Re: [PEDA] tests for Pb in solder

2004-08-13 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> One last thought, several people have pointed out that certain classes of > equipment will be exempt i.e. Military, medical etc but if all the assemble > companies have switched to lead free who is still going to do lead based > assembly (and at what premium)? I know that once we have gone lead f

Re: [PEDA] tests for Pb in solder

2004-08-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Most of the major Japanese manufactures have been lead free for over 3 or 4 > years, I guess there reliability is so good as you haven't even noticed the > difference ;-) You're right, I haven't noticed the difference in a measly 3-4 years. I also haven't bought much consumer gear in the past 3

Re: [PEDA] tests for Pb in solder

2004-08-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Rene: > your wish comes too late. No, I've been wishing this for years ;-) I have not checked the EU rules lately, but IIRC they have some exemptions for industrial, medical, and military equipment. Since our products are used in these areas, I think we fall into this category. If anyone has l

[PEDA] tests for Pb in solder

2004-08-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: I was wondering if there are any easy, quick tests to determine if solder has lead (Pb) in it, and what the approximate concentration might be. I don't need a quantitative lab analysis, just a yes/no. A vendor told me yesterday that their process has been lead-free for over a year no

Re: [PEDA] XP SP2 stop Protel 99SE working ??

2004-08-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Hence the question "Where is everyone getting SP2 for Windows XP?" Bittorent, P2P, etc.? ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Joe Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesda

Re: [PEDA] Board warpage?

2004-07-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I've done a 5-layer PCB before with no problems with warpage, and it's a fairly big board ( about 10 x 5 in. ). The trick is to not have much unbalanced copper on that extra layer. In this particular board I am referring to, it was an existing design on a 4-layer PCB, and the customer wanted a cu

Re: [PEDA] Ver 3.x --> 99SE or DXP??

2004-07-19 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Will selling a "shrink wrap" version of the software cannibalize some > of your "high end" sales? Probably. But were those customers "willing" > upgraders or did they feel the pressure of using a now orphaned product > (ala Microsoft, Autocad to name but two)? Instead you split the market > into

Re: [PEDA] Ver 3.x --> 99SE or DXP??

2004-07-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I'll second Tom's favorable opinion of 99SE, and add my own comments. I don't find the 99SE database annoying, my main concern with it is I wonder if the DDB files will be readable in the future by any non-Microsoft database tool. That could be a problem, if DDB files are never documented or prop

Re: [PEDA] 99SE Print Preview problem

2004-07-07 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Is it a network printer that is no longer available? I've seen Protel crash because of this. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Ian Rozowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: We

Re: [PEDA] The Protel 99SE router (router?)

2004-04-07 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I remember when Protel bought "NeuroRoute" from Gene Marsh (?) At the time, > which was not that long ago, EVERYONE was saying it, NeuroRoute, was the > best thing since sliced bread. > > What happened? Well, we found that bread is very fattening (lots of carbs)! And unless you eat the whole gr

Re: [PEDA] Antenna coil

2004-03-28 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I'm the guy still using Protel 1.61 (1992) with Windows 3.11 and I'm on > a phone linenow that you're through laughing my question is - my Look on the bright side - the new virii and worms that plague today's systems probably won't affect your old system. Most of the vulnerabilities they ex

Re: [PEDA] Some particle business advise when working with Protel/DPX and tech stuff in general...

2004-03-25 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> > Alternate version: The light at the end of the tunnel is probably an > > oncoming train. Lyrics from a John Fogarty song: "The light at the end of the tunnel was just a burglar's torch". How appropriate for these times... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.c

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE crashes when Printing PCB

2004-03-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
If it's a networked printer, I've seen Protel crash when trying to print to a non-existent (or not properly configured for sharing) network printer. IIRC, it was a HP printer that wasn't visible on the network that caused the crash. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotron

Re: [PEDA] Activation

2004-03-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I don't have Protel 2004 yet, so I haven't seen what is required for > activation. Am I to understand that the new activation must be done > on-line? On the system Protel 2004 will be running on? Every time I install some piece of software I suspect might "phone home", I yank the ethernet plu

Re: [PEDA] Sound WAS New PC tested...

2004-03-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Also, in the advanced tab, check off 'Digital only'. In this context, "check off" means to put a check mark in the check box, right? Oh, the ambiguities of common expressions. Has anyone seen that episode of the Simpsons, where Dr. Nick Riviera's ether tanks are burning and he says "Inflammabl

Re: [PEDA] horses vs. cars

2004-03-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Oh, come on... Horses smell much better than a City Bus firing up in front > of you while your stuck behind him on the southbound freeway. And that's when I dive for the "air recirculation" button on the dash. Doesn't work too well on my Caddy convertible, though. I said I prefer car emission

Re: [PEDA] Activation (was Anybody else recieve these types of messages...)

2004-03-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I have multiple computers. I like Windows XP, but I'm continuing to use > W2000 on the majority of my computers. I bought Office XP. I can only use > it on this computer. I see no good reason for this. I'm a single user, my > use of the software in multiple installations would not increase the co

Re: [PEDA] The road to DXP, one mans story, warning long post, (was)2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Is driving a car more complex and difficult (higher processing load) than > riding a horse? Why do most of us not use horses to get about? Why did we > (the community collectively) decide to skill-up and learn to drive a car? > So we can get places faster, basically. (Come on Ivan I am sure you

Re: [PEDA] Sound WAS New PC tested...

2004-03-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Could be sampler noise from an enabled line in. IE, PC speaker input, Line > in, CD audio in. I have not analyzed SB live in detail because it is unable > to play audio without adding pops / clicks in general. You could be right, I didn't think about that. I'll have to check the SB Live mixer

Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...

2004-03-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
so, the whole unit has only 3 fans and it's super quiet. > (1 on cpu, 1 on video card, 1 on power supply, Altera's Quartus does > accelerate the fans considerably when compiling jobs which take more than 5 > minutes.) > > > _ > Brian Guralnick > > >

Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...

2004-03-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I'm glad to hear someone has had good luck with ASUS. Some time ago I went > through several ASUS 400MHz CUSL2 motherboards, different CPUs, different > brands of memory, different power supplies, and everything else to try to > stop random crashes. It wasn't just with Protel either. I finally

Re: [PEDA] New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...

2004-03-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I do believe the stability of my new system is that all the peripherals, > 24 bit/96KHz sound, USB, 1394, Ethernet, SATA raid controller, ATA raid > controller are all on the motherboard & the video card was also made by Asus I bet that 24bit/96KHz sound that's on the mobo doesn't sound so g

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Mike: Thanks for your review of 2004. It's good to hear something positive about Altium and their products, for a change. Keep us posted as to which new features are the best and if any are "gotta have". Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Me

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> existing product in the areas that the existing users use, Protel has > shot itself in the foot. That would not have been so bad, except for > the fact that their foot was in their mouth and the head stuck up their > rear ends when they shot. Let's see, the head is up in the rear end, the mouth

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

2004-03-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Respecting the issue of "too many trees" for Manuals, When I got my initial Release > of DXP, I got a manual that was just over 3/8" thick that was an absolute joke (I am > once again restraining myself to keep it clean here in the forum), that was totally > worthless, and very soon actually obso

Re: [PEDA] File Format Not Recognized

2004-02-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> could be flaky hardware. Get a comprehensive memory test program. Such as memtest86: http://www.memtest86.com/ It's free and it's great. And it's essential to use on modern PC hardware, which gets closer to the edge and more fragile every day. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. webs

Re: [PEDA] Semiconducto rmfg Footprint creation

2004-02-06 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Just a suggestion folks.When you vist sites like TI.com, and when you're > looking for footprint info, I would urge you to take the extra 1-1/2 minutes > to urge them to provide such support... > > this is the addres of ti's suggestions box... > http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/symfoot/requestedc

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Well, remember that only publicly-traded corporations can be > "bought out" by force. A privately-held corporation that doesn't > want to be bought, can't be bought. I wasn't commenting about whether or not they wanted to be bought. It's entirely conceivable that the owners of a legit company

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> if it is what it seems to be i will repeat that i think that altium > should just buy them and integrate it > after all that was neuroute's biz strategy Be careful what you wish for - you might get it. Seriously, when a firm with a great product gets bought by another firm, it usually has detri

Re: [PEDA] Transparent footprints

2004-01-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> 2.8 has that option also. Under Options preferences unclick Nearest > component and it will list the possibles. Wow, someone else who remembers 2.8 better than I do. Hot dawg! I still keep 2.8 around for the occasional PCB that needs to be manually optimized for parts placement and routing on

Re: [PEDA] Transparent footprints

2004-01-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> The only drawback with this approach is that when selecting components within the footprint > you get the `popup select component dialog' more an inconvenience than anything else. Consider it a "feature", not an inconvenience (or bug). It's better for Protel to ask you which object you want, ra

Re: [PEDA] Transparent footprints

2004-01-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Laurie: I assume you are using 99SE. I stack components like this all the time. IIRC, there is a design rule that allows components to touch. Set that rule to "allowed". If you want to enforce that rule for all other components, create a component class (i.e. "TouchAllowed") where all componen

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Altium KB and Mozilla

2003-12-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> MS internet tools may be the primary targets of hackers, but all software > I've used stinks and could be targets if people get mad enough. Yeah, I can't think of ANY company that has done more to piss people off than Microsoft. They have made few friends and many enemies over the past 20 years

Re: [PEDA] P99SE drc

2003-12-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
IMO, this is a BUG in 99SE. This has happened to me before, and fortunately, I noticed it before having the boards made. No, DRC will NOT find it. I ended up not using split planes, and added another plane instead. BTW, the 99SE autorouter will automatically make the same mistake, that is, plac

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Altium KB and Mozilla

2003-12-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Maybe Altium is still using "illegal Java" (Microsoft's JVM) in their web pages? > Call me hard headed, but I don't use IE or Outlook (in any of it's > forms) and have no problems with viruses, trojans, etc. MS internet > tools are the primary targets of hackers and they have plenty of holes > to

Re: [PEDA] What could we expect in next Altium EDA tools?

2003-12-23 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Some people have found that if they make enough fuss, if they are > unpleasant enough, they will get a desireable response. It does work > sometimes, but I think the costs are too great. That's what the expression "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" means. Sometimes, though, the squeaky wheel g

Re: [PEDA] OT Quickbooks

2003-12-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> My wife's business was using Quickbooks as book-keeping software. > Quickbooks was lacking certain features that existed in another program, > MYOB. Since I was frustrated, in particular, with how Quickbooks handled > inventory transfers -- and I did all the book-keeping -- I decided to > switch.

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE ERC

2003-12-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> DRC would be happy, but a properly configured ERC would not. I always have > ERC report unconnected pins, and I nail them all down: if there is a > deliberately unconnected pin, I place a No-ERC directive on it, which from > then on suppresses the ERC report. That's what I do too. It's not just

Re: [PEDA] What is the meaning of "DXP"

2003-12-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> > What's common about a hammer and a pipe wrench? > > A pipe wrench can be used as an emergency hammer :) They also have a common user interface - the handle :-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Thomas" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [PEDA] What could we expect in next Altium EDA tools?

2003-12-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> It is right that there is a sucker born every day, but you can not build > a business plan counting on selling only to suckers. You need to be > able to sell to your existing customers and Altium seems to be > specializing in alienating them. I have personally prevented the sale > of 3 seats of

Re: [PEDA] What is the meaning of "DXP"

2003-12-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I have seen more companies release software products > before they should have been released full of all manner of bugs. Look > at Microsoft. It almost seems like they deliberately put bugs into > their products, but I know better. It is a market-driven economy, so > they have to release their

Re: [PEDA] double pins

2003-12-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> This then reduces to the old question of how Protel treats pads with the > same name. If you start with a fresh board, no netlist loaded, and you > place the parts, then load the net list using Netlist load, the last > behavior I saw was this: IMO, the way to treat the "double-pin" scenario is t

Re: [PEDA] OT: Low price on 21" monitors

2003-12-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
y, December 03, 2003 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT: Low price on 21" monitors > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > snip > > > Uh-oh, nostalgia trip coming on (muST FIGHT IT, ARrrghh, > > can

Re: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost

2003-12-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I just did a 'webquote' from them and they are EXPENSIVE!!! They made you scream. Maybe that's why they are called "Screaming" ? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Fo

Re: [PEDA] OT: Low price on 21" monitors

2003-12-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> That's true, the power on surges are pretty stressful. I was thinking about > the heat build up from leaving it on 24/7. I suppose you could leave it on > all night (like Brian stated with the contrast cranked) and then power cycle > it a few times a day. Let some time pass during the off-state

[PEDA] Protel viewer?

2003-12-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: I've got to give a preliminary PCB placement to a customer. Of course PDF can be made, but is there a free Protel viewer that he can use? If so, what is it, and where do I get it? Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving to you all. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.ba

Re: [PEDA] Exciting news for all users of Protel DXP and nVisage DXP

2003-12-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Leave the lawyers out of it. They are the cause of 1/2 the world's problems > anyway. The only thing lawyers will do is drain money from Altium, and we'll > be paying for it with more expensive products. Literally true. I have a saying: "There are only 2 reasons you need a lawyer. #1 is if yo

[PEDA] Fw: Exciting news for all users of Protel DXP and nVisage DXP

2003-11-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> More importantly for you, Nexar will pioneer a new approach to electronics development something that we are calling LiveDesign. LiveDesign capabilities, which are incorporated into the DXP platform, support real-time communication between the engineer and the design... Real-time communication

Re: [PEDA] State of PCB (aka EDA) tool business

2003-11-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> What a do know is the 200,000 ALU shares I own are > now half what I paid for them with only 2 cent > div for the last year, the IPO was at $2.00 so they > have lost several hundred million of shareholders > money.. Ouch! Sorry about your loss. But that sounds about typical for tech invest

Re: [PEDA] State of PCB (aka EDA) tool business

2003-11-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Reading over the annual report, I realise the matter is a tad complicated, > because of the existence of Altium Ltd as the parent entity and then other > companies owned by Altium. On first glance, however, the position of > Altium, even though losses are shown for fiscal 2003, seems to be quite

Re: [PEDA] Complete custom protel library.

2003-11-04 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Brian: I get a HTTP 404 error message and some French language error message when I click on the links to get the files. Parlez-vous France? Nope. Just English, C, Basic, X86 assembly, and rusty ancient Latin. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Origi

Re: [PEDA] State of PCB (aka EDA) tool business

2003-11-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> You also will learn how the top vendors are doing their VeriBest :) > to drive prices up and how there are no new entrants And that in the face of the rising Free and/or Open Source phenomenon. Sometimes I get the feeling that it's just a last-minute money grab: Grab all the cash you can while

Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Only the 24 bit converter can handle RGB. Remember, 24 bit RGB means 16 > million valid colors. 24 bit component (YUV) means only 3 million valid > colors, that's why head end broadcast quality use 30 bit color component, > which gives them around 170 million valid colors. Head end? What does

Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I'm sure no use of the autorouter was made with these boards, eh? ;-) 30-bit video ADC? I assume that's 10 bits each for R, G, and B ? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel

Re: [PEDA] Stock Components/Joining nets - now autorouting

2003-10-28 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
My experience with the Protel autorouter is with Advanced Route 3.1 (Protel 2.8, 3.X) and the integrated router in 99se. Don't know about 98 and DXP. >From what I have seen, both AR 3.1 and AR 99SE can quickly produce 100% results which are acceptable on low to medium-speed digital boards, if the

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-24 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> OEM licenses may be legitimately cheaper because they may represent lower > support costs, plus being, closer to wholesale. Support? What's that? I am serious. It's been a long time since I looked at Microsoft's support policies. I know you don't get support from MS for an OEM version, they

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-23 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
ject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7 > At 10:14 AM 10/22/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > >Note: I am not against MS in principle. If I could buy a full version of > >W98 or 2K for $39, I'd do it. But $299 is just too much for software that > >should be priced as a

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-23 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
rom: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7 > Mr. Baggett, one of our fine and helpful writers, here manages to seriously > confuse some

Re: [PEDA] Server problems

2003-10-23 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Isn't spam wonderful? ... it makes our lives so interesting. Any day I > expect that $30 million to be wired into my account, and I get 20%, and all > I had to do was be helpful to this poor relative of a dead dictator I > promise I'll share it with all my friends :-) You have no friends

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I believe it is a driver issue. I haven't seen the display problem in > years. I'm also using a Matrox G450, but I've reinstalled windows several > times over the years and I don't remember if the drivers were taken from > the Matrox CDROM or some other source. Yeah, that's the ticket. Keep ins

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yeah, I get the broken schematic wire thing on my workstation too. Using a Matrox G450 video card. If you like Protel 2.8 and don't see the benefit to 99SE, then by all means stay with 2.8. I still use 2.8 occasionally, for the pin swapping feature. When manually optimizing routing for a 2 layer

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
ge - From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7 > > > Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > > >>Ivan, > >> > &

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Dwight Harm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
years. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 17, 20

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> When Altium tried to go to a maintenance fee arrangement, we screamed > loudly enough that they backed down. If there were a maintenance fee, we > would have a much better chance of getting service packs How much would > we be willing to pay for continued work on 99SE? My guess is that if we

Re: [PEDA] [PrU] Wierd Sience

2003-10-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
JaMi: Did you mean wierd "silence" or wierd "science"? It works either way ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Protel Devel

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Mike: How would you do this? Unless you have the source code for 99SE and Altium's blessing to make it open source, I don't see how you could make 99SE open source for a SP7. I assume you mean you would write add-on utilities for 99SE, and your add-ons would be open source? I'm not sure that ad

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE hangups during compact

2003-10-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
http://memtest86.com It's da bomb... Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE hangu

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
up to. My department head is an engineer and a good guy. We'd have new stuff if it were up to him. > > Our interns love Linux, but the PHB (pointy-haired boss) won't let them install it--even if it is their own copy. > > We are all pretty creative around here--it's

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> My company won't upgrade computers, much less software. Getting a new copy of Windows even is like pulling teeth. Our interns work on one P266 (two people). I wish there was an upgrade for CEOs. Maybe it's because Windows' purchase price and licensing terms are so much less tolerable than the

Re: [PEDA] Advanced Schematic on Win2k?

2003-09-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Well ... 32-bit software is 65536 times as good as 16-bit software isn't > it? Altium should be charging you $131 Million to upgrade. 32-bit software can also contain 65536 times as many bugs, right? ;-) Oh, boy, I can hardly wait for the 64-bit software coming soon! By your standard, to upg

Re: [PEDA] patent OT

2003-09-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> You mean something like this: > > http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1 &u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6058192.WKU.&OS=PN/6058192&RS=PN/60 58192 > Brian, you thief! You pirate! How dare you design an illegal descrambler box! And you had the aud

Re: [PEDA] License Legalities

2003-09-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Enough! surely! > > Hasn't anyone got real work to do? In THIS (U.S.) economy? What do you think? ;-) All kidding aside, yes I have real work to do. But sometimes it's good to blow off steam, and one way to do that is through creative writing and humor. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix

Re: [PEDA] OT employer topics WAS: License Legalities

2003-09-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I am somewhat surprised at your stance above when it comes to what an > Employer seems to "owe" an Employee, or what an Employee has the "right" to > be able to do at the expense of his Employers time and resources. > > But then again, quite possibly you only consider this where other Employers >

Re: [PEDA] License Legalities

2003-09-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> There are a whole new class of statutes which have been appearing recently > (or at least getting a lot of attention in recent years), and that is in the > arena dealing with the areas of "illgotten gain" and "unlawful enrichment". > I am not quite sure that these areas deal only with the civil a

Re: [PEDA] OT employer topics WAS: License Legalities

2003-09-06 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Sure, you should work for your employer when he's paying your salary. > But, I have > heard of so many cases where a guy who designed aerospace parts, for > instance, > thinks up an idea for a better fishing reel, on his own time, and ends > up having to > give all profit to the employer. (Ther

Re: [PEDA] Prototype Assembly House

2003-09-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Yup, but the old days had entire boards covered with DIPs to do what I > can do now > with ONE very pedestrian Xilinx Spartan chip. And, if there is an error > (there is > ALWAYS an error or two) I can fix it in the configuration of the FPGA, > and don't > have to even hack a trace on the board,

Re: [PEDA] Prototype Assembly House

2003-09-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I can solder 0.5mm (19.685 mil) SMT IC's by hand no problem. BGAs are a different story... I can do that too. And my hand can slip, causing a solder bridge to an adjacent pin. It's a PITA to clear away that solder bridge from those small pins. Oh, how I long for DIP and 50mil SMT packages. I

Re: [PEDA] Prototype Assembly House

2003-09-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> It probably makes more sense to buy the parts yourself, and find > a part time person who can assemble it directly under the guidance > of the person who designed it. That's true if all you are using is TH or 50mil SMT. For smaller stuff and BGAs, how do you do that by hand with part time help?

Re: [PEDA] 3d PCB viewer

2003-08-28 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Can anyone tell me how 3d PCB viewer know, what type of capacitor (axial or radial) use? > I see all capacitors like "axial", but I know, 3d viewer can "radial" too. > Thanx. Sorry I don't have the answer, I'm just curious how well the 3D PCB viewer works. I've never tried it myself. I seem to

Re: [PEDA] Unacceptable Bug in Protel 99 SE SP6..!

2003-08-25 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> >[...] not me but 3 of our team members with new machine of P4 2.4Ghz on > >WinXP decide to leave 99se for Protel 2.8 and that included my superior > >who is fluent with Protel because he was "grown up" with it since his > >colledge days. > > Let's put it this way: why one would do so is a comple

Re: [PEDA] Unacceptable Bug in Protel 99 SE SP6..!

2003-08-19 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I would not accept this. 99SE is relatively mature and in a properly > configured system is stable. Windows 98 has known resource problems that > make 99SE less than satisfactory with W98 -- though usable, if one runs a > resource monitor and takes care not to run out of resources -- but with > W

Re: [PEDA] Analysing...

2003-08-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Or, improve on the motherboard chipset heatsink. This problem only reveals > itself in the warmest of summer months. AC doesn't seem to help, don't know > why. Maybe it's humidity & barometric pressure. What a robust design - NOT!!! I have an Asus twin-PIII mobo (CUV4X, IIRC). It works fine

Re: [PEDA] OT audio WAS PCB Copper thickness VS mounted rails.

2003-08-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
>My PCB does not have any fine traces. It's a pure CMOS class A audio amp > and power supply. 3-4 traces are 25 mil wide (audio in), everything else is > at least 50 mil wide, mostly 250 mil wide. Pure class A, eh? Those are the best sounding space heaters I know of ;-) When you say CMOS,

Re: [PEDA] Analysing...

2003-08-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Choong: My suggestions: 1) You may have a boot sector virus, or perhaps some other wacky software has installed data or code in your master boot record (on the C: drive). Some programs use copy protection schemes that do this - recent versions of Intuit's TurboTax programs do this, and it's cause

Re: [PEDA] Unacceptable Bug in Protel 99 SE SP6..!

2003-08-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
The trick to avoid auto-junctions where you don't want them is to make sure that endpoints of wires (and pins) don't intersect with any point on another wire. This means you have to be careful about how you place wires. Once you learn this behavior, it's not a problem. The problem with turning a

Re: [PEDA] Autoreply: ---- someone set this thing to stop rebroadcasting Au to replies ------

2003-08-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
It seems Mr. Watts has invented an e-mail oscillator ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Brooks,Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Discovery -> LAN Network pasue & hiccup patch.

2003-08-04 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> internet connection resumed, the problem came back. Like a fool, I > demilitarized 1 PC on the network, and within 5 minutes, I received my first > pop-up ad. No IE, or email running, just a blank Win2Kpro system after > booting. Now, the network hiccups disappeared, but I was open to viruses

Re: [PEDA] P99SE Sheet Symbol & Port connectivity across sheets.

2003-07-25 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Damn this list server is nearly completely broke, I posted a reply this morning and still haven't seen it show up yet, approx. 8 hours later. I haven't had one message cycle through the listserver in less than 5 - 7 hours in the past couple of days. No volume of posts and it is slower than it eve

Re: [PEDA] OT: DB9 RS-232 serial port on peripherals.

2003-07-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:43 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] OT: DB9 RS-232 s

Re: [PEDA] OT: DB9 RS-232 serial port on peripherals.

2003-07-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Pins 2, 3, and 5 only - If I wanted all those handshake lines, I might as > well use a parallel interface. If there is any chance you may be using a wireline modem or RF modem, you should consider putting DCD (Data Carrier Detect) in also. That way you know when you have a valid carrier. So RX

Re: [PEDA] OT: DB9 RS-232 serial port on peripherals.

2003-07-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Your peripheral is supposed to be a "DCE" (Data Communications Equipment), a DB9F wired as: 1 DCD 2 TX 3 RX 4 DSR 5 GND 6 DTR 7 CTS 8 RTS 9 RI The above DCE mates with the PC connector, which is supposed to be a "DTE" (Data Terminal Equipment), a DB9M wired as: 1 DCD 2 RX 3 TX 4 DTR 5 GND 6 DSR

Re: [PEDA] Printer Driver

2003-07-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> There are tools to redirect a printer port so you just get a postscript > printer in the windows dialog (that happens to be a physical XX printer). > You can also easily set up a linux printserver that appears as postscript > printers to the windows network pc's, and does the ripping and printing

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Printer Driver (was - Protel EDA Forum... was adjacent component placement D XP)

2003-07-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Phillip: I already checked the www.linuxprinting.org website. No support for Toshiba P351 in CUPS or Foomatic. They don't even list the Toshiba brand at all. If I knew how to write a printer driver for either Linux or Windows, and it wasn't too difficult, I'd do it and give the printer driver a

Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Forum... was adjacent component placeme nt D XP

2003-07-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I have no patience with people > who spout off unsubstatiated, illogical, and incorrect garbage, reagrdless > of whether it offends the ears or eyes of the current priveledged class. Are you referring to Hippies, Liberals, or the Green Party? ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. webs

Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Forum... TIME OUT, GUYS

2003-07-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> What's your point? That people should be diplomatic no matter what? Yeah, > right. Diplomacy is a two way street buddy. I have no patience with people > who spout off unsubstatiated, illogical, and incorrect garbage, reagrdless > of whether it offends the ears or eyes of the current priveledged c

Re: [PEDA] Printer Driver (was - Protel EDA Forum... was adjacentcomponent placement D XP)

2003-07-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yeah, I have tried several Epson LQ models with negative results so far. An IBM Proprinter emulation worked, but gave ugly results. The Toshiba P351 is a 24-pin dot matrix, and IIRC the IBM Proprinter was 9-pin. When using Proprinter emulation, the Toshiba gives the same ugly results as a real P

Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Forum... was adjacent component placement D XP

2003-07-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I've got a question on Wrico Pens and Linen . . . > > : - ) Well, as long as we're going off the deep end, I have an old Toshiba P351 (circa 1986) 24-pin dot matrix printer (wide carriage) that still works great. But no W2K drivers exist for it. Win95 has a Toshiba driver that works well, but

Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Forum... was adjacent component placement D XP

2003-07-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Personally, I don't mind seeing questions about DXP on this list. It's good to know what the issues are with DXP, because it gives insight as to how mature (or immature) DXP is, and if it's worth upgrading to. I can't answer any DXP questions because I don't have it, but I at least want to know o

Re: [PEDA] Nested Splits (Was - disappearing split planes)

2003-07-04 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
My experience with split planes in 99SE is that it doesn't work if you autoroute the board. I had a design about a year ago that I was initially going to use split planes on (3.3V and 5V nets on the same layer). After placing the split planes, using the autorouter would result in the 3_3V and 5V

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