RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
> Yes, this is definitely good to see computer memory so cheep. There is > a down side to this I fear, though. The 32 bit software and Os(s) would > only address 4G memory max, because that is the biggest integer possible > in a 32 bit binary system. The 64 bit processor can address > expone

RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Mike, > The thing with ram though is that you need to make sure that > it is fast ram, or have a lot of it will not speed things up. > Having 10 GB of DDR PC2700 won't be as fast as 3 GB of DDR3 > PC 6700. RAM's power is in reducing or eliminating I/O, so the more there is of it, the more eff

RE: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-20 Thread Rick Schummer
>> But where's the accountability? "John Dough over in authorized us to spend $75,000 on this video." ??<< Funny punster (Dough instead of Doe), Mike. Accountability to who? First of all, you need to work in a large company to understand accountability such as this. Each enti

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Ken Dibble
>http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA22828 > >http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA22828 > >http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewproduct.asp?PID=CPU-PHENOM&updepts=CPU&DNAME=Processors+%2D+CPU Thanks very much Leland. This looks very promising! Ken www.stic-cil.org _

RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Mike Wohlrab
The thing with ram though is that you need to make sure that it is fast ram, or have a lot of it will not speed things up. Having 10 GB of DDR PC2700 won't be as fast as 3 GB of DDR3 PC 6700. But yes, the price of ram has come down and with a powerful enough CPU and 2.5 times the amount of ram you

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Bill Arnold wrote: > Leland, > > I can't speak knowledgably about gaming because I have no experience in > that area, but these loosely related thoughts came to mind, so ... > > When I heard of the $10/gb RAM purchase last week, I thought "that's > just amazing", and given the history of hardware

Re: Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFPmarketing)

2008-04-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
kam wrote: > Hey Malcolm, > > There are many people on this list (including me) that plan to do the same > thing you are doing. > > It would be nice if there was a translator. I probably would not use it for > production code because translators are always (my > experience) sloppy code, but I wo

Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: > I am not saying this was an intended spoof or not, but I can say I > have seen Microsoft spend money > to create videos that were more costly than 50K just in the time Bill Gates > was on screen (not > including all the outtakes). They do like to do these types of things an

Re: [NF] How can you *not* want Vista after this? follow-up:

2008-04-20 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Kenneth Kixmoeller wrote: > If you believe it: > > http://tinyurl.com/6krlyl > > and > > http://tinyurl.com/6qdffl > > Hm... If true, how is it that they can spend money this way? Not > sure I believe it. > Exactlyyou'd think the stockholders would have a legitimate gripe. They'd sa

Re: [OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 20 April 2008 18:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >My daughter was raised with no religion or believe, it was up > >to her to decide when she became of age. She is 25 years old and > >very happy because she is free of this religion shit. > > So you've taught her your disbelief... big deal.

Re: [OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 20 April 2008 16:20, Eurico Chagas Filho wrote: > Hi > > They were old friends ? > They used to hold hands watching the sunset ? > > My daughter was raised with no religion or believe, it was up > to her to decide when she became of age. She is 25 years old and > very happy because she is

Re: [OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread richmondeagle
>My daughter was raised with no religion or believe, it was up >to her to decide when she became of age. She is 25 years old and >very happy because she is free of this religion shit. So you've taught her your disbelief... big deal. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts -

Re: [OT] Will he be looking for a new job?

2008-04-20 Thread richmondeagle
>What you can take from this article isn't that Global >Warming is real or imaginary, just that Kerry Emanuel >isn't worth listening to anymore. Well, he doesn't see it as responsible for the hurricanes, etc. He is committing the heresey of questioning the models that project it. This can be f

RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Jeff, My actual experience with VM was in the IBM world, and in that context we could run any OS under VM, even VM (again). So, my expectation is that VM in the PC world can do similarly and that you shouldn't have any problem running any of the OS's you choose to in a VM environment - that the on

RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Leland, I can't speak knowledgably about gaming because I have no experience in that area, but these loosely related thoughts came to mind, so ... When I heard of the $10/gb RAM purchase last week, I thought "that's just amazing", and given the history of hardware trajectories, we may well see t

[NF] Magic Jack review

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Madigan
My magic jack arrived in the mail yesterday. So far so good. 1. You get a choice of a number from a nearby town, but you may not get a phone number in your local town. This isn't a problem for me. 2. The calling screen is minimizable, so you can talk on the phone and work on the computer at

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Jeff Johnson
Bill: Excuse me for not reading all of the previous posts as I have been outdoors enjoying the weekend. I have two dual boot machines. Ubuntu/XP and Ubuntu/Vista. I also use Virtual Box on my Ubuntu machines for testing installs, etc. Virtualization in Ubuntu using Virtual Box is awesome!

Re: Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFP marketing)

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Madigan
I like the idea of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" model. I still do development in Fox 2.6 and VFP 7.0 and don't see any reason to change that for old programs. For brand new development of course, but not old applications. --- Malcolm Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bill, > >

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I once wrote a termcap file for an SCO unix OS, (eg a kind of device driver) to interface with a Wyse 50+ monitor. After writing the termcap file, I could use all of the Wyse 50+ monitor features with my wordstar application, like highlighting searched text, for example. It was simply a matte

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Bill Arnold wrote: > Hi Leland, > > Gaming may be an exception because I understand some such programs > bypass the OS and API's and go directly to the hardware (I guess that's > what you're talking about) So fare as most motherboards, video card, network card, sound cards, etc, are concerned, a

RE: [OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
hi Michael Your god is only love, isn't he ? So, she will be admitted and who knows she so pretty that perhaps it is time for your god to get a woman, hum ? Cheers, E. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 18-Apr

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Gamers are a special breed, and to them the holy grail is the fastest computer. Gamers don't mind spending big bucks for even small increases in spread, even though it makes each additional small increment in speed/power more and more expensive. I think VMware will degrade performance on the g

RE: [OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Madigan
She's also free of the Kindom of Heaven. Good parenting! --- Eurico Chagas Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > They were old friends ? > They used to hold hands watching the sunset ? > > My daughter was raised with no religion or believe, > it was up > to her to decide when she becam

RE: [OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Hi They were old friends ? They used to hold hands watching the sunset ? My daughter was raised with no religion or believe, it was up to her to decide when she became of age. She is 25 years old and very happy because she is free of this religion shit. HTH, E. No virus found in this outgoing

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread richmondeagle
>> Of course, no bible publisher would slant translations to pander to >> Christians with simplistic beliefs to reflect what they *wish* the >> bible said, rather than what scholars say that the words *actually* say. >Hi Ken! >There are whole churches who maintain that the KJV is the only "correc

Re: [OT] Will he be looking for a new job?

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Madigan
What you can take from this article isn't that Global Warming is real or imaginary, just that Kerry Emanuel isn't worth listening to anymore. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > from Newsmax.com > > Hurricane Expert Reconsiders Global Warming Link > Prominent MIT hurricane scientist Kerry Emanuel

Re: [OT] Will he be looking for a new job?

2008-04-20 Thread richmondeagle
from Newsmax.com Hurricane Expert Reconsiders Global Warming Link Prominent MIT hurricane scientist Kerry Emanuel has publicly reversed his view regarding global warming's alleged impact on hurricanes. “The [computer] models are telling us something quite different from what nature seems to be

RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Hi Leland, Gaming may be an exception because I understand some such programs bypass the OS and API's and go directly to the hardware (I guess that's what you're talking about), but as a Big General Rule, computer performance 'degradation' is a function of physical I/O with devices, usually manage

Re: Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFPmarketing)

2008-04-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:57 PM, kam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Like you, I think almost everything could be done in python instead of using > dll/ocx components with the stupid requirement to > 'register' them. I wonder what idiot at Microsoft thought up that nonsense? > Actually, it was t

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Carl, > Point # 3: as the universe of available VFP talent pool > shrinks, businesses that are running FPD/FPW/VFP applications > still need coverage, so what happens? > > (a) work gets harder to find, but ... > (b) the price goes up > > > Back in the early 80's I worked in a hospital that w

Re: [NF] Do you use MySQL? Are you sure?

2008-04-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Pablo Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stoked = surprised? > Excited and pleased! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: h

Re: Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFPmarketing)

2008-04-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 20, 2008, at 2:57 PM, kam wrote: > It would be nice if there was a translator. I probably would not use > it for production code because translators are always (my > experience) sloppy code, but I would like to see the Python code > that does a function similar to vfp. The prob

Re: Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFPmarketing)

2008-04-20 Thread kam
Hey Malcolm, There are many people on this list (including me) that plan to do the same thing you are doing. It would be nice if there was a translator. I probably would not use it for production code because translators are always (my experience) sloppy code, but I would like to see the Pytho

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Yes, that had occurred to me. A VM is not the best choice on which to run games. Windows is still ahead of Linux at this point as a gaming OS; although, I haven't seen any benchmark/comparison. It is my understanding that the windows NVIDIA driver is more mature for SLI, etc, than is the Lin

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 20 April 2008 13:55, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: > > There are whole churches who maintain that the KJV is the only > > "correct" translation. > > People like what is familiar. THE KJV is a pretty lousy version of > the bible, if your main criterion is to come as close as possible to > t

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-20 Thread Carl Lindner
Bill, Point # 3: as the universe of available VFP talent pool shrinks, businesses that are running FPD/FPW/VFP applications still need coverage, so what happens? (a) work gets harder to find, but ... (b) the price goes up Back in the early 80's I worked in a hospital that was envied for their "

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Madigan
Kind of like the Global Warming believers. --- Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nevertheless, simpletons insist that it is *the* > Bible, just as they > embrace certain passages and reject others only to > reinforce what > they wish the bible to say.

Re:

2008-04-20 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
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Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
> There are whole churches who maintain that the KJV is the only > "correct" > translation. People like what is familiar. THE KJV is a pretty lousy version of the bible, if your main criterion is to come as close as possible to the original texts. KJV was based mostly on the Latin Vulgate. This h

RE: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
I don't understand the interest or need for dual boot at all when VM is readily available and the cost of RAM is almost negligible (my brother just bought a gig for $10). It's easy to imagine that near future OS's will (by market demand) include VM built-in. Bill _

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2008-04-20 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
> There are whole churches who maintain that the KJV is the only > "correct" > translation. People like what is familiar. THE KJV is a pretty lousy version of the bible, if your main criterion is to come as close as possible to the original texts. KJV was based mostly on the Latin Vulgate. T

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-20 Thread Allen
Hi Bill I afraid you may have missed my situation. I write applications, not do work in VFP. It is those application that are being hit by idiots that listen to M$ "use net" talk. And I can no longer fight it. As for DLL, yes indeed as I mentioned I have already done that. C# feeding a vfp dll. It

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Hi Allen, > Believe me Bill I don't want to throw years of VFP knowledge > down the drain. Im still undecided on a new project which > will be a web based rental. I may do the same as another web > service project and have c# call the VFP dll. That works well. After writing last night, I jot

RE: Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFPmarketing)

2008-04-20 Thread Bill Arnold
Hi Malcolm, I appreciate your input, as always. I don't dispute the value/usefulness of Python/Dabo, but since day 1 of my excursion into the PC world it's been investment on top of investment, so for the near term I'm on mission to recover investment before seriously considering any option. And

[OT] Explaining Genesis to kids

2008-04-20 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody! Suppose you are reading Genesis 4 to a pre-school child. How do you prepare for the question, "What does 'knew his wife' mean?", assuming that you don't want to do the birds and bees discussion to a four year old? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ __

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 20 April 2008 11:27, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: > > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014:26;&version=65; > > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014:26;&version=51; > > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014:26;&version=46; > > http://www.b

Porting VFP apps to other languages - how big a deal? (was RE: VFP marketing)

2008-04-20 Thread Malcolm Greene
Hi Bill, Like you, I sell a suite of proprietary products built on a huge code base of FPD, FPW, and VFP code. At the moment I'm aggressively studying Python as an alternative to VFP. While I haven't started to port any of my code yet, I'm beginning to think that porting my code base may not be t

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
> That passage is variously translated, some of these soften it quite > a bit: > > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014:26;&version=65; > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014:26;&version=51; > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke%2014:26;&version=46;

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
You can download the NVIDIA driver that supports SLI from the following link: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html Retards, LelandJ Ken Dibble wrote: >> http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/wishlist/wishlist.asp?WishId=48B28B1D-8088-4333-A312-501EE395BEBA&&SRCCODE=WEBWIS

RE: [NF] Do you use MySQL? Are you sure?

2008-04-20 Thread Pablo Rivera
Stoked = surprised? Kindest regards. PabloSr * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche * Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:15 AM * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: [NF] Do you use MySQL? Are you sure? * [SNIP] * "Aft

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Below is a link to a page on the AMD quad core. Also, click on the video link in the page for more information: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3740794&Sku=CP1-AM2-9850&SRCCODE=WEBGOOCPU1&CMP=KNC-GOOGL or http://tinyurl.com/5c4bez Regards, LelandJ

Re: Dual Boot Desktop Machine Recommendations

2008-04-20 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I think it is just the standard disclaimer, as almost all motherboard will run Linux or Windows 2000. Below is a link to a similar motherboard on mwave.com. The following comments are from the reviews: a) The only (minor) problem I have is that at boot time, I have to add the noapic paramete

[NF] Do you use MySQL? Are you sure?

2008-04-20 Thread Ted Roche
>From Jonathan's Schwartz's (Sun CEO) blog, meeting with a corporate client: "We had just closed the acquisition of MySQL, so before I wrapped up, I asked, "And would you like a quick update on the newest addition to our family, MySQL?" "The CIO responded categorically with "we don't run MySQL, w

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 20, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Sounds like every Opens Source Mantra statement read here over the > past few > years. > > If any one comes to "OPEN SOURCE" and does not hate his "OLD OPERATING > SYSTEM" and "ALL OLD PROGRAMS" and "GAMES" and "Business > Applications" , >

Re: [OT] Jesus is a Hater

2008-04-20 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...well, that's how he would be pegged by Fox News if he was around > today. Imagine if they had used their practice of taking sound bites > out of context and playing them over and over, and used that with this > gem:

Re: [NF] Didn't know Mr. Hale was so despised

2008-04-20 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Bill Arnold < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I sorry but Im not. It has happened to me already. > > Competitors telling possible userts that its written in a > > dead language. Yes they work, will work for ages but it's > > another matter someone using the facts

Re: [NF] Amazing Gmail Feature that could make your life easier

2008-04-20 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Gil Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Even when you understand a concept, having to formulate an > > explanation of it in a way that lay people and newbies can understand > > it, too, deepens your understanding of that concept or practice > > profoundly. > > >

RE: VFP marketing

2008-04-20 Thread Allen
Believe me Bill I don’t want to throw years of VFP knowledge down the drain. Im still undecided on a new project which will be a web based rental. I may do the same as another web service project and have c# call the VFP dll. That works well. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECT