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-It is all in the past dude. You are worse that a woman at having tobe right and get the last word.-It's a habit I've acquired over the past few years: I do actually like to know the truth. I realize that may sound foreign to a MS fan, but any professional in a technical field who doesn'

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John Weller wrote: > Come on guys - this is getting offensive and definitely not techie! Go OT > if you want a flame war. > > John Weller > 01380 723235 > 07976 393631 > You're right. Sorry. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Mai

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mailto:profoxtech- > boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:07 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office > > > What kind of open source blackberry are you using, I&

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What kind of open source blackberry are you using, I'm going blind reading your post. LOL * --- On Wed, 4/15/09, vzer7...@verizon.net wrote: > From: vzer7...@verizon.net > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [NF] Re: When will I lear

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, wrote: > Apr 15, 2009 11:52:02 AM, profox@leafe.com wrote:On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at > 10:00 AM, wrote:> I Charlie - It is all in the past dude. You are worse that a woman at having to be right and get the last word. I thought that I said I had some posit

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oun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech- > boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of vzer7...@verizon.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:25 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office > > Apr 15, 2009 11:52:02 AM, profox@leafe.com wrote:On Wed,

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Apr 15, 2009 11:52:02 AM, profox@leafe.com wrote:On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM, wrote:> I imagine you were trying to convert an existing MS Office macro. As far as I know, of the 10's of thousands of macros programmed/recorded in OO that I've heard of, seen, used, etc, there are no errors at

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On Wed, April 15, 2009 10:32 am, Stephen Russell wrote: > I put OO on my son's notebook and his gf's as well. They just have to > do papers for school so it is fine for them. -- I had put OO on my home computer years ago for my daughter and (now ex-)wife for the same purpose. Both bitched (for

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > I imagine you were trying to convert an existing MS Office macro. As far as I > know, of the 10's of thousands of macros programmed/recorded in OO that I've > heard of, seen, used, etc, there are no errors at all (which is actually a > better track r

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>>It would seem so, but why don't they put it back in? Can it really be > >>that hard?? > > > All my recommendations push people to OpenOffice. It supports DBFs > wonderfully. And, once the folks get their hands on OO, they are likely to > drop MS Office eventually. Just recently

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > > > > Apr 15, 2009 09:15:07 AM, profox@leafe.com wrote: > Alan Bourke wrote: >> All software companies do this from time to time. On one hand they have >> people complaining about apps becoming more bloated, so what do you do? >> Take out what you conside

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Apr 15, 2009 09:15:07 AM, profox@leafe.com wrote: Alan Bourke wrote: > All software companies do this from time to time. On one hand they have > people complaining about apps becoming more bloated, so what do you do? > Take out what you consider to be little-used functionality. Of course > this

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Alan Bourke wrote: > All software companies do this from time to time. On one hand they have > people complaining about apps becoming more bloated, so what do you do? > Take out what you consider to be little-used functionality. Of course > this one has bit MS on the ass because it turns out quite

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Vince Teachout wrote: > Gil Hale RR wrote: >> Same here re: use of .csv file format. Clean, simple, no bloat as with >> larger XML files. > > CSV works great, except for memo fields. One of my clients is in Risk > Management, which requires a lot of narrative (memo). How do you get > around that

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Ken Kixmoeller/fh wrote: > It is a good point, but not always that simple. > > My long-term customers have taken it that way just fine. In this > case, this is a small customer for which this was a first little > project. They have one or two other software vendors with which they > have much more

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Sytze de Boer wrote: > There's one thing I don't understand in all this. > You are a programmer and wrote a module that worked for your client. > They changed the environment (upgraded Office) > So you get another job and opportunity to charge again. Simple. > What's the complaint > Many would th

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ent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:43 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office > > Gil Hale RR wrote: > > Same here re: use of .csv file format. Clean, simple, no bloat as > with > > larger XML files. > > CSV works great

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Come on guys - this is getting offensive and definitely not techie! Go OT if you want a flame war. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > I got a question about MicroShit business practices. > Do you get payed by the hour or on a per mail basis? > __

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Stephen Russell wrote: > > Wasn't it always listed as dBase3 or dBase4 file type? They never > even took possession of their own name. > > I wonder if you could take it back to Access instead of dbf? > I got a question about MicroShit business practices. Do you get payed by the hour or on a per

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On Tue, 4/14/09, Sytze de Boer wrote: > From: Sytze de Boer > Subject: Re: [NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office > To: profox@leafe.com > Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:52 PM > There's one thing I don't understand > in all this. > You are a programmer an

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On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: > So you get another job and opportunity to charge again. Simple. > What's the complaint? It is a good point, but not always that simple. My long-term customers have taken it that way just fine. In this case, this is a small customer for which

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There's one thing I don't understand in all this. You are a programmer and wrote a module that worked for your client. They changed the environment (upgraded Office) So you get another job and opportunity to charge again. Simple. What's the complaint -- Regards Sytze de Boer Kiss Systems Hamilton

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Gil Hale RR wrote: > Same here re: use of .csv file format. Clean, simple, no bloat as with > larger XML files. CSV works great, except for memo fields. One of my clients is in Risk Management, which requires a lot of narrative (memo). How do you get around that, if you export to dbf? Access

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xt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office > > > I've re-written some programs to use csv files instead of proprietary > files because of these very issues. I've also gone to using Blat > instead of outlook automation. > &g

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> > Wasn't it always listed as dBase3 or dBase4 file type? They never > even took possession of their own name. Yes, becasue it created those format files which VFP happens to open. > > I wonder if you could take it back to Access instead of dbf? That's the recommended workaround, yep. --

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But wait! Then he might hit the OpenOffice issue where it used to save to PDB (Palm Doc) format, but then that got taken out in a later version! Dammit, you can't win in this game! All software companies do this from time to time. On one hand they have people complaining about apps becoming mor

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I've re-written some programs to use csv files instead of proprietary files because of these very issues. I've also gone to using Blat instead of outlook automation. --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Stephen Russell wrote: > From: Stephen Russell > Subject: Re: [NF] Re: When will I

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > > Some people whine too much about Microsoft.  If you don't want Microsoft > problems, stop creating solutions using Microsoft products. > Or understand the problems and leverage that as potential new revenue

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Some people whine too much about Microsoft. If you don't want Microsoft problems, stop creating solutions using Microsoft products. --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Stephen Russell wrote: > From: Stephen Russell > Subject: Re: [NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office > To: &quo

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ken Kixmoeller/fh wrote: > I know it has been said many times, many ways, but __stephen, you > protest *WAY* too much whenever anybody says *anything* negative > about M$. --- Just for grins here:

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On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:41 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: >> how big are the XML files anyway? in kb or megs I am asking. >> >> Is there a change in layout from last years files to todays? > > > No, I think he's justifiably upset because there was no need to > take the > DBF

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: > On Tue, April 14, 2009 2:36 pm, Stephen Russell wrote: >> So you are upset that as a computer professional you were caught off >> guard that a major application used worldwide changed 2 years ago in >> particular worki

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On Tue, April 14, 2009 2:36 pm, Stephen Russell wrote: > So you are upset that as a computer professional you were caught off > guard that a major application used worldwide changed 2 years ago in > particular working with your bread and butter and you just found out? > > Sorry to hear about that.

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Ken Kixmoeller/fh wrote: > On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:08 PM, KAM.covad wrote: > >> When we run into issues like this with the ever changing m$ garbage >> we try to use open office. We find that it will do the conversion >> in most cases. > > Thanks -- I wondered about

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On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:08 PM, KAM.covad wrote: > When we run into issues like this with the ever changing m$ garbage > we try to use open office. We find that it will do the conversion > in most cases. Thanks -- I wondered about trying that. Unfortunately, this client wouldn't do anything l

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When we run into issues like this with the ever changing m$ garbage we try to use open office. We find that it will do the conversion in most cases. - Original Message - From: Jack Skelley To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: RE: When will I learn? Ke