RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Bill Arnold
Michael, Ozzie's CSA and was CTO. Ballmer's CEO. They both answer to the board. Aah, then he perhaps IS the guy who could certainly affect change in the right (whatever that is) direction rather than continuing an angle of the company that perhaps isn't correct (whatever that is)!!

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Alan Bourke
I see many apps moving to technologies like Air and Silverlight, ultimately, which offer a web-based but rich-client-like experience, with the advantage of cross-platform. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Bill Arnold wrote: Michael, I think, for now, the better course of action is just to sell products and see where we stand in 5 or so years. MS is eventually going to have to do something about VFP's continuity, and I think they know that. Best resolution: turn it over to some team that

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Rick Schummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong? Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, Ozzie's CSA and was CTO. Ballmer's CEO. They both answer to the board. Aah, then he perhaps IS the guy who could certainly affect change in the right (whatever that is) direction rather than continuing

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-24 Thread Bill Arnold
Michael, I think, for now, the better course of action is just to sell products and see where we stand in 5 or so years. MS is eventually going to have to do something about VFP's continuity, and I think they know that. Best resolution: turn it over to some team that will take it over

[NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Stephen Russell
Ray says that the world is a changing. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22/the-ozzie-memo —software-is-dead-long-live-the-web/ Would you write software to do the vertical you do for use on the web instead? -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote: Ray says that the world is a changing. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22/the-ozzie-memo —software-is-dead-long-live-the-web/ Would you write software to do the vertical you do for use on the web instead? I'm definitely using a web-based database, with a fat

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Andrew Stirling
Unfortunately, I was unable to see this site from my business machine. When I looked into it, the site wanted to register 13 scripts. I declined to accept them all. Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Stephen Russell wrote: Ray says that

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Andrew Stirling wrote: Unfortunately, I was unable to see this site from my business machine. When I looked into it, the site wanted to register 13 scripts. I declined to accept them all. I don't even see the article! What crap. ___ Post

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Malcolm Greene
Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid word wrap. http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Malcolm Greene wrote: Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid word wrap. http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 Malcolm No no, I fixed his bum link, and it still shows nothing...verified by your good URL above. ___ Post

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Malcolm Greene wrote: Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid word wrap. http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 I just see the ads...no article content. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
Malcolm Greene wrote: Stephen posted a bad URL. Here's a correct URL sent as tinyurl to avoid word wrap. http://tinyurl.com/3zsuu3 Nope, it is still an empty article (Firefox on Mac). Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Malcolm Greene
Strange. It worked for me this morning. (No snide remarks pleaseg) Try this page - the link in question is one of the most recent articles. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22/ Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Paul McNett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, it is still an empty article (Firefox on Mac). Try: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22 and click on The Ozzie Memo -- no, wait, that's broken, too, there's ugly bits in the URL. Try (watch the wrap!)

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Malcolm Greene wrote: Strange. It worked for me this morning. (No snide remarks pleaseg) Try this page - the link in question is one of the most recent articles. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/22/ There was a comment on MyMesh.com about Web 3.0.I didn't realize that Web 2.0 was

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ted Roche wrote: snipped Nothing to see here, move along... I thought Ozzie's memo from 2005 [1] was more insightful, though it's quite dated now. I think the Borg is assimilating him... [1] http://www.scripting.com/disruption/ozzie/theinternetservicesdisruptio.htm Does this come as a

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Does this come as a shock that he or any other Microsoftie toes the company line? After all, that is his livelihood and bread/butter. They're paying the bills. To go against the hand that feeds you is asking to be fired and potentially having

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote: MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Does this come as a shock that he or any other Microsoftie toes the company line? After all, that is his livelihood and bread/butter. They're paying the bills. To go against the hand that feeds you is asking to be fired and

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:35 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this come as a shock that he or any other Microsoftie toes the company line? After all, that is his livelihood and bread/butter. They're paying the bills. To go against the hand that feeds

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
Calvin could do virtually anything with VFP I'm sure, but the powers above him said enoughno more on that product...start working your wonders in DotNet instead. Or you could say he took an opportunity to work on something that was not a 20-year old codebase, and work on something

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong? Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at Microsoft. I have not met a single yes-person, and in fact, I can say most of the

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ted Roche wrote: Ray Ozzie (http://www.crunchbase.com/person/ray-ozzie) holds the position of Chief Software Architect, Bill Gates former position, is an Officer of the company and answers to shareholders and the board. He's also had a couple of successful ventures (Notes, Groove) that don't

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong? Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at Microsoft. I have not met a single yes-person, and in

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote: Rick Schummer wrote: Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong? Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people at Microsoft. I have not met a single

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: Calvin could do virtually anything with VFP I'm sure, but the powers above him said enoughno more on that product...start working your wonders in DotNet instead. Or you could say he took an opportunity to work on something that was not a 20-year old codebase, and

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Paul McNett wrote: Rick Schummer wrote: Is that why Microsoft is so lackluster? They are merely an army of yes-people that aren't going to speak up if they see something wrong? Paul, you and I have obviously must have met or know different people

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
How's thatclear now? Sure, so did you get a chance to take your happy pill? gdr Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Rick Schummer
I was mostly trying to slap MB's insinuation that Microsoft is an army of drones, not agree with him. Sorry Paul, I obviously missed your sarcasm. Poor grumpy MB, getting smacked around this evening. g Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote: I was mostly trying to slap MB's insinuation that Microsoft is an army of drones, not agree with him. Sorry Paul, I obviously missed your sarcasm. Poor grumpy MB, getting smacked around this evening. g Well, I also got to call MS 'so lackluster'. How could I miss

Re: [NF] Do you see apps moving to the web/cloud as positive?

2008-04-23 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: I was mostly trying to slap MB's insinuation that Microsoft is an army of drones, not agree with him. Sorry Paul, I obviously missed your sarcasm. Poor grumpy MB, getting smacked around this evening. g Oh no pity neededI deserved that for being ambiguous at