FoxPro is alive and well: help wanted

2012-11-11 Thread Wes Wilson
Many of our prospective (and current) customers say:   1. FoxPro is Dead    This is not true.   Whil Hentzen just wrote an outstanding piece named The Business Case for Visual FoxPro in 2013 http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/businesscase.htm.     I highly recommend that you purchase it so

Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Wes Wilson
Kurt, My message has been aimed at those businesses who already have FoxPro. I assume your email relates to a new project. The real question is not how old FoxPro is but whether for this customer with his constraints, is it the best solution. If we gave all of the specifics to 100 seasoned

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Wes Wilson erwweswil...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt, A business person's very first question is always Can I afford this solution?” not Is this the best language?. If he can afford it, the next question is Do I want to put that much of my limited resources into

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread AndyHC
snip Needs are changing fast and VFP is in a frozen state. snip For web interfaces, probably, for desktop apps - no. VFP is good dbf's - not dbc's - maybe if you don't do them already look at remote views, cursoradapters, scatter this VFP will do mySQL, postgreSQL, TSQL, Oracle, ... any ado

RE: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread John Harvey
Needs are not changing that fast. We've known VFP was going to die for several years. You need to be adding more arrows to the quiver, if you haven't already done that, years ago. I think I will be using VFP for years to come, if only for data munging, but as for developing apps, I will continue

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-11 Thread Ted Roche
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Paul Hill paulroberth...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 November 2012 20:13, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: It's STABLE! - unlike DotNet that is constantly churning the right way to do things VFP has established Best Practices. Your investment isn't going

[OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody, http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-141-turnout/ official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results. Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Hello again Wes, I saw you sent me this same email to me offline from this list - but, figured I would make my response. Bad enough I lost my job - now, today - Sunday - in sunny weather - we just lost our power again - along with a lot of our surronding neighbors. So - now I sit on my

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lelandj
On 11/11/2012 10:58 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: Hi Everybody, http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-141-turnout/ official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results. Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The unofficial vote count is

RE: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread John Harvey
PHP -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ VR-FX Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:54 AM To: profox@leafe.com Cc: Wes Wilson Subject: Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro? Hello again Wes, I saw you sent me this same email to me offline from this

RE: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread profox
I started half and half. I went to c# and asp.net because I needed web services that VFP could not handle. But although I own Visual Studio, I did this in the free version which has most the stuff in it. That way I could use my code in VFP as a com dll and use asp.net and c# as the web service.

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On 11/11/2012 01:10 PM, lelandj wrote: http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-141-turnout/ official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results. Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lue543lelo
On 11/11/2012 12:25 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/11/2012 01:10 PM, lelandj wrote: http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-141-turnout/ official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results. Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lelandj
On 11/11/2012 12:25 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/11/2012 01:10 PM, lelandj wrote: http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-141-turnout/ official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results. Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Oke, II
Voter identification of that sort is being fought tooth and nail by certain sectors of the current political regimes. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, lelandj lela...@mail.smvfp.com

RE: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread geoff
Doesnt anyone else find it astonishing that the american voting system is so corrupt and such a shambles? What is needed is FEDERAL over-riding legislation to set up a single electoral body responsible to running every election and setting up effective and non-fraudulent systems like those run in

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
AFAIK - this is a Desktop app - and not web based at all. But, again - my buddy has so far given me VERY Little information! But - I do like the idea that I could use VFP code - and use it WITH C#/.Net - which is definitely a selling point for me. -K- On 11/11/2012 2:24 PM,

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
I have a good buddy of mine - who has been using PHP for YEARS now - and he raves about it - and has suggested that I try developing with it. Now - after going offline after my e-mail earlier today (and - THANK GOD - the Power is BACK on here at home!) - I had thoughts about doing it in Real

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lelandj
On 11/11/2012 02:32 PM, Paul Hill wrote: On 11 November 2012 19:15, lelandj lela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: Just off the top of my head, an internal control might work something like this. The starting point in a voter casting a ballot is registering to vote. Because many people have the same

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lelandj
On 11/11/2012 02:29 PM, Michael Oke wrote: Voter identification of that sort is being fought tooth and nail by certain sectors of the current political regimes. I'm talking about an internal control where a voter would provide proof of eligibility to vote at the point of registration, and

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Oke, II
And again I tell you that anything of this nature is being bashed as harmful. It would disenfranchise certain voters. I personally have no issue with something of this nature being instituted but that would probably require federal intervention. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lelandj
On 11/11/2012 02:32 PM, Paul Hill wrote: On 11 November 2012 19:15, lelandj lela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: Just off the top of my head, an internal control might work something like this. The starting point in a voter casting a ballot is registering to vote. Because many people have the same

Re: [OT] Can't let conservative blacks win

2012-11-11 Thread lelandj
On 11/11/2012 03:39 PM, Michael Oke wrote: And again I tell you that anything of this nature is being bashed as harmful. It would disenfranchise certain voters. I personally have no issue with something of this nature being instituted but that would probably require federal intervention.

[OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
 Those evil Americans and their guns.   http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_BRAZIL_VIOLENCE?SITE=APSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2012-11-10-17-14-56 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On 11/11/2012 05:44 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Those evil Americans and their guns. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_BRAZIL_VIOLENCE?SITE=APSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2012-11-10-17-14-56 Hi Michael, Yep. Bush did it. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/

RE: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread geoff
In that same period of time 2000 Americans died from gunshot. I know you don't accept it and you and Pete want to exclude this that and the other category of gun deaths but it remains true that 50,000 die each year from the wrong end of a gun. and since when did 'they are worse than us' justify

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Sorry, you've been proved wrong on this multiple times.    From: geoff data...@adam.com.au To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:07 PM Subject: RE: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks In that same period of

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On 11/11/2012 07:07 PM, geoff wrote: In that same period of time 2000 Americans died from gunshot. I know you don't accept it and you and Pete want to exclude this that and the other category of gun deaths but it remains true that 50,000 die each year from the wrong end of a gun. Hi Geoff,

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/10/2012 4:13 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Hey Mike, Thanks for the input. I shall try and consider SQL as a backend for the system. Especially since I know so many people here on this mailing list has done Exactly that - using SQL. However, to be truthful - I have very little experience with

Re: The - VFP is Old Tech Complaint...

2012-11-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/10/2012 4:33 PM, M Jarvis wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC Good reasons, but I'd suggest you use a different backend, like MySQL instead of native DBFs. That'll suit you better in the longer run, imo, especially if they live on the web. Well... if

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Dan Covill
On 11/11/12 07:02, AndyHC wrote: VFP is good dbf's - not dbc's - maybe I'd modify that list just a little: VFP is _still_ good dbf's - use a SQL database instead dbc's - never were any good! Dan ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: Do NOT use old FoxPro?

2012-11-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: AFAIK - this is a Desktop app - and not web based at all. But, again - my buddy has so far given me VERY Little information! But - I do like the idea that I could use VFP code - and use it WITH C#/.Net - which is

RE: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread geoff
We had this debate and Im not going to do it again. We went to your own USA official statistics to confirm. You however wanted to use NRA figures and where's the surprise that they are orders of magnitude different? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On 11/11/2012 11:12 PM, geoff wrote: We had this debate and Im not going to do it again. We went to your own USA official statistics to confirm. Fine - post the link! You never did, that's why we googled. You however wanted to use NRA figures and where's the surprise that they are orders of

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Oke, II
2010 numbers from the FBI says 8,775. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 11, 2012, at 8:12 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: We had this debate and Im not going to do it again. We went to your own USA

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Geoff is a slow learner.   We've posted this for him over and over.    From: Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks 2010

RE: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread geoff
The astonishing thing is the 'thats a good result!' response. The ENTIRE gun deaths figures include accidents and suicides. The figure you quote is ONLY homicide. and its only 8-10 times per capita the rate in places like UK and australia. yep... guns really keep you safe!!! -Original

RE: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread geoff
It also doesn't include Florida (do they count ANYTHING???) and ohio. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Monday, 12 November 2012 3:17 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

Re: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in last two weeks

2012-11-11 Thread Michael Madigan
So it's better to kill yourself by hanging or by slitting your wrists than by gunshot.  Gotcha.  - Original Message - From: geoff data...@adam.com.au To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 1:02 AM Subject: RE: [OT] 140 people die in Sao Paulo in

Re: Memo field repair

2012-11-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 11/10/2012 4:10 PM, Dan Covill wrote: On 11/10/12 10:33, Ted Roche wrote: What's the current guidance on memo field repair? Doesn't Doug Hennig's Stonefield Toolkit have some Memo field repair functions in it? I think it salvages pointers, but doesn't fix data. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB