Spam filtering

2010-06-22 Thread Steffan A. Cline
I am using postfix with Virtualmin and am trying to follow numerous tutorials on spam prevention/handling. I have tried to apply the following to the postfix main.cf file. smtpd_delay_reject = yes smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_helo

outbound spam filtering

2008-12-16 Thread David Koski
An ISP that I do work for recently had an acocunt on their CommuniGatePro server hijacked by a spammer. Of course this got them on the blacklist of AOL, Yahoo and others. There are three inbound Postfix relay servers for blacklisting that are in front of three Barracuda spam filters. I am try

Re: Spam filtering

2010-06-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Steffan A. Cline put forth on 6/22/2010 8:01 PM: > It's a long post. Sorry. Yeah, it was long, and probably overly ambitious for a single thread topic. Instead of addressing your questions about individual main.cf parameter settings and policy services, I'm going to make a few suggestions which s

Re: Spam filtering

2010-06-23 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-23 12:34 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > permit_mynetworks > reject_unauth_destination > permit_sasl_authenticated Under most circumstances, reject_unauth_destination should go *after* permit_sasl_authenticated, or your sasl authenticate

Re: Spam filtering

2010-06-23 Thread Steffan A. Cline
nC ICQ : 57234309 YAHOO : Steffan_Cline MSN : stef...@hldns.com GOOGLE: Steffan.Cline Lasso Partner Alliance Member ------- > From: Stan Hoeppner > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:34:09 -0500 > To: > Subject: Re: Spa

Re: Spam filtering

2010-06-23 Thread Steffan A. Cline
ine > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:39:04 -0700 > To: > Subject: Re: Spam filtering > > Stan, > > Thanks for the quick reply. All I can say is WOW. > > I did poke around on this CentOS install and am not seeing a config file > like you have but perhaps this is it: >

Re: Spam filtering

2010-06-23 Thread Steve Linford
On 23 Jun 2010, at 06:34, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > DKIM checks are pretty much useless for killing spam Currently true, but hopefully soon to change… Spamhaus is releasing two new DNSWLs in about 4 weeks time, one of which specifically validates DKIM domains against a list of verified known good

Re: Spam filtering

2010-06-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Steffan A. Cline put forth on 6/23/2010 8:39 AM: > I am assuming from your conf file you have: >> POSTGREY_OPTS="--inet=127.0.0.1:6" > From the options I see, I could put that into the startup file above by > changing: > OPTIONS="--unix=$SOCKET" > To > OPTIONS="--inet=127.0.0.1:6" Yeah, t

Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Hello again friends. Long time no see. I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one particular non-Posfix based e-mail service. For the sake of c

Re: outbound spam filtering

2008-12-16 Thread mouss
David Koski a écrit : > An ISP that I do work for recently had an acocunt on their CommuniGatePro > server hijacked by a spammer. Of course this got them on the blacklist of > AOL, Yahoo and others. There are three inbound Postfix relay servers for > blacklisting that are in front of three Bar

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-05 Thread Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre
Hi, I think outgoing scans are a little different. You have some advantages and disadvantages respect incoming mail scanning. Advantages are that you know you're users and more or less what they do or you have it controlled with some scripts. So you can identify easier when a user is

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-05 Thread Alex
ram wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 11:47 +0200, Alex wrote: Hello This is my first post on this list. I have a atypical configuration like : - an MX server for inbound mails; this server is configured virtual domains, graylisting , antivirus and antispam for all incoming mails; it

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-05 Thread Alex
Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote: Hi, I think outgoing scans are a little different. You have some advantages and disadvantages respect incoming mail scanning. Advantages are that you know you're users and more or less what they do or you have it controlled with some scripts. So you can i

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-06 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von Alex : Hi The trust in my own users led me to his post. The users are ignorant (not all, but..). No one care about how send , what send, where send , thei just wnat to send more and more . I don't trust anyone and my server too. I know that the outbound filtering is d

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-06 Thread egoitz
>>> >> > Hi > > The trust in my own users led me to his post. The users are ignorant > (not all, but..). No one care about how send , what send, where send , > thei just wnat to send more and more . > I don't trust anyone and my server too. > I know that the outbound filtering is diffe

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-06 Thread Alex
ego...@ramattack.net wrote: Hi The trust in my own users led me to his post. The users are ignorant (not all, but..). No one care about how send , what send, where send , thei just wnat to send more and more . I don't trust anyone and my server too. I know that the outboun

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-06 Thread Alex
lst_ho...@kwsoft.de wrote: Zitat von Alex : Hi The trust in my own users led me to his post. The users are ignorant (not all, but..). No one care about how send , what send, where send , thei just wnat to send more and more . I don't trust anyone and my server too. I know that t

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-07 Thread Phill Macey
urn the outgoing mail around and make it inbound mail as well? eg. Could you make use of 'always_bcc' to copy all outgoing messages to an address on another postfix instance somewhere and then run the spam filtering over the incoming mail on that instance? Tell the spam filter to throw away

Re: outbound spam filtering

2009-11-08 Thread mouss
Phill Macey a écrit : > 2009/11/7 mouss : >> >> Most statistical anti-spam filters assume an inbound model. you can use >> a "global" bayes setup, but then I don't think you'll benefit from >> dspam/bogo/... >> > > Could you turn the outgoing mail around and make it inbound mail as > well? [snip]

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Wietse Venema
Ronald F. Guilmette: > > > Hello again friends. Long time no see. > > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list > regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one particular > non-Posfix bas

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ronald F. Guilmette put forth on 11/6/2010 5:14 AM: > Hello again friends. Long time no see. > > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list > regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one pa

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 6, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Hello again friends. Long time no see. No, we were speaking yesterday, as I recall... > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... Well, yes. > ... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another maili

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Michael J Wise put forth on 11/6/2010 9:53 AM: > But since RFG is taking a crash course in outflow filtering, I also would be > VERY interested in whatever suggestions the list membership might have about > ways to do it well. > > Currently, the service where I am employed uses automated proces

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 6, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > I'm guessing your perspective is going to be different that most users > on this list, who are, I'm guessing, not ISPs or service providers per > se. Yeah. We have about a thousand servers currently doing mail classification. > Thus, I'm guessi

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Michael J Wise put forth on 11/6/2010 11:02 AM: > Adding locks after the fact with existing contracts in place can get messy. > But we are thinking about it, and are working on rate limiting for some > customers. > The thing is, we don't want to "Punish" people as such, we want to FIX THE > PROB

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Michael J Wise put forth on 11/6/2010 11:02 AM: > >> Adding locks after the fact with existing contracts in place can get messy. >> But we are thinking about it, and are working on rate limiting for some >> customers. >> The thing is, we don't

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-06 Thread Will Fong
On Nov 6, 2010, at 3:14 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to > be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list > regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one particular > non-Posfix based e-mail servic

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <4cd55507.4090...@hardwarefreak.com>, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >... >2. Policyd > - per user rate limiting > - per user send quota I am really quite interested in finding out if there is any pre-canned stuff available to implement the above. Does anyone have an already-dev

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Michael J Wise wrote: >>I believe you can set per user rate limits using policyd. > >Problem is, they don't. >The mailbox is on THEIR system. >And however much we beg, plead or whine, some of our customers don't >share their complete user list with us. Michael, I'm really not sur

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Will Fong wrote: >On Nov 6, 2010, at 3:14 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> I've gotten myself into a somewhat heated discussion... which seems to >> be the only kind I get into these days... on another mailing list >> regarding the spam outflow filtering capabilities of one part

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-07 Thread mouss
Le 07/11/2010 09:27, Ronald F. Guilmette a écrit : In message<4cd55507.4090...@hardwarefreak.com>, Stan Hoeppner wrote: ... 2. Policyd - per user rate limiting - per user send quota I am really quite interested in finding out if there is any pre-canned stuff available to impl

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-08 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <20101107091813.21bf5104...@camomile.cloud9.net>, mouss wrote: >> Does anyone have an already-developed policd, either available as >> freeware or for sale that implements the above (rate limits& quotas)? > >Well, Stan meant an implementation, not a general concept :) > http://w

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-08 Thread Stan Hoeppner
l. AFAIK qpsmtpd is written entirely in perl. I know of an org that's running a million inbound messages/day through qpsmtpd on a pretty low end dual socket Proliant server, with full pre-queue spam filtering including SpamAssassin. Actually a million a day on two such MXen, 2 million total

Re: Outflow spam filtering (?)

2010-11-08 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:22:51PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <20101107091813.21bf5104...@camomile.cloud9.net>, > mouss wrote: > > >> Does anyone have an already-developed policd, either available as > >> freeware or for sale that implements the above (rate limits& quota

Anti spam filtering tools

2015-03-05 Thread b...@todoo.biz
Hi, I am currently using postfix with amavisd + spamassassin on FreeBSD. I have also SPF implemented with some py module. It is working quite well but I found the management and update of amavisd quite heavy ! I wanted to know what you were using out there in order to filter efficiently s

Re: Anti spam filtering tools

2015-03-05 Thread b...@todoo.biz
I am quite surprised that no one has anything to say about this… ;-? G.B. > Le 5 mars 2015 à 19:17, b...@todoo.biz a écrit : > > Hi, > > I am currently using postfix with amavisd + spamassassin on FreeBSD. > I have also SPF implemented with some py module. > > It is working quite wel

Re: Anti spam filtering tools

2015-03-05 Thread Aly Khimji
Hey, I know it can be quite cumbersome but are you using a flat file for managing amavisd and policies or are using mysql backend? I have found putting all the policies, domains, managment, blacklists etc.. into mysql to be a much better way to manage it. Then you can use a tool like phpmyadmin

Re: Anti spam filtering tools

2015-03-05 Thread Eugene R
Hello, Your mileage likely will be different, but I stopped using (content-based) spam filtering tools altogether several years ago (previously used SpamAssassin and then DSPAM) in favor of a (rather conservative) set of Postfix smtpd restrictions (including Spamhaus DNSBL). One of the

Re: Anti spam filtering tools

2015-03-05 Thread Noel Jones
All anti-spam tools require configuration and updating. Updating (via the FreeBSD ports system or the various linux package management tools) should be fairly painless for any antispam tool you choose, or at least they should all have a similar level of pain. Amavisd-new does not stand out as par

Re: Anti spam filtering tools

2015-03-06 Thread b...@todoo.biz
Le 6 mars 2015 à 00:48, Noel Jones a écrit : > > All anti-spam tools require configuration and updating. > > Updating (via the FreeBSD ports system or the various linux package > management tools) should be fairly painless for any antispam tool > you choose, or at least they should all have a si

Question about cloud spam filtering configuration

2012-08-14 Thread Futchko, Rose
Hi, I am a newbie to postfix and have a basic configuration question. I am setting up a simple listserv on the same server as Postfix, and have successfully setup inbound mail to be sent through a clouds based spam filter (Symantec cloud). However, I am having trouble setting up Postfix to send

Best practice: Spam-filtering outgoing e-mail

2010-03-16 Thread Vegard Svanberg
Hi, we are trying to mitigate the impact of having infected users, brute force hacked webmail accounts etc. sending (larging amounts of) outbound spam. The best idea we've come up with so far is to perform outbound spam filtering following these rules (it's a bit more complicated than

Re: Question about cloud spam filtering configuration

2012-08-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Futchko, Rose : > Hi, > > I am a newbie to postfix and have a basic configuration question. I am > setting up a simple listserv on the same server as Postfix, and have > successfully setup inbound mail to be sent through a clouds based spam > filter (Symantec cloud). However, I am having trouble

RE: Question about cloud spam filtering configuration

2012-08-14 Thread Futchko, Rose
@postfix.org Subject: Re: Question about cloud spam filtering configuration * Futchko, Rose : > Hi, > > I am a newbie to postfix and have a basic configuration question. I am > setting up a simple listserv on the same server as Postfix, and have > successfully setup inbound mail to be sent t

Re: Best practice: Spam-filtering outgoing e-mail

2010-03-16 Thread ram
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 15:40 +0100, Vegard Svanberg wrote: > Hi, > > we are trying to mitigate the impact of having infected users, brute > force hacked webmail accounts etc. sending (larging amounts of) outbound > spam. > > The best idea we've come up with so far i

Re: Best practice: Spam-filtering outgoing e-mail

2010-03-16 Thread mouss
Vegard Svanberg a écrit : > Hi, > > we are trying to mitigate the impact of having infected users, brute > force hacked webmail accounts etc. sending (larging amounts of) outbound > spam. > > The best idea we've come up with so far is to perform outbound spam > fi

Re: Best practice: Spam-filtering outgoing e-mail

2010-03-16 Thread mouss
The best idea we've come up with so far is to perform outbound spam >> filtering following these rules (it's a bit more complicated than this, >> but this is the big picture): >> >> - Spam scoring (Spamassassin). If spam: >> - Put the mail on hold

Re: Best practice: Spam-filtering outgoing e-mail

2010-03-17 Thread Alex
rform outbound spam filtering following these rules (it's a bit more complicated than this, but this is the big picture): - Spam scoring (Spamassassin). If spam: - Put the mail on hold - Add an iptables rule rejecting the IP - Notify postmaster/abuse Also, * Implement ratelimits both insi

Spam filtering problem [Probably really a BIND problem, but let's not poison the well...]

2010-04-05 Thread listserv . traffic
Ok, I started down this path a while back and left it on the shelf - but now I'm back on the case, but I'm still baffled and don't know where else to ask. If you'd point me in the right direction, I'd be very grateful. I'll also include the problem here so you can take a crack at it too. --- In