeno
Yep! That fixed it. Thanks for your support. -- PRGeno PRGeno's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56743 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Can trackstat exclude play stats from one player?

2008-12-18 Thread erland
It's not possible today. Making it possible to select what statistics to view would be a big change, but it might be possible to add an option so you can select that a specific player shouldn't store statistics. Would that solve your problem ? In that case, should it only make sure no statistics

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread erland
If you are using the latest TrackStat version on the iMac, it should be enough to take a TrackStat backup in TrackStat settings on Windows and then restore the backup file in TrackStat settings on the iMac. If you have tagged your music with musizbrainz tags this will definitely work, if you are

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] StringEditor for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread RonHatl
Hi Michael, I was finally able to test StringEditor on SC 7.3 today. Regrettably, it didn't work. From the web GUI; Settings/Plugins I can see the String Editor plugin recognized (v2.0) but with the error message (translated from Norwegian): "The Plugin module is not compatible with this version

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread auronthas
Thanks for reply, Erland, i am using latest Trackstat 2.5.1. My previous trackstat is stored at external hard drive at G:\Trackstat, when i insert my external hard drive into iMAC, there is no G: drive but 'volumes\'. So do i need to rename trackstat file with the correct path? -- auronthas

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] StringEditor for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Herger
> from Norwegian): "The Plugin module is not compatible with this version > of SqueezeCenter. You should update". Hmm... could you please make sure you have the following in the install.xml: * If there's a number in there, make it an asterisk and restart SC. Michael __

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread erland
auronthas;372959 Wrote: > Thanks for reply, Erland, i am using latest Trackstat 2.5.1. > > My previous trackstat is stored at external hard drive at G:\Trackstat, > when i insert my external hard drive into iMAC, there is no G: drive but > 'volumes\'. So do i need to rename trackstat file with

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] StringEditor for 7.3

2008-12-18 Thread RonHatl
That easy, huh? I'm embarrassed :-). Well, it seems to work perfectly now. I'll do some more testing. If you don't hear from me again everything is just.. heavenly. Thank you very much! Ronny -- RonHatl RonHatl's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Migrate Trackstat from Windows to Mac OS

2008-12-18 Thread auronthas
Thanks, Erland, i will try it out over the weekend. -- auronthas Auronthas Tajima Power Conditioner  Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio 540C V2  VDL The Source (CA) / AQ Copperhead (SB3)  Krell KAV-400xi  Chord Carnival Silver Plus / VDL Goldwater (current)  Sonus Faber Concertino Domus  Su