RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Dominic Burford
<< The analogy to indoor plumbing isn't entirely glib Of course it is. How can you possibly compare indoor plumbing to war? To my knowledge, indoor plumbing has never killed anyone, or resulted in civil war. How many women and children have been killed from indoor plumbing? I think you have ove

RE:[NF] UK DSL Market ...WAS... [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Tristan Leask
Hmm, I have not got into VOIP yet as I don't make that many calls and my mobile T-Mob contract gives me heaps of talk n text time. As for BT, you could say that but Ofcom would cut your balls off because in theory, and I mean 'theory' BT Wholesale has nothing to do with BT resale. In fact in

RE: [Fwd: [NF]: Unsnarl Windows Genuine Advantage validation process]

2006-06-20 Thread Tristan Leask
Funny thing is though, I have specifically told windows update to not install this patch, yet windows is still pulling down all the latest patches. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Posted At: 19 June 2006 21:54 Posted To:

Re: [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread petetheisen
jeff wrote: At 12:14 PM 6/19/2006, you wrote: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060615.html "Microsoft has spent five years and $5 billion NOT shipping Windows Vista. This reflects a company deliberately built in the image of its founder, Bill Gates -- a single-tasking, technically ob

RE:[NF] UK DSL Market ...WAS... [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Andy Davies
Tristan said "I use PlusNET Broadband Plus, which for £15 gives me 3GB of peak time usage ..." I use Eclipse, which for £19 gives me unlimited usage - vpn *can* be a bit heavy on usage. I would recommend Eclipse without hesitation. Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP   - AndyD    8-)#

RE: [NF] UK DSL Market ...WAS... [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Tristan Leask
I did have a gander at eclipse and with all the daft things that plusnet have been doing, I might migrate there soon. Just gotta wait till my 12 month contract is up in August. Then I won't have to pay my migration in fee (£14.95). Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

RE: [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Allen
I never forgave them for their so called always on dial up. Remember that always on that had a time limit. So I would never use BT because they change the rules to suit themselves so often. Allen -Original Message- skype? vonage? freetalk? - no, good old BT. They may not be the most tren

Re: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread petetheisen
Ed Leafe wrote: It's always interesting to hear war spoken about as something glorious, when those who have actually been in battle will tell you that it is horrific. Yet our war-supporting media is filtering out the disturbing images coming out of Iraq so as not to turn the public aga

Re: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread petetheisen
Leland Jackson wrote: This should be a job for the UN. Hi Leland! Indeed, it should. However, the UN in its 50 plus years of history has never really done anything of lasting importance. Came close with Audrey Hepburn's save the children campaign, but even she died trying rather than succee

Re: Problem with MYSQL query from VFP8

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 6/19/06, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mathematically, it would make sense to exclude records in the JOIN phase first, and then discriminate later in the WHERE clauses, imo. Assuming the process is serial: that the computer reads from left-to-right, top-to-bottom, and ex

RE: [OT] Connie Chung, Take your Medicine

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen the Cook
petetheisen <> wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > > Hi Michael! > > Nice try but he didn't get it. > > Regards, > > Pete >> When I have evil in my sole, I use Dr. Scholl's. What you have Athletes foot? Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.

Re: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread petetheisen
Dominic Burford wrote: << The analogy to indoor plumbing isn't entirely glib Of course it is. How can you possibly compare indoor plumbing to war? To my knowledge, indoor plumbing has never killed anyone, or resulted in civil war. How many women and children have been killed from indoor plumbi

Foxtalk

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Hawksworth
It looks as if Rainer is no longer Editor and has been replaced by Jonathan Rabson. I was a bit disappointed that there was no mention of Craigs vfpEncryption fll didn't get a mention. -- Michael Hawksworth Visual Fox Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.foxpro.co.uk

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Crozier
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/oq6qf ) Pete Personally, I think that rather than the media hide these images from the public, they should be allowed to see them in graphic detail. Only in this way will the politicians and groundswell of apathetic people c

[NF] VOIP and Skype was [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
Well, I've been using Skype as a means of chatting online with fellow developers and it works well enough for our purposes. However, intense usage of the local machine can cause choppiness, especially on a wireless connection (audio->digitized sound->network packets->radio signals->network packets

RE: Foxtalk

2006-06-20 Thread Tristan Leask
There is something on the back page but it isn't Craigs though (Quick Tips). Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hawksworth Posted At: 20 June 2006 11:07 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Foxtalk Subject: Foxtalk It look

Re: [OT] Connie Chung, Take your Medicine

2006-06-20 Thread petetheisen
Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! Nice try but he didn't get it. Regards, Pete When I have evil in my sole, I use Dr. Scholl's. --- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are talking about the inner beauty or vile evil that can be found at the deeps of a man sole ___

Re: Foxtalk

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Hawksworth
That's what I mean. I think anyone doing a quick reference on cryptography in vfp really should include Craigs work. -- Michael Hawksworth Visual Fox Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.foxpro.co.uk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscriptio

Re: [NF] VOIP and Skype was [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Hawksworth
BT (not much use in the states I know) has just announced that they are offering hi-def voip with their 8MB broadband package. It will be interesting to find out what the quality is like. The 8MB service has a higher push rate which must help. -- Michael Hawksworth Visual Fox Solutions [EMA

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Bob Calco
! << The analogy to indoor plumbing isn't entirely glib ! ! Of course it is. How can you possibly compare indoor plumbing to war? Jeez Dominic do I have to spell it out? Because we are not 'making war' for the sake of killing people so that we can have more misery and death captured on gruesom

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Dominic Burford
<< Jeez Dominic do I have to spell it out? Now who's getting all shrill ;-) Bob, as I said, I *do* get your point, but I just think in this instance it was cheap. Regards Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EM

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Bob Calco
! << Jeez Dominic do I have to spell it out? ! ! Now who's getting all shrill ;-) That's not shrill, that's "wondering how to get past three inches of bone to help the message sink in"... ;) ! ! Bob, as I said, I *do* get your point, but I just think in ! this instance ! it was cheap. Let m

Re: [NF] VOIP and Skype was [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 6/20/06, Michael Hawksworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 8MB service has a higher push rate which must help. If I understand the technology correctly, voice is pretty low bandwidth - something like a 22k sampling rate or perhaps less. monophonic, 4k-12kHz. But it's extremely sensitive to

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Dominic Burford
<< I was not making an analogy comparing the images to indoor plumbing, and thereby "cheapening" the former. I was using that absurd example to expose the absurdity of Ed's alleged logic. >> Bob I get it, I just don't agree with it. Ed posted a link to a site which contained distressing image

[NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Cully
I'm just throwing this out there although I haven't tried it. PROS: Some VFP compatibility. Fat client, console, and web application development (using .NET???) Cross platform with Windows and Linux supported Multiple backend databases supported natively ODBC database access also supported CONS:

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Bob Calco
! ! << ! I was not making an analogy comparing the images to indoor ! plumbing, and ! thereby "cheapening" the former. I was using that absurd example to ! expose the absurdity of Ed's alleged logic. ! >> ! ! Bob ! ! I get it, I just don't agree with it. ! ! Ed posted a link to a site whic

Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread jeff
http://www.recital.com/ It does look interesting but from what I could gather without jumping through all of the hoops, cost prohibitive: $1495 for the Linux version. Why would I have to log into their forums just to see the dang price? At 07:35 AM 6/20/2006, you wrote: I'm just throwing thi

Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Cully
Oops. I forgot to include the URL: http://www.recital.com/ Kevin Cully wrote: I'm just throwing this out there although I haven't tried it. PROS: Some VFP compatibility. Fat client, console, and web application development (using .NET???) Cross platform with Windows and Linux supported Multip

[OT] There is no war in Iraq

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
A bit of clarity on the proper use of language. There is no war in Iraq, and it is fallacious to keep calling it that. It is an occupation, and has been for over 3 years. ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/jaaus ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Show the Americans incinerated in 911 --- petetheisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Leafe wrote: > > It's always interesting to hear war spoken about as something > > glorious, when those who have actually been in battle will tell you > > that it is horrific. Yet our war-supporting medi

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Show the movies of Americans jumping out of the World Trade Center. We don't see these images anymore. --- Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/oq6qf ) > > > Pete > Personally, I think that rather than the m

Re: [OT] There is no war in Iraq

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Go back to soccer --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A bit of clarity on the proper use of language. There is no war in > Iraq, and it is fallacious to keep calling it that. It is an > occupation, and has been for over 3 years. > >

Re: [OT] Connie Chung, Take your Medicine

2006-06-20 Thread Leland Jackson
Whoops, I know that the "Sole" of my shoes are different that the inner beauty that emminates from the deeps of my "Soul". Regards, LelandJ Michael Madigan wrote: When I have evil in my sole, I use Dr. Scholl's. --- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are talking about the inne

Re: [OT] Connie Chung, Take your Medicine

2006-06-20 Thread Leland Jackson
Michael beat you to it, ahe Pete. Regards, LelandJ petetheisen wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! Nice try but he didn't get it. Regards, Pete When I have evil in my sole, I use Dr. Scholl's. --- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are talking about the inner beauty

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Adam Buckland
Why not show the Vietnamese napalmed instead. There isn't a link between 911 and Iraq, and whilst you know it you keep trying to draw one... -Original Message- From: Michael Madigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 June 2006 13:57 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Images of wa

Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: As a side pet peeve of mine, they make it very difficult to get the price of their various products unless you begin their purchasing process. This always makes me nervous. Shouldn't the prices be clear and readily available? Take

[OT] joke

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Russell
I have heard that some of you fall into this dilemma? WHY CONDOMS COME IN BOXES OF 3, 6, AND 12 A man walks into a drug store with his 8-year old son. They happen to walk by the condom display, and the boy asks, "What are these, Dad? To which the man matter-of-factly replies, "Those are cal

[OT] joke 2

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Russell
A lawyer named Strange died, and his friend asked the tombstone maker to inscribe on his tombstone, "Here lies Strange, an honest man, and a lawyer." The inscriber insisted that such an inscription would be confusing, for passersby would tend to think that three men were buried under the stone. Ho

Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Cully
That's one of my pet peeves about Dabo too! You're making it very hard to find the price on your web site!!! {Kevin ducks behind his desk} Ed Leafe wrote: Take all that money and send it to the Dabo developers instead! Oops, forgot the tags! ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- h

Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: That's one of my pet peeves about Dabo too! You're making it very hard to find the price on your web site!!! {Kevin ducks behind his desk} If you have to ask, you can't afford it! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread stephen . russell
> From: "Adam Buckland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Why not show the Vietnamese napalmed instead. > > There isn't a link between 911 and Iraq, and whilst you know it you keep > trying to draw one... If he says it often enough in toady's society it may become true? Bad Steve. __

RE: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:52 AM Kevin Cully wrote: >That's one of my pet peeves about Dabo too! You're making it very hard to find the >price on your web site!!! Silly, that is because it is still in beta! Watch out when it gets release and the price jumps! 8-) David L. Crooks

[FWD: Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released]

2006-06-20 Thread stephen . russell
> From: Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, June 20, 2006 5:45 am > To: profox@leafe.com > > Oops. I forgot to include the URL: > http://www.recital.com/ As I was reading the text I thought that I saw a couple mounting one another in the upper right corner of the page. So Kevin use tha

[NF] Free "Picture" books

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
An interesting pitch. The folks at Visibooks are giving away free e-books (screen resolution PDFs, print-resolution costs a few dollars, printed book a few more) for a short time as a promotion. These are books light on text but heavy on screenshots if you're interested in taking a look at how som

Re: [NF] Recital 9.3 and Recital Visual Developer 2.0 released

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Cully
I'm guessing that the price will jump 1,000% when it comes out of beta testing!!! Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net David Crooks wrote: Silly, that is because it is still in beta! Watch out when it gets release and the price jumps! 8-)

RE: [OT] There is no war in Iraq

2006-06-20 Thread Bob Calco
It must be nice to know you can change definitions and positions whenever it suits you and you can always hide behind otherwise well-meaning folks like Dominic when challenged. But here goes anyway. When the President declared "Mission Accomplished" to the military back in 2003 it was the media a

RE: [NF] Free "Picture" books

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Crozier
Ted, Excellent Resource - well found! Dave Crozier "A computer is a stupid machine with the ability to do incredibly smart things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match" - Bill Bryson Ted Roche wrote:

[OT] Coulter and Godless?

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Russell
Words she could listen to. >From the meditation "What makes Christians different from others and what makes Christianity distinct from any other religion? It is grace - treating others, not as they deserve, but as God wishes them to be treated - with lov

RE: [OT] Images of war

2006-06-20 Thread Dominic Burford
<< toady's And which toad would that be? Bad Dominic. Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so sim

[NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog000245.html An older article, but still a goodie, imo. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" __

Re: [Fwd: [NF]: Unsnarl Windows Genuine Advantage validation process]

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Tristan Leask wrote: Funny thing is though, I have specifically told windows update to not install this patch, yet windows is still pulling down all the latest patches. Sounds like you've got Windows Update set to Download but ask to Install...which sounds like what it's doing, so even tho

RE: [Fwd: [NF]: Unsnarl Windows Genuine Advantage validation process]

2006-06-20 Thread Tristan Leask
I have set the PC to download automatically and then once they are ready, to prompt me. A while back I noticed the WGA patch and said 'don't you dare, and don't ask me again'. I'm not too fussed about the machine downloading the patches and then asking because they are relatively small. I am jus

Re: [OT] There is no war in Iraq

2006-06-20 Thread Leland Jackson
Your spin on the recent History of Iraq is a perverted distortion. I think the Neo-Cons plans to take out Iraq, Iran, and North Korea were written in granite well before President Bush was elected President in 2000. After President Bush was elected, the US was mislead at every step of the way

Re: [OT] Coulter and Godless?

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: From the meditation "What makes Christians different from others and what makes Christianity distinct from any other religion? It is grace - treating others, not as they deserve, but as God wishes them to be treated - with loving-kindness

Re: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
MB Software Solutions wrote: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog000245.html An older article, but still a goodie, imo. From the article, particularly of note since we were talking about Vista and code re-use: "Partially, this is because they made the suicidal mistake of throwing

RE: [OT] Coulter and Godless?

2006-06-20 Thread stephen . russell
> From: Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, June 20, 2006 8:32 am > To: ProFox Email List > > On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > > > From the meditation "What makes Christians different from others and > > what makes Christianity distinct from any other religion? It is

RE: [OT] Bush ahead of schedule to halve the deficit by 2009

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
Who calculates these numbers? Who audits them? How do we know they are not Enron'ed? I am serious about this. There is a lot of talk about strong economy and assorted positive aspects, but tell the truth, have you experienced them? I mean like unemployment is down (or so they say). Are they

RE: [OT] Not enough police in New Orleans?

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
There is a formula for this. It is based on population, crime rate, number of guns available to the police and number of bullets. If you cannot preserve peace with your current quantities-on-hand, then you need to increase your inventory. It was all laid out in the Microsoft Dynamics brochure. :

[NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Davis
I have been asked to look at this product by a customer. Anyone have any opinions on it? www.filemaker.co.uk TIA Chris. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___

VFP Organiser Release 2

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Crozier
For all you interested I've just uploaded a new version of the VFP Organiser with Drag/Drop capabilities: More information at: http://www.replacement-software.co.uk/blog with download at: http://www.replacement-software.co.uk/VFPOrg/VFP_Organiser.zip Read the Readme file. Dave Crozier "A com

Re: [NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Chris Davis wrote: I have been asked to look at this product by a customer. Anyone have any opinions on it? Like Access, but more polished and powerful. Also runs on Macs and Windows. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com __

RE: [OT] Wind power in Atlantic City

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
I wonder how much involvement "Babcock and Brown" had with the "Turbine Erection"? HAL in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 14:46 To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] Wind power in Atlantic City

RE: [NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
According to PC Magazine, it's been the absolute best database program around for the last 5 years. HALinNY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Davis Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 08:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] FileMaker I ha

Re: [WC] Argentina

2006-06-20 Thread Zdravko Subakov
Well, I have to respond after a few days being in shock :-) I am from Serbia and after good performance and unfortunate loss 0:1 to Netherlands we all hoped this game will show how good we are What a shame..Argentina was so much better and stronger that I could only watch as we are beaten

RE: [NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Rick Schummer
Not impressed. I saw a demo of it by a "FileMaker MVP" and the presentation was horrible. The product seems to be less flexible than MS Access in many ways and more powerful in some. It is pretty self contained and when I asked about programming/scripting capabilities I was told it is an end user

[NF] Is MySpace at fault?

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Russell
Is it the vendors responsibility to VALIDATE the age of the user? I hear our customer support gals talk to parents all the time about the child taking the parents checking account info and using it for online porn. Probably 20-50 pissed o

Re: [OT] Bush ahead of schedule to halve the deficit by 2009

2006-06-20 Thread Profox
Who calculates these numbers? Who audits them? How do we know they are not Enron'ed? I am serious about this. There is a lot of talk about strong economy and assorted positive aspects, but tell the truth, have you experienced them? I mean like unemployment is down (or so they say). Are

RE: [NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Francis (net)
The only 'run in' I've had is trying to import data from it into a commercial application we have out there. A real PITA. Had to go out an purchase the product just to get the data out. Francis I. Coppage, Jr. "Data! Data! Data! I need data! I can't make bricks with out clay!" -- Sherlock Ho

Re: [NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Rick Schummer wrote: It is pretty self contained and when I asked about programming/ scripting capabilities I was told it is an end user tool, not designed for programmers. I don't know if it really can be programmed, but if someone with this much clout with the

Re: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 6/20/06, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So perhaps M$ was using this as a reason why they didn't start from scratch? (I guess for an OS it just would take too long to develop from scratch, as Ted noted.) I don't think MSFT ever claimed they were starting from scratch. T

Re: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Perhaps it would have been better to start from scratch. Or perhaps it would have been better to start with something that has been around for a while and has been proven solid, and then adding the Windows/Vista API and UI on top of it. That w

[NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
http://mshiltonj.com/software_wars/current/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless exp

Re: [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 07:04 PM 6/19/2006 -0500, jeff wrote: At 12:14 PM 6/19/2006, you wrote: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060615.html ... seat of his car with fast food wrappers. So Bill has to go, because as an icon, he's great, but as a manager, he sucks." How does someone go from starting a

RE: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
Kewl! I have a question though: I recognize the Penguin and the Billingsgate, but who is the horned creature? What is it and what does it represent? And why? TIA! HALinNY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Tues

RE: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:59 PM Whil Hentzen wrote: >http://mshiltonj.com/software_wars/current/ Some people have too much time on their hands! David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mai

RE: [NF] Cringely roasts Bill

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
And this is nothing new. All the Industrial Revolution moguls supposedly did it (or had it done for them) and that "game" is going to be played well into the future because, presumably, you have to make your own breaks. Nevertheless, I do not condone it. HALinNY -Original Message- From

RE: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:06 PM Hal Kaplan wrote: >Kewl! I have a question though: I recognize the Penguin and the Billingsgate, but who >is the horned creature? What is it and what does it represent? And why? TIA! http://www.gnu.org/ David L. Crooks _

RE: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
Duh! And thanks, David. Being from the city I don't get too many opportunities to see gnus, but when my children were younger we always watched Gary Gnu's Gnews on TV. HALinNY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Crooks Sent: Tuesday, J

RE: [NF] FileMaker

2006-06-20 Thread Dave Crozier
Chris, I've just popped you a person email with someone's contact details who may well be of assistance. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Davis Sent: 20 June 2006 13:24 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] FileMaker I have

RE: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:24 PM Hal Kaplan wrote: >Duh! And thanks, David. Being from the city I don't get too many opportunities to see >gnus, but when my children were younger we always watched Gary Gnu's Gnews on TV. I don't see any gnus either. >From the website: "The GNU Project was l

[OT] Brits and their sex news stories

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
While perusing another Register link posted by someone about a MySpace lawsuit, I saw several other links and had a good laugh after reading some of them. Here's one: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/02/christian_shop/ You Brits sure are open (and funny!) about sex (moreso than our media

Re: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Hal Kaplan wrote: Duh! And thanks, David. Being from the city I don't get too many opportunities to see gnus, but when my children were younger we always watched Gary Gnu's Gnews on TV. Wasn't he on "The New Zoo Review" ?? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mb

Transitioning from VFP backend to MySQL

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
I'm putting new functionality into some software that started using VFP (and still does primarily) as the backend, but for these new things I'm creating the tables in a MySQL database. I'm aware of some caveats of doing this (like synchronization, and as such, I'm avoiding it where this would

Re: Transitioning from VFP backend to MySQL

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
Two sentences, 31 words and 46 words, respectively, not expanding contractions. MB: Take a deep breath. Talk slowly. Small sentences. What caveats? Using MySQL means you don't have to pack, it's easier to delete and insert than to reckon what's changed and mix delete/insert/update logic, that

Re: [OT] Brits and their sex news stories

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 2:36 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: You Brits sure are open (and funny!) about sex (moreso than our media over here)! Hey, we're such prudes that we can't even say the word 'sex' anymore, even when we aren't referring to intercourse. It's now been

Re: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 6/20/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... wonder if anyone has done anything like that before? My Amiga did that. Nah, I'd prefer a clean start, like Haiku. Another 10 years or so, and they will have an awesome OS, ready to meet the challenges of the 1990s. I think MSFT could do we

Re: Transitioning from VFP backend to MySQL

2006-06-20 Thread Steve Ellenoff
Ted - Can you clarify what you mean about it being easier to detect what's changed via insert/delete as you mention here? I'm a bit confused.. maybe an actual example of some code would clarify what you mean? I'm planning on moving to mysql in the near future too, so am curious as well. Th

Re: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: Nah, I'd prefer a clean start, like Haiku. Another 10 years or so, and they will have an awesome OS, ready to meet the challenges of the 1990s. I think MSFT could do well to follow them... Well, no one said it was a perfect world. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software So

Re: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread Leland Jackson
LOL. If I were Bill Gates, I would have retire a long time ago. It must be tough being the Maharajah of the Software Industry, knowing you have to get up every morning and go out and wipe the world one more time. Regards, LelandJ Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: http://mshiltonj.com/software_wa

Re: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread Leland Jackson
Whoops, I should have said "whip" instead of "wipe". Still LOL. Regards, LelandJ Leland Jackson wrote: LOL. If I were Bill Gates, I would have retire a long time ago. It must be tough being the Maharajah of the Software Industry, knowing you have to get up every morning and go out and wip

Re: Transitioning from VFP backend to MySQL

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
On 6/20/06, Steve Ellenoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can you clarify what you mean about it being easier to detect what's changed via insert/delete as you mention here? I'm a bit confused.. maybe an actual example of some code would clarify what you mean? I'm planning on moving to mysql in the

Re: Transitioning from VFP backend to MySQL

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: Two sentences, 31 words and 46 words, respectively, not expanding contractions. MB: Take a deep breath. Talk slowly. Small sentences. Brevity was always a challenge for me. Bill and I perhaps share that in common. What caveats? Using MySQL means you don't have to p

Re: Transitioning from VFP backend to MySQL

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: In MySQL (and every other data engine without the RECALL command), PACKing is rarely if ever needed, so you can DELETE the whole batch of fred2types M:M records and create a new set without concern. The only concern would be if there are sibling or child records elsewhere

RE: [NF] The battle in color

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
Why, yes, it was! How do you remember such things? HALinNY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 14:44 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] The battle in color Hal Kaplan wrote: >Duh! And

RE: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
Uh uh. Not true. Dr. Panglos said it ... Many times. HALinNY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 15:20 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Painless Software Schedules Ted Roche wrote:

RE: [NF] Painless Software Schedules

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
Joel is usually pretty good at these things; he certainly is no dummy. I have to disagree though. My experience has been that you usually do not have the time to do all the things he suggests in order to make your schedule. And it's a catch-22. The more you know about your project, the easier it

Re: [OT] Brits and their sex news stories

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jun 20, 2006, at 2:36 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: You Brits sure are open (and funny!) about sex (moreso than our media over here)! Hey, we're such prudes that we can't even say the word 'sex' anymore, even when we aren't referring to interco

Re: [OT] Bush ahead of schedule to halve the deficit by 2009

2006-06-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Profox wrote: You can always count on the RepubliCONS LOL!! Never heard that one before, Jim!!! Funny! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http

RE: [OT] Brits and their sex news stories

2006-06-20 Thread Hal Kaplan
It is politically incorrect to use the term "politically correct." The term you are looking for is least-common-denominator-everything-black-or-white-stupidity. HALinNY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Accoun

Re: [OT] Brits and their sex news stories

2006-06-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 20, 2006, at 3:52 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: More "Politically Correct" crap gone amuck? No, I think it's just a reflection of the general prudishness of the USA. You can show a man with his belly ripped open and his guts pouring out, and that's OK, but show

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