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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:52 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Kurt k...@isssusa.com wrote:
Hey Stephen - I didn't
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
Hey Dave - regarding this older posting of yours. I'm curious to know if you
have made more progress on implementing Metro style interfaces in VFP -
since, we (at my day job) - have this App that we are looking to run on a
Tablet - and I MUST
] On Behalf Of Kurt
Sent: 28 February 2013 15:42
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Shout Out to Dave Crozier ...was[RE: VFP Metro Interface]
Hey Dave - I believe the ProFox list posting at the bottom of this message was
from you. I was just trying to search for it on the ProFox Archives again(just
confirm
in mind on this Metro stuff...
Thanks,
-K-
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Crozier
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:49 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Shout Out to Dave Crozier ...was[RE: VFP Metro Interface]
Kurt
will probably be over
the weekend when I get a moment to breathe.
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt
Sent: 28 February 2013 15:42
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Shout Out to Dave Crozier ...was[RE: VFP Metro Interface]
Hey Dave - I
On 2/28/2013 11:35 AM, Allen wrote:
Sent from Samsung Mobile
If you like bad support get a samsung
ROFLMAO
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Mike Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
http://fabmate.com
http://twitter.com/mbabcock16
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Russell
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:14 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote:
Good comeback Mike - VERY Funny indeed!
As it is - I bang out a VERY Quick
Hey Dave - regarding this older posting of yours. I'm curious to know if you
have made more progress on implementing Metro style interfaces in VFP -
since, we (at my day job) - have this App that we are looking to run on a
Tablet - and I MUST give it a proper Overhaul ASAP!
Thanks in Advance!
Feasible to do!
Not like he really listens to me...
-K-
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
Russell
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:34 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:00
: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:52 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Kurt k...@isssusa.com wrote:
Hey Stephen - I didn't say we were going to REWRITE the App - just do some
kinda Overhaul to make it run properly under Win8 on a Tablet
Andrew Ross MacNeil's GENMENUX is your friend...
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rk
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:03 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
True - I was hoping to avoid tweaking
Metro Interface
Andrew Ross MacNeil's GENMENUX is your friend...
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rk
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:03 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
True - I was hoping
On 2/26/2013 11:34 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Kurt k...@isssusa.com wrote:
Hey Dave - regarding this older posting of yours. I'm curious to know if
you
have made more progress on implementing Metro style interfaces in VFP -
since, we (at my day job) - have this
Good comeback Mike - VERY Funny indeed!
As it is - I bang out a VERY Quick change to part of the system today
already - done in about 45 min. - to change this one screen to a MUCH
Bigger display - bigger buttons, fonts, etc. - but, did it in a way that
I copied this screen - and made a 2nd
Hey Dave - regarding this older posting of yours. I'm curious to know if
you
have made more progress on implementing Metro style interfaces in VFP -
since, we (at my day job) - have this App that we are looking to run on a
Tablet - and I MUST give it a proper Overhaul ASAP!
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012, at 08:50 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
If I heard right (on LinkedIn iirc), Servoy might be a good choice given
your POV on how they charge. No personal experience.
They have a free edition which is exactly the same as the paid one,
except it only allows a few
On 11/13/2012 11:16 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
What about the data. Is it DBF's and/or DBC's like VFP? OR is it
strictly that you tie into a server data source like MySql? Again -
just curious - and trying to figure out what's involved...
RealSoftware just uploaded a video on accessing MySQL
On 11/13/2012 11:16 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
What about the data. Is it DBF's and/or DBC's like VFP?
I think the days of tools having their own proprietary databases are
well behind us, thankfully.
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On Nov 16, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote:
I think the days of tools having their own proprietary databases are
well behind us, thankfully.
+1
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It's nice that RealBasic works with SQLite fairly seamlessly. It makes
it easy to create an in-memory database much like we have cursors in
VFP. Full SQL capability of SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE and DELETE is
sweet. (Dabo has had this capability for a long time as well.)
If by 'proprietary'
and controlling a software segment. THAT
takes skill! Especially the controlling part for any period of time.
I don't care for Quickbooks/Quicken either, but I respect what Intuit
has accomplished.
Mike
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Subject: Re: [NF] RealBasic and MySQL (was Re: VFP Metro
On 11/16/2012 1:06 PM, Mike Copeland wrote:
Quickbooks = momentum
Say what you want about Intuit's products, the marketing was innovative
and genius at the time. They practically gave away Quicken...it worked
well enough...they were constantly updating (which equated to presence
and top of mind
You nailed the nose on the hammer!
windoze over...pretty much anything.
Mike
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Subject: [NF] Quickbooks (was Re: [NF] RealBasic and MySQL (was Re: VFP
Metro Interface))
From: MB Software Solutions, LLC
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
To: profoxt
Wow - now a SECOND Change to an Email Thread name! Isn't that Thread
HiJackin? Dang...
Mike - to answer your Q. I heard that actually Beta was better than VHS
- but, VHS won. Although, I know - its not SW - so maybe this is bad
example!
How about ME as a programmer at my Last job - as this
Hey Kevin - thanks for this - mucho appreciated! Am going to look at in
a couple of moments...
-K-
On 11/16/2012 10:46 AM, Kevin Cully wrote:
On 11/13/2012 11:16 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
What about the data. Is it DBF's and/or DBC's like VFP? OR is it
strictly that you tie into a server
Beta was technically superior. Vastly so. Then that digital stuff came
along and analog tape recording went bye bye.
Mike
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Subject: Re: [NF] Quickbooks (was Re: [NF] RealBasic and MySQL (was Re:
VFP Metro Interface))
From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net
was technically superior. Vastly so. Then that digital stuff came
along and analog tape recording went bye bye.
Mike
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Subject: Re: [NF] Quickbooks (was Re: [NF] RealBasic and MySQL (was
Re: VFP Metro Interface))
From: Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net
To: profoxt
On 11/16/2012 3:35 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
Tell me about it - the Oxides drop off is TERRIBLE - so, VHS Tapes from
5 t 10 years ago, and those even farther back - are almost Un-viewable!
Time to convert them ALL to DVD - before the content degrades to
completely unusable.
Reminds me of the
Ah - man - Mike - Ur so Bad! This is like the 3rd renaming of this thread.
Yeah - a little while ago - before the new Tron movie came out - I tried
to have my son watch the Original - which I had on VHS. Holy cow - it
looked SO BAD!
-K-
On 11/16/2012 4:20 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
Peachtree Accounting Software was supposed to be very good and appease the
accountants moreso (probably because of that part about closed
periods). This is another example of how marketing and its big-$ spend
can really take an arguably inferior product and make it #1. History is
Oh man - U made me chuckle on THAT One!
-K-
On 11/16/2012 9:16 PM, Ken Dibble wrote:
Peachtree Accounting Software was supposed to be very good and
appease the accountants moreso (probably because of that part about
closed periods). This is another example of how marketing and its
big-$
pens...
sheer bloody luxury!
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 14 November 2012 09:24
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain
GaryT wrote:
:-)
Hehe
I was half expecting to see a response to that beginning with
something along the lines of
Awww you reckon YOU had it tough. My Dad used to force us
Something like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
Peter
Yep! It seemed to be heading in that direction Peter.
On that note, we had Michael Palin in town last week, promoting his
latest travel film - this one about Brazil.
GT
On 15/11/12 23:08, Peter Cushing wrote:
GaryT wrote:
:-)
Hehe
I was half expecting to see a response to that beginning
On 11/13/2012 11:14 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho wrote:
I would like an application that would not charge the developer when he is
developing.
Now if and when I sell the product of my development then I could be charged.
I think that way we could try several products till we find the best for us.
I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain
ticking over. I wish I'd had PowerPoint when I was teaching! When I think
of the hours I spent making OHP slides with a Rotring pen and stencil :-)
John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631
Well into retirement now I'm
Gee John,
Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring pens...
sheer bloody luxury!
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 14 November 2012 09:24
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
] On Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 14 November 2012 09:24
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
I too am retired do a bit of programming to keep my hand in and the brain
ticking over. I wish I'd had PowerPoint when I was teaching! When I think of
the hours I spent making OHP slides
This was in the RAF in the 70s when I was an instructor on the Vulcan.
John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631
Gee John,
Your school must have been rich ... you could actually afford Rotring
pens...
sheer bloody luxury!
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 14 November 2012 15:18
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
This was in the RAF in the 70s when I was an instructor on the Vulcan.
John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631
I just had an email off Kurt regarding the classes and rather than just reply
to him thought I would copy the group with my response:
Dave
* Email from Kurt:
*
Hey Dave!
On 11/13/2012 6:58 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
To All,
I was just playing around with VFP last night after
Cool.
You intend to call your forms from the click, but if u got MDI forms the layout
is going to get messy.
That's why I prefer the menu up on top.
E.
From: Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk
To: ProFox Email List pro...@mail.leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November
apps here
that I definitely DO NOT want to rewrite in C#!!
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Eurico Chagas Filho
Sent: 13 November 2012 13:45
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
Cool.
You intend to call your forms from
Kurt,
I hope that I haven't oversold Real Studio / RealBasic. For Windows
only desktop applications, I still think that VFP has the edge in
development.
However, for being able to develop one application and compile for
Windows, Mac, and Linux desktop applications, then it is the best tool
Full agreement here on RealBasic, both it's pro's and also its cons.
I just treat it as another tool in the developers arsenal and at multi platform
it is certainly the best one click multi compile solution I have found.
I think all the comments regarding VFP and it's future bring into
Dave,
Is it my computer, or was there no audio in the video?
It looks good. I'm not big on fancy UI's. What I've seen of the Windows 8
Home page. What you've produced fits right in line.
Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software
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days trial is not enough.
E.
From: Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [NF] RealBasic (was Re: VFP Metro Interface)
Full agreement here on RealBasic, both it's pro's
Hey Kevin,
On 11/13/2012 9:29 AM, Kevin Cully wrote:
Kurt,
I hope that I haven't oversold Real Studio / RealBasic. For Windows
only desktop applications, I still think that VFP has the edge in
development.
Overselling sounds fine by me - nothing wrong with being a RealBasic
Evangelist!
Hey Dave - thanks again for your input. I agree with your 1 horse
comment - and hope that I CAN get this New project - and CAN use this as
the perfect opportunity to get a new tool under my belt!
L8r,
-K-
On 11/13/2012 9:39 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
Full agreement here on RealBasic, both it's
Hello Eurico,
The Real Studio pricing model is going to change with the next release.
The IDE is going to be free from that point on. You only need to pay if
you want to compile the application. In fact, you can develop and
application, distribute it to your customer and they can run it
, November 13, 2012 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [NF] RealBasic (was Re: VFP Metro Interface)
Full agreement here on RealBasic, both it's pro's and also its cons.
I just treat it as another tool in the developers arsenal and at multi platform it is
certainly the best one click multi compile solution I
Reminds me of many years ago, well, not THAT many really, we used to
point to a certain development tool and say I could write that using
VFP. Trouble is, the old memory is getting so bad these days I can't
remember what program it was. :-) Might have been a Borland product.
So many have
On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho e28cha...@yahoo.com.br
wrote:
I would like an application that would not charge the developer when he is
developing.
Now if and when I sell the product of my development then I could be charged.
I think that way we could try several products
Oh I say, joly well done old chap!
seriously - well done, I was only recently reading a group of people
bewailing the fact that VB6 would never be able to support Metro.
AndyD
On 13/11/2012 11:58, Dave Crozier wrote:
To All,
I was just playing around with VFP last night after having
On 11/13/2012 11:16 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
When you say Non-UI, what does that really mean? Only the data
processing and manipulation routines can be shared?
Yes. The UI elements are specific to the various platforms so
interfacing with them wouldn't cross over. However, developing for a
and
everyone knows what it means.
It's a little like Prince ... the product previously known as Metro!! grin
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of GaryT
Sent: 13 November 2012 16:22
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
Reminds
November 2012 15:18
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: VFP Metro Interface
Dave,
Is it my computer, or was there no audio in the video?
It looks good. I'm not big on fancy UI's. What I've seen of the Windows 8 Home
page. What you've produced fits right in line.
Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software
Great Kevin.
I don't mind distributing riches. If I sell I will compile and gladly pay for
it.
E.
From: Kevin Cully kcu...@cullytechnologies.com
To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] RealBasic (was Re: VFP Metro
.
From: Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] RealBasic (was Re: VFP Metro Interface)
On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho e28cha...@yahoo.com.br
wrote:
I would
: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] RealBasic (was Re: VFP Metro Interface)
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Eurico Chagas Filho
e28cha...@yahoo.com.br wrote:
I would like an application that would not charge the developer when he is
developing.
Now if and when I sell the product
Hey Kevin,
Thanks again for all your extensive input - I really appreciate your
taking the time to reply. And, yes, I think a 3-day trial is sufficient
for my purposes!
Regards,
Kurt
On 11/13/2012 11:57 AM, Kevin Cully wrote:
On 11/13/2012 11:16 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote:
When you say
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Sent: 13 November 2012 16:22
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: VFP Metro Interface
Reminds me of many years ago, well, not THAT many really, we used to point to a certain
development tool and say I could write that using VFP. Trouble is, the old
memory
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