>I agree with MillmoorRon: I wouldn't update SC until absolutely necessary!
>
Me too. I like being on the bleeding edge and update daily, but there doesn't
appear to be too much incentive to upgrade to SC8, so I would probably stay
with SC7.4 (provided that continues to support MySQL), until mos
>Mix by Genre which overrides Filters
>
I have a filter defined in MusicIP that I use in SugarCube - "Not low rating",
so that it only plays tracks rated 4*, 5* or unrated. I use Mix Recipe "Prefer
Unplayed Tracks" I have not enabled Genre Mixing. However, when I use Dynamic
Playlist to play
>Yes, and it should be a tiny bit quicker than 0.70..
Wonderfull :-)
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>Have got it working through Dynamic Playlists which I haven't used
>before. Are there any advantages to doing it this way?
Ease of use, mainly.
You don't have to worry about turning SugarCube on or off - it will
automatically turn it on when the Dynamic Playlist is started, and will turn
off wh
>Note it will NOT work with 7.4 due to the core database changes, once
>7.4 is stable and the current release I will look at what changes are
>required.
>
I have successfully run this version on the latest 7.4/trunk code from SVN,
which doesn't currently include the SQLite DB changes.
I haven't t
>Just to make sure: you didn't enter the asterisks around $element by
>mistake? They're not supposed to be there, got added by some automatic
>filter. (I used bold in my forum post to emphasize the change.)
>
No :-)
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>I think you should be able to setup the SugarCube dynamic playlist as a
>favorite, this way you can launch it with a single button click as you
>launch any favorite.
>
>You can setup it as a favorite by using the heart icon beside the
>playlist in the web interface. After this you can use the "Fav
>Code:
> my $mytitle = SaveMyCurrentTrack($client,$song);
> # Strip and Store played track Latin1 format
> my $element = getMIPPath($client, $mytitle);
> refreshCube(); # Check settings
> my $mypageurl = buildMIPReq($client, *$elemen
>OK, I think I've fixed that in LazySearch 3.5.2 which I've just released
>to my plugin repository:
>http://www.hickinbottom.com/sc-plugins/repo.xml
For people who manually install plugins, the plugin can be downloaded directly
from: http://www.hickinbottom.com/sc-plugins/LazySearch2-7-3.5.2.zip
>Yes, but the question is: You you ever shut down that PC using
>SvrPowerControl? If not, the discussion is kind of moot.
Yes, I do. Normally from a player I will hibernate or suspend SC server.
Sometimes I hibernate to SN.
I have on one occasion hibernated to SN from a web browser running on t
>No, that's a typo :-)
Ah! I thought you meant Public House ;-)
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>Does that sound like a legitimate rationale? Or am I thinking up a
>superfluous festoon of a feature simply because I imagine that I can
>program it?
>
Well, if that's what people do, then I guess it would be useful ;-)
I have my PC serving SC, and a bunch of players. Occasionally, I use a netb
>I'm actually enthused now about the idea of redirecting the browser to
>SqueezeNetwork after the "2sn" actions. Can you think of any idea why
>this wouldn't be a good idea?
>
I've only half been reading this, but it seems a bit strange.
Under what circumstances would this be useful?
If you are
>is there a plugin that allows the squeezecenter webUI to play through
>the local sound card?
>
What would you expect a webUI to sound like? ;-)
Phil
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>Tamanaco, Phil: are you guys still seeing this? I can't replicate this
>with 7.4 SVN 26290.
>
Sorry, I haven't had chance to try it again yet.
I seem to have had a problem with Hibernation in general on my PC in recent
days - it hibernates, but when I turn it back on, it resumes but instantly
>Phil: do you get this consistently, even after you clear your browser's
>cache?
>
I'll let you know after I've tried it more than once ;-)
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When I used the WebUI to hibernate the server last night, I got the following
page displayed:
>403 Forbidden: plugins/SrvrPowerCtrl/actiondone.html
>
>In order to request this URL from a Bookmark/Favorite, or some means other
>than following a link from the SqueezeCenter web interface, you will
>Do you take donations? ;)
>
It's been suggested a few times that I should :-)
But, I would kind of feel guilty to ask for donations for a something that is
so simple compared to other plugins that have been produced! And I'm just too
lazy to set it up!
>I get plenty of "well, that's just stup
>Care to share with us your opinion of Britain's National Health system?
>
Better than some countries, but not many ;-) It's getting worse all the time,
as the population ages. But I think it's worse because we keep letting in
migrants who come for the freebies. So the system is stretched.
>M
It worked this morning! Not sure what I changed to get it to work - could have
simply been the missing /ami, or that I had done a reboot (perhaps some setting
hadn't been picked up until restarted).
Anyway, I can confirm that it works fine in 7.4.
Phil
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Interesting info. Seems like it would be possible then to pull back players
from SN conditionally.
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>Finally, would you be willing to perform your tests with the "Swtich
>ALL players when switching to SqueezeNetwork" setting enabled?
>
I have already been running with that setting enabled.
>I was planning on holding off on my next release until I had the OSX
>and installation via extension downl
>Without the /ami arg, the 2nd instance of WOSB.exe never ran. That's
>why your server didn't wakeup at the 3 minutes before alarm time. It
>was your other instance of WOSB.exe that performed the waking up.
>
Ah, I remember looking at that choice in the past - I must have lost it in the
settings
By chance, I just noticed this part of your post. Not a good idea to edit
messages - people using the mailing list don't see edited messages!
>Also, you're using the alternate app to schedule the wakeup for your system,
>not SCPowerTool...isn't that right?
Yes, I use WOSB.exe.
Schedule Wakeup
>Phil: would you be willing to set the "wake before alarm" setting back
>to 5 minutes and then increase the "Seconds to wait before trying to
>restore" time to 45 seconds or more?
Sure, I'll try that.
>I think it's possible, with the settings you had there, that SrvrPowerCtrl
>tried to yank the p
I tried "hybernate and switch to SqueezeNetwork" last night.
That part worked well. My server hibernated, and all of my players that were
powered on switched over to squeeze network.
I have configured SvrPowerControl to wakeup 3 mins before an alarm, and to
restore SqueezeNetwork connected pla
Too bad, it was a useful SqueezeCenter plugin.
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>But wasn't there a difference on clicking add.single and add.hold if
>browsing an album? Now my SB always adds the whole album to current
>playlist. Is there no way to change the mapping to the track context
>behaviour?
>
I don't understand your question. With the display showing an album, add
s
> [browsedb]
> add.single = play_1
> add.hold = BrowseAddMenu
>
>But I can't get it to work. If I tap the button or hold the button -
>everytime it adds the whole album to the current playlist. This is
>weired as I think there was a different function some time ago (hold ->
>adds 1 track; tap ->
>1. I have configured a filter in MusicIP "not low rating", that excludes
>tracks rated 1-3 (so I get unrated tracks or 4-5 *). I have selected this
>filter in the SugarCube "Use MusicIP Mix Filter each Hour" settings for hours
>in the morning. However, I do sometimes get low-rated tracks pick
Lately, I've had a couple of issues playing Spicefly SugarCube mixes via
Dynamic Playlist as a morning alarm:
1. I have configured a filter in MusicIP "not low rating", that excludes tracks
rated 1-3 (so I get unrated tracks or 4-5 *). I have selected this filter in
the SugarCube "Use MusicIP
For those people who want to install the old way, the zip file can be
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>I've been looking for something like this,and would love to encourage
>you to put it in a repository so that it could be installed with
>extension downloader.
>Any thought to this or development?
I have already put it in my repository, which is in the list of repositories in
the wiki (http://wik
>If you like to try patching, you can try to change this row in the
>SugarCube Plugin.pm file:
I made the change. I tried a SugarCube dynamic playlist, clearing playlist,
tried again, etc, several times, and it worked each time. Hard to proove that
it won't pick an internet radio url from the
I have an alarm scheduled to play a Dynamic Playlist that uses SugarCube. This
morning, it didn't play anything. The screen flashed the current date/time,
and I pressed a key and the screen just reported that it was playing Dynamic
Playlist SugarCube.
When the MIS screensaver kicked in, it ap
>in the last few days my song scanner plugin has stopped working; i can
>no longer fast forward or rewind through tracks.
>
That's not strictly true. The song scanner plugin provided a way to set a
playback position, not fast-forward or rewind.
SC used to provide true audio fast-forward/rewind c
>Same here... I just tried a track with "#" in its path and it fails. No
>such problems with tracks with "'" (apostrophe).
>
Maybe I was wrong with '. I'll try again - all I know is some chars cause my
Dynamic SugarCube Playlist to stop adding songs in the morning.
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I think apostrophies also need to be escaped. Music stops getting queued when
it plays a song with an & or '.
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>I've seen issues like this when non ascii characters are part of the
>file names, could this be the cause ?
>
I think it probably is.
It stopped again this morning. The last track that was played had a track
title with an ampersand "&" in it.
I wasn't running with the required trace settings t
>Or maybe even better the nokia skin.
Doesn't work too well for me. I don't think it's maintained.
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I have configured my morning alarm to play Sugercube as a Dynamic Playlist.
It works really well, except that it always seems to stop after a few songs
(around 6 tracks).
I can make a MusicIP playlist from the last track played from the Sugercube
dynamic playlist, and get 50 songs.
I have conf
>Can anyone recommend a plugin I can use to control my SB3 from a HP
>iPaq pda running windows mobile 5 ( I think)?
>
Just use the handheld webUI skin. http://:9000/Handheld
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>Does the log say anything more if you enable debug logging on TrackStat?
I'll try again.
>Is the problem only for paths which contain a apostrophe character ?
Hmmm, could be caused by "Phil's%20Music" - the apostrophe not being escaped -
that would account for the vast majority of my music libra
After the Itunes Statistics import job finished, I looked in TrackStat, and it
hadn't applied iTunes ratings to TrackStat. The log reported the following for
each track:
>[23:15:52.2189] Plugins::TrackStat::Storage::mergeTrack (1072) No matching
>alternative path found for
>file:///M:/Music/P
In the Web UI (default skin) SC7.4, it doesn't always show the now playing
playlist, so I can't rate songs.
Could be a fault when a player is synced?
1. I played an album on player A.
2. I synced player B to player A.
3. I started a MusicIP mix from a song that was playing, so I was now playing
>Well, that probably is because it is a screensaver...
It's not *just* a screensaver (or at least it wasn't). It used to be possible
to see what the weather was going to be whilst playing music by entering Extras
> WeatherTime.
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On the Player UI, it appears that Artist is actually showing Album Artist
content, and Track Artist is nowhere to be seen.
If I go into the Standard Track Info, it displays Album Artist and Track Artist.
Has this changed recently? I'm suprised I've not noticed until now.
Phil
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Also, I find that I cannot enter WeatherTime from the Extras menu - it only
works as a screensaver.
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Or at least it looks like it's not working - it's still in progress, but
reporting a lot of warnings in the log:
[23:15:52.2189] Plugins::TrackStat::Storage::mergeTrack (1072) No matching
alternative path found for
file:///M:/Music/Phil's%20Music/Compilations/Classics%20Regrooved/05%20-%20Tocat
>Phil - should now be in the 3rd party repo too.
Thanks.
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I've uploaded version 4.0 of Playlist Manager to my website
(http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/music.shtml).
This is also available from my repository, if you prefer to use Extension
Downloader (http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/repository.xml). I think
Playlist Manager has been add
>I found default.map in /usr/share/squeezecenter/IR, then followed the
>instructions on your site & it works like a charm!!! What a great
>plugin.
>
Glad you got it working.
>One other question, is there a way to add another playlist at the "Bad
>Music" level or better still, a sub folder to Bad
>The poll results suggest you are in the minority, validating the list
>of options. Right now there are 23 responses and no single option has
>23 votes. There are a couple of big vote-getters (to configure menus:
>15, browse multiple libs: 9) and most of the rest are in the 5-7 range.
>The conclu
>I am having trouble trying to get PlaylistMan working in Ubuntu.
>As described in the Customizing the Remote Functions section, I am not
>able to find the .\server\IR\ folder to create the custom.map file.
>
>This plugin sounds exactly what I need!!!
>
>Anyone have any ideas???
>
I'm the plugin a
>Question: Why do you use Custom Browse ?
>
>- I need to be able to browse multiple libraries
>- I need to be able to browse composers or conductors separately
>- I need it to be able to filter the contents of albums, artists or
> genres menus
>- I need an itermediate A-Z menu before showing a
WeatherTime is working nicely on SC7.4 for me.
However, one minor observation is that whenever I restart SC and my players
reconnect, the WeatherTime screensaver runs but doesn't get the latest weather
- I get the WeatherTime loading... message. If I power-on to idle mode, and
then power-off b
>> http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/spiceflyplugin/SugarCube1.8.3.zip
>
>Right click and save target on that works for me! :s
>Think it takes a while to propogate across the servers
I can't see that file either. The link erland gave worked fine.
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>Looks like the mkrepo.pl is basically all that is needed
>
No need for mkrepo.pl. It's easy to package up - just create an xml file that
has a node for each plugin (or version of a plugin). It references the
download location for the .zip file. The only annoying thing is having to
calculate
>Mikes is right. We can't change that term without the entire SC does it.
>Too bad. I really don't think it is a good term.
>
I disagree. Plugins can call their functionality whatever they like. A plugin
can explore a different way for synchronising music, and if successful it could
end up bein
>I'm interested in the SN switching. Can it switch a player to SN before
>shutdown, and then suck it back to local SC when the next alarm is due?
If my server suspends through some other action (eg. I manually suspend it),
it's not been instructed to wake up when the next alarm is due, so I hav
>I agree; sounds promising, and fairly comprehensive!
>
I agree, sounds great.
But the terminology is awkward still, I think.
The problem for me is the word Sync, which on its own does not describe
direction. I see synch as what happens when players are in a group. Setting
up synchronisation
>When would Band be different to Artist or Album Artist I wonder?
Simple really - when you enter a Band tag that is different from Artist or
Album Artist ;-)
In FLAC tags, Band = Band.
Mp3 id3 tags are a different kettle of fish. id3 doesn't support Album Artist,
and Microsoft in its wonderful
>Yes, but if that 1 track has a Track Count set properly as 1 also, muso
>will still identify it as a full album, even with the album
>qualification at 7. The album qualification setting is for collections
>of tracks in an album where the real number of tracks in that full
>album is not known. With
>Muso does it's own album aggregation, it doesn't try to import the
>album collection from SC. This was basically because I didn't like the
>way SC aggregated albums sometimes! I seem to remember if an album was
>split over multiple directories it was split into several albums in SC,
>and there see
>Well, the web UI didn't work with the default skin, and now it does :)
>
It does, and it's very good.
Thank you!
Phil
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I'm running V2R1, and have been for a while without any noticeable problem
(except webUI didn't work in default skin I think).
What was broken in V2R1 that is fixed in R2?
WebUI in default skin seems to work now.
Nb. I'm currently running 7.4. The plugin has maxVersion=7.3.*, so I had to
find
>This is by design, actually. You've managed to touch on one of my pet
>peeves: I think it is beyond the station of a "mere plugin" to tack its
>settings onto the "Advanced" tab. Or, to put it another way, my
>brain-care specialist will have to prescribe moxie pills to me before
>you'll see this
>The SysInternals ProcessExplorer is your friend for debugging things like this.
That's what I resorted to in the end.
>I don't have a solution for the quotes problem. I think this may be a
>limitation of the prefs system that SC uses.
>
I suspected that. Not to worry, I'll either add another sy
>I think Dean has succeeded in drilling into me the
>mantra that more options is bad and simple is good.
He's wrong ;)
More options are always better, but defined with good defaults.
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plugins have a settings page accessible from the Advanced settings tab.
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>Oh I see now - other users are experiencing differences in song counts
>between muso and SC too, I'm looking into it. Do you have any .flac
>files by any chance?
Yes. My library is mainly either mp3 (~15k tracks) or flac (7k tracks). I'm
gradually converting from using mp3 to flac...
My Squeez
>I'm not sure about that, is the box ticked at the top which says
>"Changed Today Only"? If so untick it.
>
No, I unticked that.
>How do you know it's showing 3340 tracks?
>
In the panel on the left-hand side, under Music Database it is reporting:
3,340 Tracks
198 Full Albums
66 Album Artists
123
>I'll have a think about this. It should certainly be possible to add
>both options, but at the very least, it should always be clear what
>you're going to get. There's an existing bug for the main sync ui on
>the squeezeboxes and controller as well - I'll see what the current
>thinking is there
One minor semi-annoyance is that the Options dialog is permanently on top of
all other applications, so when I was trying to find my correct mySQL Port,
userId, password, DB name, etc, it was obscuring my other windows with that
info in. NB. it's a bit weird that other app windows can appear on
Hmmm, I have imported the SC database, and it says it found 23,535 tracks.
However, it is only displaying 3,340 tracks when I browse the music database.
It appears to be filtered somehow - all albums appear to be live albums. I
haven't entered anything in the filter box.
I'm not sure what th
I like the artwork that is created for missing artwork. I have several live
albums that don't have artwork. In SC they all appear with the missing artwork
image, but in Muso, it creates an image that contains the aritst/album name
text in it.
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The "Finding Artwork" phase - is this just finding missing artwork (i.e. does
it use artwork that SC has already scanned - is it the original file/embedded
artwork, or does it use cached images from the SC cache)?
Does Muso store details (eg. artwork) in its own folder? Does Muso modify
anythi
>I can't see an import option.
Oh, silly me, I can see it now. It's not very clear - the word "Import" in
black on the background, just beneath "Music Database".
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>Tips for Squeezecenter users:
>- set your squeezecenter parameters on the Options window (tab 1), and
>turn on detection for squeezecenter devices on tab 5,
>- pick your player from the "Player" section on the left control panel
>(the little arrow),
>- go to the Music Database page, and import fro
I always get confused with Syncing, whether using this plugin or SC's default
sync option. I can never remember if the playlist on this player or the player
that I pick to sync with will be the one that continues. Half the time I get
it wrong and sync the wrong way round.
It would be nice to
> c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe /C start /B wosb.exe /run /systray dt=%f tm=%t"
> /ami
>
>Try the SrvrPowerCtrl->Settings:"Defer action if sleep timer is active"
>feature. If this is enabled and if sleep-playing is active, you can
>request a shutdown/suspend/etc. and SrvrPowerCtrl will wait unt
There's some incomplete instructions in the readme:
"Alternately, SrvrPowerCtrl can use the WakeupOnStandBy utility available at
www.dennisbabkin.com/wosb. To use WOSB, set the "
I think I'd like the plugin to use WOSB, as I already have that installed.
What do I need to do to make it use WOSB
>Good point. I'll add that to the web page, but for now it's
>http://thespicers.net/slim/OtherPlayers.zip.
>
I figured it out by looking in the repo xml file.
>Bear with me - I didn't even know about the new Extension Downloader
>until this afternoon.
Sure, no problem.
The issue for some is that
>The new plugin should be installed via the Extension Downloader from my
>repository at http://thespicers.net/slim/repo.xml. For further
>information, see http://thespicers.net/otherPlayers.html.
>
Why not also publicise the zip file for manual download/install? Some people
can't/don't want to i
> Please note due to the major rewrite Dynamic Playlist integration
>is removed and will be reintroduced soon!
I depend on that for my morning alarm clock, so I'll wait ;)
Phil
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At the moment, I have manually configured WOSB to fire a couple of minutes
before my morning alarm clock time, to ensure SC is awake.
I was thinking that this may not be necessary now, because I can configure a
Boom player to fire an alarm at the same time, which will send a WOL packet, so
I do
Sounds good. I use WOSB already, and TOff (Timer Off - to enter stand-by when
there's no activity).
I'm interested in the SN switching. Can it switch a player to SN before
shutdown, and then suck it back to local SC when the next alarm is due?
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I played an album, then when that completed playback, I played a MusicIP mix
based on genre=Classical.
When I navigate into TrackStat webUI, and click the Now Playing link to show
stats for the now playing playlist, it's not showing the correct content. It's
actually showing the playlist for t
>I'm seeing errors in the log when I use the standard SC Browse Artists menu
>(classic player UI):
Seems to be all standard SC browse menus.
Custom Browse works.
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I'm seeing errors in the log when I use the standard SC Browse Artists menu
(classic player UI):
[13:05:44.7970] Slim::Display::Display::curLines (481) Error: bad lines
function: Undefined subroutine &Plugins::SQLPlayList::Plugin::blessed called at
Plugins/SQLPlayList/Plugin.pm line 326.
[13:05
>> 2. Saved the playlist and played it. However, it played random songs
>> from genre=Rock, not constrained to year=2008. The template has mixed
>> tag name YEAR equal to 2008, and switching to custom SQL looks okay:
>>
>Strange, the SQL looks like it should only return those that are both
>"Roc
Just had a very quick play in WebUI, and notice a few things:
1. Went to "Custom Browse > Tags > Years > 2008 > Genre", and clicked "Create
mixed tag SQL Playlist" on the Rock genre.
This created a template named "Random for Rock" - it would be nice if the
default name included all selected valu
>I've made a first implementation of this in the just released versions
>of Custom Browse, Custom Scan and SQL Playlist.
Fantastic. I'll see if I can find time to try it out today.
Thanks,
Phil
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>However it doesn't show the old ratings of this album. If I open the
>current trackstat database it still shows .mp3 instead of .flac
>
With the patch I sent to Erland to include in Trackstat, when you restore an
xml file containing stats, it should work if the only change in the name is the
fil
>[08-12-29 11:27:17.7781] Slim::Web::HTTP::_generateContentFromFile
>(2489) Error: file error - INCLUDE_PATH exceeds 64 directories
This is nothing to do with a specific plugin; there's currently a limitation in
SC. When you have too many plugins with settings pages, you will see this
problem (
>..got it working but not sure if it was the reboot or the fact that
>I put it into C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Plugins instead of
>the other plugin folder. Anyway - all good!.
That's correct - should go in \server\Plugins not \server\Slim\Plugin.
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offered as an available plugin. After I restarted, the log reported:
[22:08:51.1408] Slim::Utils::PluginManager::enablePlugins (423) Couldn't load
Plugins::Email::Plugin. Error: Plugin is incompatible with this vers
>Philip, I think the idea is that nominations should go into this
>thread:
>http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56928
>
Sorry, two threads with very similar titles. I read via email whilst away, saw
this email and posted a reply.
>Andy (or someone else from Logitech), it's probably a
>- Is it possible for Extension downloader with user permission to feed
>back statistics on which plugins have been installed.
As long as you warn the end user that it will be calling home only to report
such usage (and provide an option to turn off the messaging).
>This would give a better measu
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