Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Herger
Michael! I think you have nailed the cause of this issue. If I change the URL to your suggestion, I get a mix back. replacing the %3d with the = sign? Or removing the additional parameters? That's quite surprising, as none of those showed any impact in my tests. But then I only tested against

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-17 Thread matthijskoopmans
mherger;486300 Wrote: Michael! I think you have nailed the cause of this issue. If I change the URL to your suggestion, I get a mix back. replacing the %3d with the = sign? Or removing the additional parameters? That's quite surprising, as none of those showed any impact in my tests.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-17 Thread matthijskoopmans
I have disabled the SpiceFly SugarCube, and replicated the issue. I have filed a bug report here: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15129 Michael: you are on the CC of the bug, as requested. Thanks to all that have responded. Let's hope that this resolves the issue for WHS, and we

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-16 Thread BodgeIT
Just thought I'd post contents of my mmm.ini for you to compare: [mix] mixsize=20 tracks restrict=10 tracks style=20 variety=0 seed=1 mydjrankingv2=1 dj= [server] proxy=0 host= proxyport=0 authentication=0 user= password= [services] key= cache=C:\Documents and

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-16 Thread BodgeIT
I guess what's going on is that the headless server and MusicIp GUI aren't actually talking to each other, only reading and writing to the same dbase. Funny how the Test Connection button on the server tab actually works? Didn't really pay that much attention when I set it up and it was a good

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-16 Thread matthijskoopmans
BodgeIT;485980 Wrote: Just thought I'd post contents of my mmm.ini for you to compare: Note the entries under [Services], now I'm not sure what's going on because in my Gui settings page in MusicIp API is not selected: I have changed the directory of the MIP Cache file, from Program

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Herger
http://localhost:10002/api/mix?song%3D%5C%5Cmkshome%5CMusic%5CSqueezebox%5CA%5CAlice%20In%20Chains%5CFacelift%5C03%20Sea%20of%20Sorrow.mp3variety=2rejectsize=5mixgenre=0style=20sizetype=minsize=240 Hmm... the above url seems to have a minor glitch. Can you open it in your browser? If not, what

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-15 Thread matthijskoopmans
Hi Michael, I never did that on the Vista/Win7 installation either. It did not help on the WHS system either, so I too doubt the purpose.. It made no difference. Is there a way the API from Music IP can be inaccessible to SqueezeBoxServer, considering they both reside on the same box? Or am I

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-15 Thread BodgeIT
Matt, I think you have another post on this running somewhere elae. I would like to confirm WHS running SB 7.4.2 with MusicIP 1.9b6 (headless). In reply to your other post I didn't mention that my system looks for it's music on my other server over the network. That's the only difference I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-15 Thread matthijskoopmans
Thanks. My apologies. I have not yet closed the other post and referenced this one. I have done that now. I have tried running it without the firewall on... that did not work. Since both servers are on the same box, I don't believe the firewall should block it. that said: after running with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-15 Thread BodgeIT
I had this running with 7.3.3 on WHS as well. The firewall would block access to network share unless smb was allowedthrough which more thasn likely is default, Agree it shouldn't make a difference but just to rule it out I thought to suggest it. I don't know if you've tried this through your

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-14 Thread Michael Herger
MusicIP API error - invalid request or internal error. This can result if the file to be mixed can't be found by mip. Does it happen with all files? Are you using the same unc path in mip? I can see the Music IP site on port 10002, both on WHS itself and on do you get a mix for the above

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-14 Thread matthijskoopmans
from the web site (spicefly version of the index.html), the mixes are generated. From the GUI, the mixes work perfectly.. Only with SqueezeBoxServer I seem to have an issue. This worked very well before I migrated SqueezeBoxServer and MusicIP from my home use PC to a dedicated server. The UNC's

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-14 Thread matthijskoopmans
J_zurigo;485200 Wrote: yes, that's right. Nevertheless, I changed the settings in the gui (even if I'm not using it) to port 10003 and unchecked all the settings reg. api, etc. (just like Spicefly suggests here: http://spicefly.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=35Itemid=32 ). I

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-14 Thread Michael Herger
I have confirmed that the settings in MMM.ini are as per website instructions, and the Client settings are identical (i.e. switch to port 10003 on the client). The server is still accessible over port 10002 (which it gets from mmm.ini). I don't know where this idea about port changing comes

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread Chunkywizard
Hi there, OP here. No, I never got this working. I spent a lot of time on it and gave up frustrated. It just seems it needed too many steps to get it to work. I have fallen back on erland's dynamic playlists which I have tweaked to use keywords I have embedded in the comment fields of my mp3s.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread J_zurigo
Although I was not able to help matthijskoopmans with his WHS/MIP issue so far, I can confirm having a working WHS/MIP(headless)/Squeezeserver installation over here. If it helps, that's the Squeezeserver version I'm using: Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 @ Tue Oct 20 08:13:15 PDT 2009 cheers J_zurigo

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread matthijskoopmans
Thanks Chunky Wizard.. I am not giving up just yet. When I do get it working, I am sure to put up a Wiki for it. J Zurigo: i wonder what the differences are between our two systems. I have eliminated the issue to SqueezeboxServer not being able to access the MusicIP API. I assume you run MIP

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread J_zurigo
matthijskoopmans;485174 Wrote: I assume you run MIP headless, and don't have the gui running on the WHS desktop? yes, that's right. Nevertheless, I changed the settings in the gui (even if I'm not using it) to port 10003 and unchecked all the settings reg. api, etc. (just like Spicefly

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread Wirrunna
ob_kook;485231 Wrote: You guys who are using MusicIP - do you know if the analysis servers are running again? For a while they were taken down, and my collection is frankly too big to run the analysis all locally. I used to have the entire thing analyzed, but the results were corrupted

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread matthijskoopmans
The analysis server seems to be up and running. (much unlike my WHS-MIP-SBS integration :) ) Cheers Matt -- matthijskoopmans Livingroom: SB3 (Logitech Black) + Onkyo SR805 + JBL CF120 + Dali Concept Sub Bedroom: SB BOOM Office: SB3 (SlimDevices White) + Onkyo ASV420 + Jamo C70 + Jamo SW600

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread Michael Herger
You guys who are having trouble getting this up and running - where are you stuck? ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-13 Thread matthijskoopmans
hi Michael, I seem to be stuck where SqueezeBoxServer invokes MIP via the API to send a seed for mixing, and receive the mix back. Here is the log output with MusicIP on Debugger: [09-11-11 15:27:07.1999] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::getMix (928) Creating mix for: album using:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-11-12 Thread matthijskoopmans
To Original Poster: I am quite interested in learning if you actually got MIP working over WHS. To anyone that may be able to help: I am a big MIP and SugarCube fan, but for the life of me, I cannot seem to get MIP working on WHS. I started a separate thread on that (here: ), and here is a

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-11 Thread cparker
tamanaco;456406 Wrote: cparker, do you plan to fully support the SugarCube plugin on the SC 7.4 builds or are you just going to wait for the 8.x builds and bypass the 7.4 builds all together? Yep when it reaches critical mass and is the std version, plus if there is interest in keeping it

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-11 Thread tamanaco
cparker;457252 Wrote: Yep when it reaches critical mass and is the std version, plus if there is interest in keeping it up-to-date. I must admit most of the enhancements are on hold until the db settles as my next adventures will be delving under the covers and they are changing, so I would

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-09 Thread Pipedream
I'll probably support it once its shipped looking at the Change Log there isnt anything that is a must have to inspire me to upgrade to 7.4 at the moment. Regards -- Pipedream Pipedream's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-08 Thread tamanaco
cparker;456015 Wrote: Correct, though the standard MusicIP plugin works in the same method just that it talks to the engine once to gather a heap of tracks in one go. SugarCube works independently and doesnt require the MusicIP plugin enabled within Squeezecenter with its double scanning

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-08 Thread cparker
Well I can tell you that the MIP plugin and the Sugarcube are mutually exclusive and dont touch each other at all. SugarCube does obviously utilise utf8 and I guess something has changed with the Squeeze Unicode utf8 de/encoding functions that is breaking it. I think I'll stick with 7.3.x for

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-08 Thread tamanaco
cparker;456323 Wrote: Well I can tell you that the MIP plugin and the Sugarcube are mutually exclusive and dont touch each other at all. SugarCube does obviously utilise utf8 and I guess something has changed with the Squeeze Unicode utf8 de/encoding functions that is breaking it. I

[SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
Hi there, I am trying to get MusicIP working on my WHS but am getting confused by conflicting and old information. When I get this working I intend to publish a small up to date guide about how to do this so other people don't have to go through the pain I am currently enduring. The information

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread lrossouw
There is a ok write-up here about half-way down the page but it isn't specific to WHS: http://wiredformusic.blogspot.com/2008/05/squeezing-most-out-of-your-squeezebox.html -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw)

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
Thanks for that, interesting reading. Unfortunately it does back up my message that information is not in the right place and is incomplete! This article says the solution to getting MusicIP and SBS to boot in the right order is to do it manually. I would prefer an automated solution. I could try

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Herger
This article says the solution to getting MusicIP and SBS to boot in the right order is to do it manually. You have to do it as described by spicefly (create a dependancy). This is still true in 7.3+. I could try the registry hack on spicefly.com but I am not sure if it is up to date or

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Herger
One more thing: instead of setting up a new page somewhere new you should update the wiki, eg. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter or related. This way we won't end up with several outdated and conflicting pages. Thanks! -- Michael

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
mherger;455939 Wrote: One more thing: instead of setting up a new page somewhere new you should update the wiki, eg. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter or related. This way we won't end up with several outdated and conflicting pages.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
mherger;455938 Wrote: This article says the solution to getting MusicIP and SBS to boot in the right order is to do it manually. You have to do it as described by spicefly (create a dependancy). This is still true in 7.3+. I could try the registry hack on spicefly.com but I am

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Herger
Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? That's stupid: while the service GUI offers a page to show the dependencies, there's imho no way to configure them in there. Your best bet is to use sc.exe, as eg. described here:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
mherger;455946 Wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? That's stupid: while the service GUI offers a page to show the dependencies, there's imho no way to configure them in there. Your best bet is to use sc.exe, as eg. described here:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Herger
Can you answer my other question. Do I need both the MusicIP plugin and the SpiceFly plug-in or can I use one without the other? Don't know about SpiceFly. But you sure can use MusicIP without it. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
mherger;455946 Wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Can you tell me how to create a dependency then? That's stupid: while the service GUI offers a page to show the dependencies, there's imho no way to configure them in there. Your best bet is to use sc.exe, as eg. described here:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Herger
not exist or has been marked for deletion. I reckon I have got the service name for MusicIP wrong, but how do I find it out? Well, it's written on MusicIP's service page. And it's MusicIP Server here. So don't forget the quotes in the sc.exe command line -- Michael

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
Great. I can confirm it's all working now. You need to type the follow in the DOS box: sc config squeezesvc depend= MusicIP Server It now shows as a dependency in services. Thanks very much for your help CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom x2 (Lounge and Kitchen) *Squeezecenter:*

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread tamanaco
mherger;455951 Wrote: Can you answer my other question. Do I need both the MusicIP plugin and the SpiceFly plug-in or can I use one without the other? Don't know about SpiceFly. But you sure can use MusicIP without it. -- Michael Well, maybe this information could be useful:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread cparker
tamanaco;455975 Wrote: SugarCube is dependent on the intelligence of the MusicIP engine to select the next track to the playlist. Correct, though the standard MusicIP plugin works in the same method just that it talks to the engine once to gather a heap of tracks in one go. SugarCube works

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread MeSue
tamanaco;455975 Wrote: This is how I seee it at a high level. The difference between MusicIP and SugarCube is that with MusicIP one can manually create an intelligent playlist with a predetermined number of tracks based on a single seed (track). I would just make a correction that you are

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread tamanaco
MeSue;456079 Wrote: I would just make a correction that you are not restricted to a single track for the seed. Your MIP mixes can be based on a single track, an album, an artist, a playlist, or multiple tracks. It's just that in most Squeezebox interfaces, it's difficult to select multiple

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP/ SpiceFly for WHS running 7.4 - your help needed

2009-09-07 Thread Chunkywizard
Thanks for all the input, I now know a lot more than before. However I still don't know enough to get this working! I'm still fiddling, and will be back with questions if my current ideas all fail ;-D I reread the wiki and I really don't know enough to update it, I'm skimming the surface. What