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>The "postmodernist theology" they talk is insane. Their minds are FUBAR. For once Helio got it right... postmodernist theology is insane! -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html

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The "postmodernist theology" they talk is insane. Their minds are FUBAR. HW On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Ricardo Araoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helio Wakasugui wrote: >> This text must have been written by the same guy who wrote that cr*p >> movie "Expelled". >> >> HW >> > > Let's see...

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Sat, 7/26/08, Ricardo Araoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ricardo Araoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OT] why some people get the God story. > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 3:08 PM > Helio Wakasugui wrote: > > This

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Sat, 7/26/08, Ricardo Araoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Ricardo Araoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OT] why some people get the God story. > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 3:08 PM > Helio Wakasugui wrote: > > This

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Helio Wakasugui wrote: > This text must have been written by the same guy who wrote that cr*p > movie "Expelled". > > HW > Let's see... (check further on) > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 > MDSS/SGSI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> There is good and t

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Ed Leafe wrote: >> On Jul 25, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >> >> >>> There is good and there is evil. >>> >> And God created both. >> >> >>> God will be the judge over who will be united with him and who will >>> not. >>> >>

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Ed Leafe wrote: >> On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >> >> > Can you explain the mysteries of the universe. Einstein's theories shed > some light on how the universe works, but his work is far from a > complete explanation unifying ou

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Stephen Russell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>And you and others completely ignore the fact that if your version of >> an omnipotent creator is true, then we are *exactly* the way he >> intended us to be. What you describe as 'shortcoming

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>Umm... condemning someone to an eternity of torture isn't any less > pleasant if you dance around the world 'blame'. So how does 'blame' fit in when people choose to reject Him of their own free will? -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed

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Bob Calco wrote: >>> There is good and there is evil. >>> >> And God created both. >> > > True, and thank God he did! > > >>> God will be the judge over who will be united with him and who will >>> not. >>> >> And he created those who will not, and they are exactly a

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Yes, God created all things including me. Hi Leland! OK, so now you blame God! :-) I think you could really do better if you would proof read your work, perhaps reading it out loud and listening to how it sounds. As it is, you seem to be hitting "send" and then

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On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > Where in the story was the word 'brain' used? You missed the entire > argument against duality...apparently. No, I used 'brain' instead of mind, because the equivocation was what I was talking about. The

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> > There is good and there is evil. > > And God created both. True, and thank God he did! > > > God will be the judge over who will be united with him and who will > > not. > > And he created those who will not, and they are exactly as he > made > them. But he made them, and us,

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This text must have been written by the same guy who wrote that cr*p movie "Expelled". HW On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> There is good and there is evil. > >> And God created both. > > > Long Read... > > "LET

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- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:54 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] why some people get the God story. On Jul 25, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > Ed, did the story above m

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rsday, July 24, 2008 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [OT] why some people get the God story. On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > People tend to hear what they want to hear, see what the want to > see, or > they are to busy with themselves to get involved with trying to &g

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On Jul 25, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: > Ed, did the story above make any sense? It uses duplicate meanings of several scientific terms. If you follow the conversation, you can see the premises being set up in very specific ways, all leading t

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>> There is good and there is evil. > And God created both. Long Read... "LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem science has with Jesus Christ." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand. "You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"

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Stephen Russell wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> >> >>> Do you think we are saying that God blames you? I hope not. >>> >>Umm... condemning someone to an eternity of tort

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On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> Do you think we are saying that God blames you? I hope not. > > >Umm... condemning someone to an eternity of torture isn't any less > pleasant if you dance around

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Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 25, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> There is good and there is evil. >> > > And God created both. > > >> God will be the judge over who will be united with him and who will >> not. >> > > And he created those who will not

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On Jul 25, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > There is good and there is evil. And God created both. > God will be the judge over who will be united with him and who will > not. And he created those who will not, and they are exactly as he made them. > If I a

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Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> The God of my understanding is not out to get any or out to punish >> anyone. >> > > > So we'll just ignore Hell, in order to make your God look like a nice > guy? > > -- Ed Leafe > There is g

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Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> God's word states God created the universe. If there is no creator of >> the universes, then can you explain the origin of the universes? >> > > > It has always been there. > > Before you object

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>So this creator can't make some of us one way, and others another >way, and then blame us for the differences. It's called free will, Ed. Each of chooses how to respond. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) mess

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On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > The God of my understanding is not out to get any or out to punish > anyone. So we'll just ignore Hell, in order to make your God look like a nice guy? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post

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On Jul 25, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > God's word states God created the universe. If there is no creator of > the universes, then can you explain the origin of the universes? It has always been there. Before you object to that answer, remember that you've

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Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> I can't answer your question, because God goes far beyond my feeble >> understanding of things. God is speedy, because he has created, and >> is >> managing, a universe that might take billions of light years

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On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Do you think we are saying that God blames you? I hope not. Umm... condemning someone to an eternity of torture isn't any less pleasant if you dance around the world 'blame'. -- Ed Leafe __

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And you and others completely ignore the fact that if your version of > an omnipotent creator is true, then we are *exactly* the way he > intended us to be. What you describe as 'shortcomings' or 'flaws' are > actually s

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On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > I can't answer your question, because God goes far beyond my feeble > understanding of things. God is speedy, because he has created, and > is > managing, a universe that might take billions of light years to > transverse, yet God co

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Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> Don't try to understand God or >> search for logical explanations of how it all works; because, God, and >> God's world is very different than what we have experience. >> > > Yet this 'God' created me

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On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:37 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Don't try to understand God or > search for logical explanations of how it all works; because, God, and > God's world is very different than what we have experience. Yet this 'God' created me with a skeptical nature. Why would h

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Ed Leafe wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> People tend to hear what they want to hear, see what the want to >> see, or >> they are to busy with themselves to get involved with trying to >> understand anyone or anything else, (eg their heart's aren't in

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On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > People tend to hear what they want to hear, see what the want to > see, or > they are to busy with themselves to get involved with trying to > understand anyone or anything else, (eg their heart's aren't in it, or > their hearts have b

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> This is why I think it's dangerous >> to read God's world literally and as inerrant, >> > > Then how do you know what to believe and not believe... you certainly don't > think you are smart enough to figure out when God is kidding... do you? If > you don't have

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http://russellsteapot.com/know-your-bible/all/ On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>This is why I think it's dangerous >>to read God's world literally and as inerrant, > > Then how do you know what to believe and not believe... you certainly don't > think you are smart e

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>This is why I think it's dangerous >to read God's world literally and as inerrant, Then how do you know what to believe and not believe... you certainly don't think you are smart enough to figure out when God is kidding... do you? If you don't have absolutes, then you are just stuck with som

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> /For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more >> abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even >> that he hath."/ >> Isn't this from the Republican Party platform? >> > > No Fool! It's from the Bible you say you read.

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >> >> >>> Stephen Russell wrote: >>> >>> >>> In today's reading Mathew sums it up nicely. Jesus

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>/For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more >abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even >that he hath."/ >Isn't this from the Republican Party platform? No Fool! It's from the Bible you say you read. ;-) -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> Stephen Russell wrote: >> >> >>> In today's reading Mathew sums it up nicely. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jesus is warning his disciples that not everyone will get the message. >

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Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Stephen Russell wrote: > >> In today's reading Mathew sums it up nicely. >> >> >> >> Jesus is warning his disciples that not everyone will get the message. >> That it was stated by Isaiah, `You shall indeed h

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Stephen Russell wrote: > In today's reading Mathew sums it up nicely. > > > > Jesus is warning his disciples that not everyone will get the message. > That it was stated by Isaiah, `You shall indeed hear but never > understand, and you shall i

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Yeah, atheists and people who believe in other religions are all ignorant and deluded. Just the christians are right... LOL HW On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But the point is that they aren't deluded; they're the ones who >>perceive things correctly, and t

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Helio shared: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance I'm glad he gave us this insight into his approach to life. It helps us understand. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) message/rfc822 ---

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> But the point is that they aren't deluded; they're the ones who >perceive things correctly, and those who don't agree with them are >inherently defective. Finally Ed gets it!!! I figured he was more intelligent than he sounds sometimes. He complains about his defective ears but fail

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s.com/rightwingmike/4236924 --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Helio Wakasugui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Helio Wakasugui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OT] why some people get the God story. > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:57 AM &g

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helio Wakasugui wrote: >> The human brain is an interesting thing. It's amazing how people can >> be so deluded about ideology and religion. > >

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Helio Wakasugui wrote: > The human brain is an interesting thing. It's amazing how people can > be so deluded about ideology and religion. You poor bastard. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

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On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Helio Wakasugui wrote: > The human brain is an interesting thing. It's amazing how people can > be so deluded about ideology and religion. But the point is that they aren't deluded; they're the ones who perceive things correctly, and those who don't agree w

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The human brain is an interesting thing. It's amazing how people can be so deluded about ideology and religion. HW On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> Jesus is warning his disciples that not everyone will

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On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Jesus is warning his disciples that not everyone will get the message. > That it was stated by Isaiah, `You shall indeed hear but never > understand, and you shall indeed see but never perceive'. > > "He who has ears, let him hear." Da

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In today's reading Mathew sums it up nicely. Jesus is warning his disciples that not everyone will get the message. That it was stated by Isaiah, `You shall indeed hear but never understand, and you shall indeed see but never perceive'. "He