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work to improve GitHub CI configs to make it more likely for users to test
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also likely the only ones who would
apply a backport to 3.6. Anything shipping Python <=3.8 or earlier *should*
have an interest in patching.
fwiw the forum I would've used for this is the github issue itself as that
is the canonical discussion.
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>>>> > I copied and modified a PEG grammar ruleset from another open source
>>>> project and I've already noticed some problems (ex Newline vs NL) with how
>>>> they transcribed things.
then it would be a valid subtype of Response. This
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>>> project and I've already noticed some problems (ex Newline vs NL) with how
>>> they transcribed things.
>>> >
>>> > I am suspecting that CPython's grammar NEWLINE is a builtin rule for
>>> the parser that is something like `(Newline+ | NL+ ) {NOP}` but wanted to
>>> san
ced some problems (ex Newline vs NL) with how
>> they transcribed things.
>> >
>> > I am suspecting that CPython's grammar NEWLINE is a builtin rule for
>> the parser that is something like `(Newline+ | NL+ ) {NOP}` but wanted to
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>>> they transcribed things.
>>> >
>>> > I am suspecting that CPython's grammar NEWLINE is a builtin rule for
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>>
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>> project and I've already noticed some problems (ex Newline vs NL) with how
>> they transcribed things.
>> >
>> > I am suspecting that CPython's grammar NEWLINE is a builtin rule for
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t's definitely a bug.
If it was complaining about the pattern then it might or might not be a
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What's more the regex i correctly recognized and does not cause any issues in
other regexp implementations, e.g. the online tool https://regex101.com/
Could somebody help me decide whether this is indeed a bug?
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Thanks, yes, that was my last resort: inspecting the code through debugging the
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¿how does Python 3 versions manage Distributed File Systems and in particular
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> need to give solution to this.
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> nice to know what is causing this in Python < 3.10.2.
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People are free to continue to use python-dev, it just no longer has any
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unsubscribed. I certainly have ignored this discussion here, even though
(our of nostalgia, mostly) I am still subscribed.
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> Without RAII - introduced the most dangerous errors !!
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> Is any plan to try and fix memory leaks when embedding Python in a C/C++
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Please file issues on github with details if you find problems.
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Hello,
I'm afraid you misundertood my message. I'm not discussing the choice of
Discourse as a communication medium (which would be futile after the
decision has been made), just the thematic perimeter that would make up
an equivalent of Python-dev (for those hundreds of us who happened to
like
;
> I believe indeed that the devguide should provide complete guidance
> towards getting a python-dev equivalent using mailing-list mode, to
> avoid many users having to reinvent the wheel. I don't have enough
> experience to give such advice myself (yet).
>
> > But I don't thi
could standardize?
> Open a PR on the devguide. You shouldn't need an official hat-wearer
> around, unless there's a disagreement.
I believe indeed that the devguide should provide complete guidance
towards getting a python-dev equivalent using mailing-list mode, to
avoid many users having to rei
't want to say that this concept must be followed
everywhere or that "X|None" is necessarily a bad thing. After all, I'd
still love to see Python supporting such None-aware operators.
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or `obj.isnull()` then you haven't really gained much.
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[1] hopefully "we don't see anything that would block Python
development" doesn't mean alternatives to the (slow and annoying) web
interface are abandoned.
[2]
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/UZJ27G57F7QJJ2LYBDGZQ5BIXLH7OXWJ/
Viktorin a é
t" doesn't mean alternatives to the (slow and annoying) web
interface are abandoned.
[2]
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Viktorin a écrit :
> As mentioned previously [0], the Steering Council decided to switch from
&g
boptimal "| None"
> pattern, it is probably good to tell folks right there why they should
> consider better alternatives.
>
> As mentioned, I absolutely see Steve's point. However, there are many
> Python scripts/programs working without a complex API, where this
On Sep 20, 2022, at 02:47, Petr Viktorin wrote:
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> Note that you can have development-related discussions anywhere, as long as
> you (eventually) include all relevant people. You're welcome to continue
> using python-dev and other mailing lists, IRC, in-person sprints, etc. Bu
As mentioned previously [0], the Steering Council decided to switch from
python-dev to Discourse (discuss.python.org).
We're aware that Discourse is not perfect. The previous mail thread [0]
lists various shortcomings, as well as some workarounds. However, we
don't see anything that would block
r alternatives.
As mentioned, I absolutely see Steve's point. However, there are many
Python scripts/programs working without a complex API, where this "|
None" pattern may still have its legitimate uses and the none-aware
operators can make code easier to read (and writ
may still have its legitimate uses and the none-aware
operators can make code easier to read (and write).
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> Python scripts/programs working without a complex API, where this "|
> None" pattern may still have its legitimate uses and the non
other hand, a language as dynamic as Python probably is just not
designed for an optimizer, so either you do it by hand or use an
extension module to speed critical parts up. Fair enough.
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I've hoped for too much
when reading about caching. Maybe sometimes in the future, who knows...
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the
problem with the operator used to represent it - although this topic has
also been raised).
Take a look at the response by Steve Dower:
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= book.publisher.owner.phone if book.publisher else None
then they behave exactly the same. If we would misspell "owner" then in both
versions we'd get the same AttributeError under the same conditions.
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> like it), but I still wanted to propose it here as well, because I do think
> it's a good solution to the complaints that the ? operator looks cryptic.
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https://github.com/python/mypy/issues/4468
[2] pure-func module: https://pypi.org/project/pure-func/
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n=True) includes all of the conventionally hidden
directories and hidden files in the current directory.
sounds like a good point to me.
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f *include_hidden* is true, "``**``" pattern will match hidden
> directories.
>
> ,,, with no mention of the other patterns.
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(i)
return(''.join(l))
def strangelt(s,j,m):
l=[]
for i in s:
if(i==s[j]):
i=m
l.append(i)
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* still current threads are not so aggressively scrubbed from core-dev.rss;
and/or
* "category" tags are added to posts.rss;
and/or
* per-category posts.rss are finally implemented.
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HorizSpace} and \p{VertSpace}, so I'm going
> with that.
+1 for special Unicode categories rather than retargetting existing
escapes for something else.
(also, matching horizontal/vertical whitespace sounds rather unusual)
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} and \p{vt} for horizontal and vertical whitespaces.
It's not just Java. Perl supports all 4 of \h, \H, \v and \V. That might
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s I can tell, only ProgressSQL uses them, and, even then, it's for what everyone else writes as `\b` and `\B`.
>
> I want the regex module to remain compatible with the re module, in case they get added there sometime in the future.
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ar as I can tell, only ProgressSQL uses them, and, even then, it's for
> what everyone else writes as `\b` and `\B`.
>
> I want the regex module to remain compatible with the re module, in case they
> get added there sometime in the future.
>
> Opinions?
> _
for what everyone else writes as `\b` and `\B`.
I want the regex module to remain compatible with the re module, in case
they get added there sometime in the future.
Opinions?
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