Hi all,
I won't be able to make it to the summit and probably not the
conference. I have a raging 104F fever (40C for many of you =)
The doctor says I have influenza and am highly contagious, so I
shouldn't be going anywhere near conference full of people for five
days - looks like I'm missing
On 5 Mar 2013, at 05:39, Jeff Hardy jdha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk
wrote:
On 1 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:32:23 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Jeff Hardy jdha...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you misremembered - there's lots of code that uses
`sys.platform == 'win32'` to detect Windows, but sys.platform is 'cli'
for IronPython. I'm pretty sure `os.name has always been 'nt' (when
running on Windows), and if
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:55 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com
fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking that this is a bit of a historical mistake on our
part. I'm strongly considering setting os.name properly in Jython3.
In fairness to Jython implementers past - it wasn't a mistake but a
Le Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:46:07 +1300,
Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net a écrit :
On 4 March 2013 19:40, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Your feedback on http://bugs.python.org/issue16997 would be greatly
appreciated.
Done directly to Antoine on IRC the other day in a
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote:
It is of course possible for subunit and related tools to run their
own implementation, but it seems ideal to me to have a common API
which regular unittest, nose, py.test and others can all agree on and
use : better reuse for pretty printers,
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote:
It is of course possible for subunit and related tools to run their
own implementation, but it seems ideal to me to have a common API
which regular unittest, nose,
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote:
It is of course possible for subunit and related tools to run their
own implementation, but it
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote:
It is of
On Mar 04, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
And One True Way of invoking and/or discovering how to invoke, a package's
test suite.
How does unittest's test discovery not solve that?
I should have added from the command line. E.g. is it:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:51:04 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
And One True Way of invoking and/or discovering how to invoke, a package's
test suite.
How does unittest's test discovery not solve that?
I should have added from
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:51:04 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
And One True Way of invoking and/or discovering how to invoke, a package's
test suite.
How
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py test
$ python setup.py nosetests
$ python -m nose test
$ nosetests-X.Y
Besides having a multitude of choices, there's almost no way to
automatically discover (e.g. by metadata inspection
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py test
$ python setup.py nosetests
$ python -m nose test
$ nosetests-X.Y
Besides having a multitude of choices, there's
On 5 March 2013 05:34, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote:
It is of course possible for subunit and related tools to run their
own implementation, but it seems ideal
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Berker Peksağ berker.pek...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py test
$ python setup.py nosetests
$ python -m
On 5 March 2013 05:51, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
I should have added from the command line. E.g. is it:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py test
$ python setup.py nosetests
$ python -m nose test
$ nosetests-X.Y
$ testr run
:)
Besides having a multitude of
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:02 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
setup.py's setup(test_suite=x)... not sure if this is a distutils or
setuptools feature. PEP 426 has an extension mechanism that could do
the job.
Shouldn't testing be a first order feature?
-Barry
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:02 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
setup.py's setup(test_suite=x)... not sure if this is a distutils or
setuptools feature. PEP 426 has an extension mechanism that could do
the job.
Shouldn't testing be a first
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:40 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:02 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
setup.py's setup(test_suite=x)... not sure if this is a distutils or
setuptools feature. PEP 426 has an extension mechanism
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:40 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:02 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
setup.py's setup(test_suite=x)... not sure if this
On Mar 04, 2013, at 05:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
Sure, but that has nothing to do with programmatic package discovery.
That's something you will have to do as a person in making a qualitative
decision along the same lines as API design. Flipping a bit in a config
file saying I have tests doesn't
On 3 Mar 2013, at 01:29, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 08:51:16AM -0800, Michael Foord wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I
can add them to the agenda.
Hmm, seems like this might be a good forum to introduce the
On 3/4/2013 5:24 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
What I'm looking for is something that automated tools can use to easily
discover how to run a package's tests. I want it to be dead simple for
developers of a package to declare how their tests are to be run, and what
I am writing a package that has
On 5 Mar 2013 05:21, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py test
$ python setup.py nosetests
$ python -m nose test
$ nosetests-X.Y
Besides having a multitude of choices, there's
On 4 Mar 2013, at 06:26, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
On 4 March 2013 18:54, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the
On 4 Mar 2013, at 19:26, Berker Peksağ berker.pek...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
$ python -m unittest discover
$ python setup.py test
$ python setup.py nosetests
$ python -m nose
On 5 March 2013 13:21, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
We can certainly talk about it - although as Guido says, something specific
may be easier to have a useful discussion about.
Reading through your blog articles it seemed like a whole lot of subunit
context was required
On 28 Feb 2013, at 13:49, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk
wrote:
On 28 Feb 2013, at 07:36, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 27.02.2013 17:51, schrieb Michael Foord:
Hello all,
PyCon, and
On 4 Mar 2013, at 20:02, Daniel Holth dho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Berker Peksağ berker.pek...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:41 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
$ python -m unittest discover
On 1 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:32:23 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On the other hand in some ways Jython is sort of like Python on a
weird virtual OS that lets the real OS bleed through some. This may
still need to be
On 5 Mar 2013, at 00:23, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
On 5 March 2013 13:21, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
We can certainly talk about it - although as Guido says, something specific
may be easier to have a useful discussion about.
Reading through
On 5 March 2013 13:50, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Right - all I wanted was to flag that you and I and any other
interested parties should discuss this at the summit :).
I've added a testing topic to the agenda. At the very least you could outline
your streaming test
On 4 Mar 2013, at 22:24, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 05:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
Sure, but that has nothing to do with programmatic package discovery.
That's something you will have to do as a person in making a qualitative
decision along the same lines as
On 4 Mar 2013, at 20:00, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
On 5 March 2013 05:34, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 07:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote:
It is of course possible
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 1 Mar 2013, at 18:38, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:32:23 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On the other hand in some ways Jython is sort of like Python on a
weird
Stefan Krah, 02.03.2013 21:01:
Stefan Behnel wrote:
I'm not so happy with the argument clinic, but that's certainly also
because I'm biased. I've written the argument unpacking code for Cython
some years ago, so it's not surprising that I'm quite happy with that and
fail to see the need for a
On Mar 2, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
On 28 February 2013 05:51, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do so.
The
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the
standard library testing facilities.
That seems like too big a topic and too vague a description to discuss
usefully. Perhaps you have a specific
On 4 March 2013 18:54, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the
standard library testing facilities.
That seems like too big a topic and too
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
On 4 March 2013 18:54, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the
On 4 March 2013 19:40, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Your feedback on http://bugs.python.org/issue16997 would be greatly
appreciated.
Done directly to Antoine on IRC the other day in a conversation with
him and Michael about the compatability impact of subtests. Happy to
do a full
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Robert Collins
robe...@robertcollins.net wrote:
On 4 March 2013 19:40, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Your feedback on http://bugs.python.org/issue16997 would be greatly
appreciated.
Done directly to Antoine on IRC the other day in a conversation with
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:33 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
The easy part for Jython is pushing some of our if is_jython: stuff
into the appropriate
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org wrote:
It'd mean smaller code objects and less bloat from constants (docstrings for
one implementation vs another, etc) being in memory. Taken further, this
could even be extended beyond implementations to platforms as we have
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Michael Foord, 27.02.2013 17:51:
It's also true that many of the topics above aren't really interesting for
us, because we just inherit them with CPython, e.g. stdlib changes.
Packaging is only relevant as far as it
And I'd really like to see a CPython summit
happen at some point. There's so much interesting stuff going on in that
area that it's worth getting some people together to move these things
forward.
Yes, a CPython runtime summit some year would be interesting.
Cheers,
Nick.
I don't see
Hi Nick,
thanks for the feedback.
Nick Coghlan, 02.03.2013 17:58:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Michael Foord, 27.02.2013 17:51:
It's also true that many of the topics above aren't really interesting for
us, because we just inherit them with CPython, e.g. stdlib
Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
I'm not so happy with the argument clinic, but that's certainly also
because I'm biased. I've written the argument unpacking code for Cython
some years ago, so it's not surprising that I'm quite happy with that and
fail to see the need for a totally
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:39:52 +
Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Perhaps someone wants to discuss
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0428/, but I won't be there and the
PEP isn't terribly up-to-date either :-)
If you can find someone familiar with pathlib to champion
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 08:51:16AM -0800, Michael Foord wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I
can add them to the agenda.
Hmm, seems like this might be a good forum to introduce the
parallel/async stuff I've been working on the past few months.
Michael Foord, 27.02.2013 17:51:
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do so.
The agenda of topics for discussion so far includes the
On Feb 28, 2013, at 08:44 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry I meant is_jython as a sort of shorthand for a case by case
check. It would be cool if we had a nice set of checks somewhere like
is_refcounted, etc. Would the sys.implementation area be a good
place for such things?
Yep. Unless
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Michael Foord, 27.02.2013 17:51:
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:32:23 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On the other hand in some ways Jython is sort of like Python on a
weird virtual OS that lets the real OS bleed through some. This may
still need to be checked in that way (there's are still checks of if
os.name == 'nt'
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:33 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
The easy part for Jython is pushing some of our if is_jython: stuff
into the appropriate spots in CPython's Lib/.
I wonder if there isn't a better way to do this than
Le Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:33:30 -0800,
fwierzbi...@gmail.com fwierzbi...@gmail.com a écrit :
There are a couple of spots that might be more controversial. For
example, Jython has a file Lib/zlib.py that implements zlib in terms
of the existing Java support for zlib. I do wonder if such a file is
On 28/02/13 07:20, anatoly techtonik wrote:
* as an exercise - try to build a scroller for a running Python script
* it is impossible for Python 2 and probably for Python 3 as well
What do you mean by a scroller?
[...]
and why PSF doesn't comply the 4. Redistribution clause
On Feb 27, 2013, at 3:20 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
* security by obscurity in legal position of PSF towards contributors
https://code.google.com/legal/individual-cla-v1.0.html
vs
http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ +
On 28 Feb 2013, at 07:36, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 27.02.2013 17:51, schrieb Michael Foord:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but
On 27 Feb 2013, at 18:50, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:51:16 +
Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ + http://opensource.org/
licenses/apache2.0.php
and why PSF doesn't comply the 4. Redistribution clause from Apache 2.0
license
I'm not even touching your security through
On 27 Feb 2013, at 19:01, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk
wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I can
add them to the agenda.
I'd like to discuss merging Jython's standard Lib (the
On 28 Feb 2013, at 03:42, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 04:51 PM, Michael Foord wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I can
add them to the agenda.
I'd like to have some discussions around promotion of Python 3, how we can
On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Stefan Krah ste...@bytereef.org wrote:
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ + http://opensource.org/
licenses/apache2.0.php
and why PSF doesn't comply the 4. Redistribution clause from Apache 2.0
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:48:24 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com a écrit :
Perhaps it's an idea to have a python-legal mailing list for these
topics?
I don't think it's fundamentally wrong to scrutinize licenses,
provided that the discussion stays civil and factual.
IIRC
On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:48:24 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com a écrit :
Perhaps it's an idea to have a python-legal mailing list for these
topics?
I don't think it's fundamentally wrong to scrutinize licenses,
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:57:36 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:48:24 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com a écrit :
Perhaps it's an idea to have a python-legal mailing list
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
We have one: p...@python.org
That's not exactly a public mailing-list.
Nope. But it's also where lawyers flock and these issues can rapidly be
resolved.
If the list isn't publicly archived, the same questions will arise over
and over again
On Feb 28, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:57:36 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
wrote:
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:48:24 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com
On Feb 28, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 28, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:57:36 -0500,
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net
Stefan Krah writes:
Why would [the PSF list] help to resolve such an issue (if it is an
issue at all!)
Precisely.
If there *is* a compliance problem, there's nothing to be done before
talking to the lawyers. Although license *choice* is primarily a
political issue, *compliance* is
On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Stefan Krah writes:
Why would [the PSF list] help to resolve such an issue (if it is an
issue at all!)
Precisely.
If there *is* a compliance problem, there's nothing to be done before
talking to the lawyers.
On 28/02/13 23:26, Stefan Krah wrote:
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
We have one: p...@python.org
That's not exactly a public mailing-list.
Nope. But it's also where lawyers flock and these issues can rapidly be
resolved.
If the list isn't publicly archived, the same questions
Le Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:21:48 +1100,
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info a écrit :
The question of whether or not the PSF is violating the Apache
license in some way is not one that is helped by having arbitrary
people give their uninformed opinions. I sympathize with curious
people wanting
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.ukwrote:
On 28 Feb 2013, at 07:36, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 27.02.2013 17:51, schrieb Michael Foord:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a
good number of
2013/2/28 Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk
wrote:
On 28 Feb 2013, at 07:36, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 27.02.2013 17:51, schrieb Michael Foord:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.orgwrote:
2013/2/28 Brett Cannon br...@python.org:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Foord
fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk
wrote:
On 28 Feb 2013, at 07:36, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Stefan Krah wrote:
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com (mailto:jnol...@gmail.com) wrote:
We have one: p...@python.org (mailto:p...@python.org)
That's not exactly a public mailing-list.
Nope. But it's also where lawyers flock and
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
The question of whether or not the PSF is violating the Apache license in
some way is not one that is helped by having arbitrary people give their
uninformed opinions.
No one will be preventing lawyers from giving their opinions on python-legal.
In
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
Why would it help to resolve such an issue (if it is an issue at all!)
for a single person on a private mailing list?
See: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-February/124463.html
That was quick. Thanks!
Stefan Krah
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Stefan Krah wrote:
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com (mailto:jnol...@gmail.com) wrote:
Why would it help to resolve such an issue (if it is an issue at all!)
for a single person on a private mailing list?
See:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:33 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
I am suggesting that we push forward on the shared library approach to the
files in the Lib/* directory, so that would certainly include IronPython and
PyPy as well I
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:33 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
The easy part for Jython is pushing some of our if is_jython: stuff
into the appropriate spots
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:33:30 -0800,
fwierzbi...@gmail.com fwierzbi...@gmail.com a écrit :
There are a couple of spots that might be more controversial. For
example, Jython has a file Lib/zlib.py that implements zlib in
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do so.
The agenda of topics
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good number
of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the language
summit but haven't let me know please do so.
The agenda of topics for discussion so far includes the following:
* A report on
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Michael Foord
mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do so.
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:51:16 +
Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I can
add them to the agenda.
I'd like to discuss merging Jython's standard Lib (the *.py files). We
have in the past had agreement that this
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com
fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.uk
wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I
can add them to the agenda.
I'd like to discuss merging
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
Do you mean more generally getting more pure Python implementations of
modules in the stdlib? If so then as a reference there is
http://bugs.python.org/issue16651 which lists the modules in the stdlib w/
only extension
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Michael Foord mich...@voidspace.org.ukwrote:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do so.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com
fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a couple of spots that might be more controversial. For
example, Jython has a file Lib/zlib.py that implements zlib in terms
of the existing Java support for zlib. I do wonder if such a file is
On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:33 AM, fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote:
I am suggesting that we push forward on the shared library approach to the
files in the Lib/* directory, so that would certainly include IronPython and
PyPy as well I hope.
+1
The easy part for Jython is pushing some of our if
On Feb 27, 2013, at 04:51 PM, Michael Foord wrote:
If you have other items you'd like to discuss please let me know and I can
add them to the agenda.
I'd like to have some discussions around promotion of Python 3, how we can
accelerate its adoption, availability of supporting packages, what
Am 27.02.2013 17:51, schrieb Michael Foord:
Hello all,
PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good
number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the
language summit but haven't let me know please do so.
The agenda of topics for
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