On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:39:10 -0500, "Stephen Russell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Other BIG issue is that it is a whole new GUI and stuff is categorized
> differently, or hidden, or secured and now that gets in the way,
Well in terms of moving and hiding things, they did that between 2000
and XP
KAM.covad wrote:
> We have had at least a dozen clients who want nothing to do with Vista, but
> have tried Linux (ubunto and redhat) and find it
> unusable - confusing - something like Vista?? If someone would make a
> user-friendly Linux, now is the time they could probably pick
> up a signif
I installed a dial-up modem and subscribed them to copper.net, and
migrated their email and files, I admit. I'd have to do that, no matter
what the OS though.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
Rick Schummer wrote:
> Yeah, but if I remember correctly a geek set it up for them.
We have had at least a dozen clients who want nothing to do with Vista, but
have tried Linux (ubunto and redhat) and find it
unusable - confusing - something like Vista?? If someone would make a
user-friendly Linux, now is the time they could probably pick
up a significant share of the market.
Rick Schummer wrote:
> Off to wire and wireless up my sister-in-law's computers. I hate this stuff.
The latest NetGear routers are super simple. My father (71) knows
NOTHING of networking and he got it to work quickly/easily, and I don't
think anyone helped him.
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>> My parents disagree. They love their Dell Ubuntu box. <<
Yeah, but if I remember correctly a geek set it up for them.
Off to wire and wireless up my sister-in-law's computers. I hate this stuff.
Rick
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>> I wonder why there was such a lack of progress for the masses?
Perhaps this is due to a certain 93% of the market company deciding to wring
profits for its
shareholders instead of thinking of improving the state of computing?<<
ROFL, the stockholders of the 93% market share company prob
On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Rick Schummer wrote:
> We are talking 20 years of progress since DOS was mainstream. The OS
> should not be hard to work with
> or install period.
So that rules out Microsoft, eh? ;-)
> We literally should be talking to the computer and having it work
>
My parents disagree. They love their Dell Ubuntu box.
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC
Paul McNett wrote:
> Linux will always be a platform for geeks.
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>>> Linux will always be a platform for geeks.
People used to say that about DOS.<<
Completely different era and hardly a decent comparison when we have so many
options today and the
OS has become ubiquitous. No OS manufacturer wanting their product to be
adopted by the masses
should ma
Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Paul McNett wrote:
>
>
>>> People used to say that about DOS.
>>>
DOS WAS for geeks. I was one of them. I still find it faster to work in
DOS instead of a GUI.
>> Which people? At the time DOS was heavily used, Unix would have been
>
On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Paul McNett wrote:
>> People used to say that about DOS.
>
> Which people? At the time DOS was heavily used, Unix would have been
> the
> platform for geeks...
Geeks were the ones who could write .BAT files and mess with stuff
like QEMM. At the job I
Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Paul McNett wrote:
>
>> Linux will always be a platform for geeks.
>
>
> People used to say that about DOS.
Which people? At the time DOS was heavily used, Unix would have been the
platform for geeks...
Paul
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> Linux will always be a platform for geeks.
People used to say that about DOS.
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Rick Schummer wrote:
> The point is, lots of people are being sheep in this case. On the flip side,
> I bet lots of people
> lined up for an iPhone because they heard it was cool, not because they can
> benefit from the
> features and functionality. Apple was smart in herding in the sheep.
Histo
Rick Schummer wrote:
>>> Who's to blame for sticking that bad rep on M$? Is it Mac with those
> hilarious commercials, or perhaps the grassroots Linux folks, or the
> little green men? <<
>
> Not sure there is any one person/entity you can point to, or if it is even
> necessary. Microsoft
> u
>> Who's to blame for sticking that bad rep on M$? Is it Mac with those
hilarious commercials, or perhaps the grassroots Linux folks, or the
little green men? <<
Not sure there is any one person/entity you can point to, or if it is even
necessary. Microsoft
upper management made mistakes, Mic
Vince Teachout wrote:
> I have a sneaking suspicion, that if I were to test a Windows Vista box
> that had been carefully loaded onto a new high-powered machine, and
> tweaked for maximum performance by a team of Microsoft Engineers, who
> were standing by to answer any questions, I'd probably l
Rick Schummer wrote:
>>> I'm totally in agreement that a fair percentage of Vista-haters only hate
>>> it because they read on
> a load of forums and blogs that they should hate it.<<
>
> Me too. I also believe that most Vista problems come from upgrading
> underpowered hardware. I know,
> my wo
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Rick Schummer
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>>> I'm totally in agreement that a fair percentage of Vista-haters only hate
>>> it because they read on
> a load of forums and blogs that they should hate it.<<
>
> Me too. I also believe that most Vista problems come from
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Chemical-laden, over-carbonated soft drinks are popular everywhere, Ted!
>
You're probably right, Alan. I'd never thought of Windows that way before.
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:02:21 -0400, "Ted Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Perhaps. A large majority of US citizens drink Budweiser, and I can't
> understand that, either.
Chemical-laden, over-carbonated soft drinks are popular everywhere, Ted!
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I have a sneaking suspicion, that if I were to test a Windows Vista box
that had been carefully loaded onto a new high-powered machine, and
tweaked for maximum performance by a team of Microsoft Engineers, who
were standing by to answer any questions, I'd probably like it, too.
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I don't know about users, but I used it for about a month exclusively
for VFP development. I got so frustrated that I gave up and put Ubuntu
on that system and went back to XP for development on my older system.
It was for the same reasons I went to Open Office instead of Office
2007. What po
>> I'm totally in agreement that a fair percentage of Vista-haters only hate it
>> because they read on
a load of forums and blogs that they should hate it.<<
Me too. I also believe that most Vista problems come from upgrading
underpowered hardware. I know,
my world is not a scientific sample, b
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Brian Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> c) if you're using it for work - as opposed to home - the eye candy is
> just distracting
>
I don't know about you, but besides being distracting, Vista eye candy
is bad taste stuff.
HW
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Alan Bourke wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008/07/24/microsoft-lies-to-xp-users-and-they-start-to-love-vista?bub
>
> I'm totally in agreement that a fair percentage of Vista-haters only
> hate it because they read on a load of forums and blogs that they should
> hate it.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008/07/24/microsoft-lies-to-xp-users-and-they-start-to-love-vista?bub
>
> I'm totally in agreement that a fair percentage of Vista-haters only
> hate it because they read on a lo
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