Re: making windows compilation easier Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-02-03 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Brian Fisher wrote: On Jan 26, 2008 9:22 PM, Lenard Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: build_deps.py is included in with the Pygame source at SVN. But if there is the interest I will consider releasing a prebuilt dependencies zip file. Then only MinG

Re: making windows compilation easier Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-02-02 Thread Brian Fisher
On Jan 26, 2008 9:22 PM, Lenard Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > build_deps.py is included in with the Pygame source at SVN. But if there > is the interest I will consider releasing a prebuilt dependencies zip > file. Then only MinGW is needed. > > I would *love* to have a prebuilt dependenc

Re: making windows compilation easier Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-26 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Actually it has gotten easier. I automated the dependency build process using a single standalone Python program, build_deps.py. All that is needed is to obtain the necessary libraries and MinGW/Msys tools. The builder will first reconfigure MinGW for msvcr71.dll. Then it will build all the lib

making windows compilation easier Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-26 Thread René Dudfield
Nice work! I haven't tried it yet, but Instructions for building on windows with the free native gcc compiler(mingw) are here: http://pygame.org/wiki/MingW cheers, On Jan 25, 2008 8:56 AM, Lenard Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > René Dudfield wrote: > > hi, > > > > pygame 1.8 isn't out

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
René Dudfield wrote: hi, pygame 1.8 isn't out yet, so linking to it isn't a good idea. If you want to be able to submit changes to pygame, it's a good idea to set up a development environment. There has been quite a lot of work been put into making pygame easier to compile on windows with free

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Kamilche
Marcus von Appen wrote: too. It's still not released ;-). But don't you want beta testers? ;-) Put it under a heading of 'beta' - that'd be good. We all know that means 'use at your own risk.' --Kamilche

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread René Dudfield
hi, pygame 1.8 isn't out yet, so linking to it isn't a good idea. If you want to be able to submit changes to pygame, it's a good idea to set up a development environment. There has been quite a lot of work been put into making pygame easier to compile on windows with free compilers. Lenard has

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Marcus von Appen
On, Thu Jan 24, 2008, Kamilche wrote: > Marcus von Appen wrote: >> On, Thu Jan 24, 2008, Kamilche wrote: >> >>> Bo Jangeborg wrote: >> >> [...] >> What's stopping you from joining the developers ? It's a collaborative effort of volunteers as far as I know. Bo) >>> I

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Kamilche wrote: Lenard Lindstrom wrote: Kamilche wrote: Well, ctypes isn't as hard as I had feared. I've got an example running that blits some simple boxes and pictures to the screen. I must admit, getting it going did make use of my knowledge of the C programming language, tho. I couldn't

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Kamilche
Marcus von Appen wrote: On, Thu Jan 24, 2008, Kamilche wrote: Bo Jangeborg wrote: [...] What's stopping you from joining the developers ? It's a collaborative effort of volunteers as far as I know. Bo) I tried. I submitted some changes, some code samples, went to a Thursday online meeti

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Marcus von Appen
On, Thu Jan 24, 2008, Kamilche wrote: > Bo Jangeborg wrote: [...] >> What's stopping you from joining the developers ? It's a collaborative >> effort of volunteers as far as I know. >> >> Bo) >> > I tried. I submitted some changes, some code samples, went to a Thursday > online meeting - not

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread James Paige
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 02:45:10AM -0600, Luke Paireepinart wrote: > ... > DLLs are only available on Windows. They're called .so files on Linux > (and probably mac too.) ... On Mac they are called .dylib --- James Paige

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Kamilche
Bo Jangeborg wrote: Kamilche skrev: Luke Paireepinart wrote: Also - I was trying to make DLL's for Python in the past, and discovered the gnarly 'must have the same compiler Python was compiled with' error. Is that gone with Python 2.5? Basically - if I go to the effort of making a vanilla

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread James Paige
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 06:42:15AM -0800, Kamilche wrote: > > Well, I suppose I could fix up all the broken references enough to try > it out. I just wish pygame was receptive to other people's ideas. I've > submitted improvements to the examples before, and added features like > cross-platfor

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Bo Jangeborg
Kamilche skrev: Luke Paireepinart wrote: Also - I was trying to make DLL's for Python in the past, and discovered the gnarly 'must have the same compiler Python was compiled with' error. Is that gone with Python 2.5? Basically - if I go to the effort of making a vanilla C DLL, will it be c

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Kamilche
Luke Paireepinart wrote: Also - I was trying to make DLL's for Python in the past, and discovered the gnarly 'must have the same compiler Python was compiled with' error. Is that gone with Python 2.5? Basically - if I go to the effort of making a vanilla C DLL, will it be callable from Pyth

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-24 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Also - I was trying to make DLL's for Python in the past, and discovered the gnarly 'must have the same compiler Python was compiled with' error. Is that gone with Python 2.5? Basically - if I go to the effort of making a vanilla C DLL, will it be callable from Python ctypes even though it w

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Kamilche
Lenard Lindstrom wrote: Kamilche wrote: Well, ctypes isn't as hard as I had feared. I've got an example running that blits some simple boxes and pictures to the screen. I must admit, getting it going did make use of my knowledge of the C programming language, tho. I couldn't use pygame ctype

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Kamilche wrote: Well, ctypes isn't as hard as I had feared. I've got an example running that blits some simple boxes and pictures to the screen. I must admit, getting it going did make use of my knowledge of the C programming language, tho. I couldn't use pygame ctypes, because most of the ex

Re: Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Jones
Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I couldn't use pygame ctypes, because most of the examples were broken, > and I just didn't want to figure out why. Instead, I wrote a module to > interface to SDL directly, using the ctypes feature of Python 2.5. I was > happily surprised to discover that SD

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Kamilche wrote: Well, ctypes isn't as hard as I had feared. I've got an example running that blits some simple boxes and pictures to the screen. I must admit, getting it going did make use of my knowledge of the C programming language, tho. I couldn't use pygame ctypes, because most of the ex

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Kamilche
Well, ctypes isn't as hard as I had feared. I've got an example running that blits some simple boxes and pictures to the screen. I must admit, getting it going did make use of my knowledge of the C programming language, tho. I couldn't use pygame ctypes, because most of the examples were broke

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Brian Fisher
Sorry, Noah - I didn't mean to disparage your excellent work there - here is a link to an archive of your post with the files: http://archives.seul.org/pygame/users/Dec-2007/msg00125.html ...However I think to use that work you need to install macports and then work with your own ports file, right

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread René Dudfield
We're looking for a mac maintainer to finish off a couple of things. - update mac version of pygame.scrap (clipboard) to use the new api. - build an installer, and write instructions on how to make the installer here: - http://pygame.org/wiki/MacCompile So if anyone can do either of those th

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Brian Fisher wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 12:16 PM, Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, if there's no windows installer for it, and hasn't been for three years, how supported is it, really? It's too much to expect the average developer to have the same build

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Brian Fisher
On Jan 23, 2008 12:16 PM, Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if there's no windows installer for it, and hasn't been for three > years, how supported is it, really? It's too much to expect the average > developer to have the same build tools and correctly compile all the > sources, just

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Alex Holkner
On 1/24/08, Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Kamilche wrote: > > Well, I'm looking at using ctypes and SDL right now... wish me luck. > > http://www.pygame.org/ctypes/ The Pygame-ctypes page should be updated. The package has fallen several years behind compatibilit

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Richard Jones
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Kamilche wrote: > Well, I'm looking at using ctypes and SDL right now... wish me luck. http://www.pygame.org/ctypes/ Richard

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Marcus von Appen
On, Wed Jan 23, 2008, Kamilche wrote: [...] > Well, if there's no windows installer for it, and hasn't been for three > years, how supported is it, really? It's too much to expect the average > developer to have the same build tools and correctly compile all the > sources, just to use the late

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Kamilche
Marcus von Appen wrote: On, Wed Jan 23, 2008, Kamilche wrote: Patrick Devine wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 9:59 AM, Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it's still not available, what have people migrated to for their Python 2.5 game development? Are they using ctypes with SDL, or something? I th

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Marcus von Appen
On, Wed Jan 23, 2008, Kamilche wrote: > Patrick Devine wrote: >> On Jan 23, 2008 9:59 AM, Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> If it's still not available, what have people migrated to for their >>> Python 2.5 game development? Are they using ctypes with SDL, or something? >> >> I thought ever

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Kamilche
Patrick Devine wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 9:59 AM, Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If it's still not available, what have people migrated to for their Python 2.5 game development? Are they using ctypes with SDL, or something? I thought everyone was using Pyglet now. :-D -pdev. Well, I'm loo

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Patrick Devine
On Jan 23, 2008 9:59 AM, Kamilche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's still not available, what have people migrated to for their > Python 2.5 game development? Are they using ctypes with SDL, or something? I thought everyone was using Pyglet now. :-D -pdev.

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Brian Fisher
I'm currently running the python 2.5 installer for 1.7.1 from the pygame download page: http://pygame.org/download.shtml http://pygame.org/ftp/pygame-1.7.1release.win32-py2.5.exe then to get sound and font loading from a file-like object working I replace the sdl dll's with the ones here: http://t

Re: [pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Kamilche wrote: When is version 1.8 of pygame coming out? I went looking on the Internet, and saw lots of messages about 'any week now' dating back to 2006. What I need is a windows installer of pygame 1.8 that runs with Python 2.5. I don't have all the prerequisite compilers and packages to

[pygame] When is pygame 1.8 coming out?

2008-01-23 Thread Kamilche
When is version 1.8 of pygame coming out? I went looking on the Internet, and saw lots of messages about 'any week now' dating back to 2006. What I need is a windows installer of pygame 1.8 that runs with Python 2.5. I don't have all the prerequisite compilers and packages to compile my own v