Title: PyAr - Python Argentina 8th Meeting, today
The Argentine Python User Group, PyAr, will have its eighth
meeting today at 7:00pm.
Agenda
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Despite our agenda tends to be rather open, this time we would
like to cover these topics:
- Conclusions of PyAr in PyCon 2005.
- See
I'm pleased to announce the release of ZODB 3.3.1 (final). You can download
a source tarball or Windows installer from:
http://zope.org/Products/ZODB3.3
Note that there are two Windows installers this time, for Python 2.3 and
Python 2.4. Choose the one appropriate for your version of
Dick Moores wrote:
Paul Rubin wrote at 18:20 4/13/2005:
Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need to figure out how to compute pi to base 12, to as many
digits
as possible. I found this reference,
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Base.html, but I really don't
understand it well
The python rationale is We are all consenting adults..
You shoukd change tens to _tens and ones to _ones, in order to
syntacticly mark these attributes as internal.
If someone not consenting, wants to mess with your internal
representation, it's his fault.
HTH,
Gerald
Marcus Goldfish schrieb:
I'd
Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
On 4/14/05, Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Ewing wrote:
(Darn. I finally say something that gets into Quote of the
Week, and it's attributed to someone else! :-) :-) :-)
+1 on this for meta-QOTW,
I'm writing some sort of replacement for the Queue module.
I'm calling the class I'm writing a tube. However I'm stuck
in how I should write some testcases.
The tube will have an open method, with as argument an
access parameter that will determine if the thread wants
to put things (write) on the
Martin Franklin wrote:
Peter Moscatt wrote:
I am having trouble understanding the methods for the Listbox from Tk.
If I was to select at item in the list using a mouse click (have already
created the bind event) - what method returns the text of the selected
item ?
Pete
Pete,
Raffi wrote:
Hi All,
I hope I'm posting this question to the correct newsgroups. We have a
web based database application that's accessed using IE. The
application opens a popup window to run in. With all the popup blockers
and compromised browsers out there, I'm looking into developing a web
Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The tube will have an open method, with as argument an
access parameter that will determine if the thread wants
to put things (write) on the queue or will get (read) things
from the queue (or both). Now what I want is that a thread that
opens the tube
Instead of using regular expressions, you could perhaps
use a multiple keyword matcher, and then for each match,
replace it with the correct string.
http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~dyoo/python/ahocorasick/
contains the Aho-Corasick algorithm written in C with
a Python extension.
Maurice LING wrote:
On 7 Apr 2005 21:20:19 GMT, rumours say that Leo Breebaart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] might have written:
[Max about Leo]
This guys famous in the alternative universe of
alt.fan.pratchett.
The little imp stopped moving the memory blocks around as soon as it
heard the distinct click of the name
Peter Moscatt wrote:
Martin Franklin wrote:
Peter Moscatt wrote:
I am having trouble understanding the methods for the Listbox from Tk.
If I was to select at item in the list using a mouse click (have already
created the bind event) - what method returns the text of the selected
item ?
Pete
Unknown User schrieb:
I am a Python programmer and I'm thinking about learning PHP, which is
similar to C++
wrong
(quite different from Python).
true
I want to start writing web applications. Do you think if I learn
PHP I'll develop faster?
Nobody but you can anawer this question. You'll have
Maurice LING schrieb:
Hi,
I have the following codes:
from __future__ import nested_scopes
[...]
Are you still using Python 2.1?
In every later version you don't need the
from __future__ import nested_scopes line.
So, if you are using Python 2.1 I strongly recommend
upgrading to Python 2.4.1.
Le 15/04/05 1:54, « Thomas Nelson » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I'm on a mac OS X (10.3.8), and I seem to have accidentally destroyed
the default python installation. How should I put it on? Do I need to
use the unix version? any help would be greatly appreciated.
There is also a list
Unknown User wrote:
I have the choice.
Thanks for your opinion,
If you have a look at CherryPy (www.cherrypy.org) you will not want to
go back to PHP again! ;-)
Lorenzo
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:38:26 +0200, rumours say that harold fellermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] might have written:
1. Are you doing an single process application that produces output on
many terminals? ie the program is kind of like a service?
gotcha. I want to write a TCP server that handles
Martin Franklin wrote:
Peter Moscatt wrote:
Martin Franklin wrote:
Peter Moscatt wrote:
I am having trouble understanding the methods for the Listbox from Tk.
If I was to select at item in the list using a mouse click (have already
created the bind event) - what method returns the text of
Daewon YOON wrote:
Hi.
I tried to convert a bdf file using pilfont.py script. Instead producing
pretty font images, it complained like following.
**
daewian:~/fonting$ ./pilfont.py gulim24.bdf
gulim24.bdf...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./pilfont.py, line 47, in ?
The Internal error in regular expression engine occurs also
in Python 2.4.0 when creating a regular expression containing
more than or's (|).
Dennis Benzinger wrote:
Maurice LING schrieb:
Hi,
I have the following codes:
from __future__ import nested_scopes
[...]
Are you still using Python
Philippe:
Since I need to access a local/client device from the page and
that I wish to be cross-platform; does that mean Java is my only
way out ?
Java is designed to be safe and not allow access to client devices.
There is a mechanism where you can attempt to ask for permission from
Hi,
I have no more need to corret my code's bugs and send to clp group a
working application (I don't think that there was an eager
expectation...).
Your code is perfectly working (as you can expect from a guru...).
Thank you and bye.
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Hi,
I have a question about Python. I know that it is an interpreted
language, meaning a python program is converted to binary on the fly
each time it is run, or compiled.
What would be the purpose of compiling? I guess the compiled python
code (question, is compiled python code called byte
I need a SQL Server or ODBC package for Python. Can anyone help please?
Have search the Python packages under Database and there is no reference to
either SQL Server or ODBC.
Thanks
Graham
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codecraig wrote:
I have a question about Python. I know that it is an interpreted
language, meaning a python program is converted to binary on the fly
each time it is run, or compiled.
What would be the purpose of compiling? I guess the compiled python
code (question, is compiled python
On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supercomputer and encryption and compression @ rate of 96%
snip
Dear Sir or Madam,
I have received notification that you posted a compression algorithm on
the newsgroup comp.lang.python on or about 10:27:26 on the 04/14/2005. I am
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
Hi,
What do you mean ? Is that a client-side or server-side script ?
Client side
So I can't help you...
Where ?
Programming Python - O'Reilly - 2nd edition - by Mark Lutz - Paragraph
Teaching IE about Python - Pages 922-925
Thanks, I'll have a look one day.
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thanks.
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R. C. James Harlow wrote:
On Thursday 14 April 2005 10:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supercomputer and encryption and compression @ rate of 96%
snip
Dear Sir or Madam,
I have received notification that you posted a compression algorithm on
the newsgroup comp.lang.python on or about 10:27:26
Hi,
I am commanding a robot through a laptop keyboard and I would like to
be able to record the different keys I hit in order to achieve a
certain goal. I looked at PyHook,
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=65529package_id=92632release_id=307838
but it seems to only be
Thanks Simon
I have just installed mxODBC and tried one of their samples.
Am getting an error on trying to import mx.ODBC
ImportError: No module named mx.ODBC
After the install the mx folder has been place in my C:\Program Files\Plone
2\Python\lib\site-packages folder however when I browse
Unknown User wrote:
I am a Python programmer and I'm thinking about learning PHP, which is
similar to C++ (quite
different from Python). I want to start writing web applications. Do
you think if I learn
PHP I'll develop faster? Does PHP have more features? How about the
speed of execution?
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
Since I need to access a local/client device from the page and that I wish
to be cross-platform; does that mean Java is my only way out ?
Or you could try Jython (http://www.jython.org/).
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If I have been able to see further, it was only because I stood
on the
Hi,
I´m with problem to create a executable program in
python.
I´m using py2exe but i don´t know if it´s
right.
My setup.py:
from distutils.core import setupimport
py2exefrom glob import glob
setup( # The first three
parameters are not required, if at least a # 'version' is
given, then
On 4/15/05, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Simon
I have just installed mxODBC and tried one of their samples.
Am getting an error on trying to import mx.ODBC
ImportError: No module named mx.ODBC
After the install the mx folder has been place in my C:\Program Files\Plone
If you simply want the latest python to run from the command line, then
compiling the source code works fine on the mac. I just installed
2.4.1 on Os 10.3.8 last week without any problems.
http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.1/Python-2.4.1.tgz
./configure
make
make install
J.S.
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Neil,
Would Jpython let me do that ?
Would java let me call an external Python script - which in turn would
access my device ?
Thanks
Philippe
Neil Hodgson wrote:
Philippe:
Since I need to access a local/client device from the page and
that I wish to be cross-platform; does that mean
codecraig wrote:
hi,
how can i use python to figure the ip address of the machine which
the python script is running on? I dont mean like 127.0.0.1but i
want the external IP address (such as ipconfig on windows displays).
any ideas??
THanks
To get the public IP (like when you're behind a
codecraig wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about Python. I know that it is an interpreted
language,
Nope. A *language* is neither compiled nor interpreted. An
*implementation* of a language can use strict interpretation, byte-code
compilation + VM, or native code compilation (it could as well use
I do have a standard install of Python as well as Plone. Can you have two?
I have run the mxInstaller for both instances however, whether I run
the ide from my standard install or my plone install the pythonpath is the
same (ie c:\...\plone 2\python). My machine registry now has the python
I'll take a lok, thanks
Roel Schroeven wrote:
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
Since I need to access a local/client device from the page and that I
wish to be cross-platform; does that mean Java is my only way out ?
Or you could try Jython (http://www.jython.org/).
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http://pyre.third-bit.com/pyweb/
It is a project aimed at helping web app developers to figure out which
frameworks to use, etc.
good luck!
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codecraig wrote:
How can I get the OS Name, such as Windows XP Pro. I know I can do
sys.getwindowsversion but that doesnt return a nice Windows XP Pro
string.
and os.name gives nt
thanks.
Read the docs... sys.getwindowsversion() should do the trick. AFAIK,
there is no way to differentiate
i guess i wanted the result in a nice string like Windows XP instead of
5.1
i guess i'll have to convert it myself, thanks
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Thanks Jim,
From all I hear, it looks like the client authentication will have tobe made
on the side of the browser, between the server and a specific program
running on the client. Not as nice but
Regards,
Philippe
On Friday 15 April 2005 08:52 am, James Carroll wrote:
I don't
Hi list,
I have troubles with some python scripts I use as cgi scripts with
thttpd. At irregular intervals when a post is made an IOError is raised
by the CGI module. My question is how and why does this happen?
The exception looks like this:
---
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
where can I get wmi module, it doesnt come with Python right?
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Hi guys,
How do I go about getting the http response status as with the httplib
method connection_handle.getresponse() using urllib2?
Thing is I need to authenticate with a server, which I can do with urllib2
(by passing credentials), but I also need to get the status response codes
and not
[codecraig]
| where can I get wmi module, it doesnt come with Python right?
|
Sorry, should have said.
http://timgolden.me.uk/python/wmi.html
TJG
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fred.dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:) unit test is something on my to-learn list. seems involved and i
haven't seen any straight forward tutorials yet. as yet i still
consider myself a hobbyist at best.
I would recommend Test Driven Development by Kent Beck
(Addison-Wesley).
Thomas
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Hi Dennis,
Dennis Benzinger wrote:
Maurice LING schrieb:
Hi,
I have the following codes:
from __future__ import nested_scopes
[...]
Are you still using Python 2.1?
In every later version you don't need the
from __future__ import nested_scopes line.
So, if you are using Python 2.1 I strongly
On 4/15/05, Michael Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
class SillyDecimal(object):
A silly class to represent an integer from 0 - 99.
def __init__(self, arg=17):
if isinstance(arg, tuple):
self.tens = arg[0]
self.ones = arg[1]
It is conventional to
The main thing I would like is to be able to use tkinter with python on
my mac. will the command-line-style source allow this? Does it come
with IDLE? How is the fink version different from the source i can
download at python.org? Here's the result of the requested commands on
my Terminal.
Hi,
I am currenly a second year university student and was wondering if you
could help me ut. As part of a project i have decided to write about python,
i am not having very much luck with regards to finding infrmation on pythons
use in Rapid Application Development, and was wondering of you
I read that IE had the capability to embedd Python scripts, but what
about the others ?
While Python can be set up as a scripting language for IE, this is
normally disabled as it could be a security hole. The open call is
available from Python scripts so a web site could read or destroy
On 4/14/05, mark hellewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/14/05, Steven Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For what it's worth I filed a gmail issue over it a few days after I noticed
it. I guess more of you could do so indicating the severity of the issue to
the gmail developers. And I
fred.dixon wrote:
:) unit test is something on my to-learn list. seems involved and i
haven't seen any straight forward tutorials yet. as yet i still
consider myself a hobbyist at best.
Hmm, I believe you are right. I can't see any straight-forward tutorials
which use Python. I found a
robcarlton wrote:
I've written this function to make a list of all of an objects
attributes and methods (not for any reason, I'm just learning)
def list_members(obj)
l = dir(obj)
return map(lambda x : eval('obj.'+x), l)
That works fine for me with Python 2.4.
This is the best way to do it:
I have an application that I am trying to add mySQL to. I can connect
to the server with no problems and get a couple values from a table the
first time the page loads, ( a wxPython GUI app ), after changing the
table values from a mySQL shell I refresh the page and the values don't
update unless
How about using the vars builtin?
Michael Hoffman schrieb:
robcarlton wrote:
I've written this function to make a list of all of an objects
attributes and methods (not for any reason, I'm just learning)
def list_members(obj)
l = dir(obj)
return map(lambda x : eval('obj.'+x), l)
That works
codecraig wrote:
How can I get the OS Name, such as Windows XP Pro
i guess i wanted the result in a nice string like Windows XP instead of
5.1
i guess i'll have to convert it myself, thanks
your requirements keep changing. to get the OS name in a platform-
independent way, use the platform
Hi,
Is there a way to create one .exe using py2exe (or some other
extension/utility that can do it)?
Basically i want to generate one .exe that contains everything my
python app needs to run instead of having a .exe, some .zips, etc.
thanks
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robcarlton wrote:
hi everybody
I've written this function to make a list of all of an objects
attributes and methods (not for any reason, I'm just learning)
def list_members(obj)
l = dir(obj)
return map(lambda x : eval('obj.'+x), l)
but I get an error saying that obj isn't
codecraig wrote:
hi,
how can i use python to figure the ip address of the machine which
the python script is running on? I dont mean like 127.0.0.1but i
want the external IP address (such as ipconfig on windows displays).
I use the following (all on one line):
external_ip =
Michael Hoffman wrote:
def list_members(obj)
l = dir(obj)
return map(lambda x : eval('obj.'+x), l)
That works fine for me with Python 2.4.
Python 2.4 (#6, Jan 30 2005, 11:14:08)
[GCC 3.3.3 (SuSE Linux)] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
def lm(obj):
my requirements for getting the OS info havent changed. My first
message says How can I get the OS Name, such as Windows XP Pro.
that's what I wanted all along.
thanks for the information anyway, i believe platform is better than my
previous approach.
thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Path:
must have missed it on py2exe front pageand for google i didnt try
that search exactly. Thanks though. I was trying like one executable
py2exe, etc.
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Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[David Fraser]
Others may find this helpful ; it's a pure Python wrapper for cStringIO
that makes it behave like StringIO in not having initialized objects
readonly. Would it be an idea to extend cStringIO like this in the
standard library? It shouldn't lose performance if
Thomas Nelson wrote:
The main thing I would like is to be able to use tkinter with python on
my mac. will the command-line-style source allow this? Does it come
with IDLE?
No. You need a framework version, which can be built from source, but
it's best to leave that to people who know what
Ross Cowie wrote:
Hi,
I am currenly a second year university student and was wondering if you
could help me ut. As part of a project i have decided to write about
python, i am not having very much luck with regards to finding
infrmation on pythons use in Rapid Application Development, and was
The first one was a typo in the name of a variable ($actegories instead
of $categories). Instead of raising an exception, this b**d programming
language (err...) just created a new variable with a NULL value. Doh :-(
Set error reporting to all.
Marvel at how it reports this simple typo in a
yeah, the question does come up once a month at least, but you could
try mcmillan installer with it's --onefile option.
i have mirrors at http://www.the-jedi.co.uk/downloads/installer
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How about the speed of execution?
There is no simple answer. Both languages use C functions which are
executed at CPU speed. But with interpreted code Python seems to be
approximately 3-4 times faster than PHP
(http://dada.perl.it/shootout/).
The Win32 Computer Language Shootout hasn't
the following code is from the Python 2.3.5 docs (
http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/lib/os-file-dir.html )
import os
from os.path import join, getsize
for root, dirs, files in os.walk('python/Lib/email'):
print root, consumes,
print sum([getsize(join(root, name)) for name in files]),
I tried the installer v6...and i generated a spec, and i built the
exe...when i run the exe i get a error popup window from Windows asking
me to send an Error report.
The warnings that were generated during the build all appear to be
ignorable as the documentation mentions.
any ideas?
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oh and Fredrik, i tried the SingleInstaller linkwhich points to a
script using NSIS. I followed those instructions which generated an
.exe. HOwever, when i run the .exe nothing happens (meaning no
process starts, no output, no errors, nothing).
any ideas on that? have ever used it?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the following code is from the Python 2.3.5 docs (
http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.5/lib/os-file-dir.html )
import os
from os.path import join, getsize
for root, dirs, files in os.walk('python/Lib/email'):
print root, consumes,
print sum([getsize(join(root,
Active State's Komodo IDE is very nice for python development. It
includes integration with pdb (python's debugger). The pro edition
also has a GUI designer, however I've never used it. The personal
version for non commercial use can be had for $30 (and there's also a
30 day trial). They have
M.E.Farmer wrote at 23:18 4/14/2005:
Nice collection of unix tools, Cygwin not needed.
http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
Thank you!
But a question. I've download both UnxUtils.zip and UnxUpdates.zip. I'm
planning to put the contents of UnxUtils.zip in a directory and then move
the contents of
I like that you can automatically invoke NSIS and create an installer,
but I thought the question was how can all of the libraries be in a
single runnable program executable (not a program that installs, but
the program that you wrote.)
I don't think you can do this, because (unless you have your
fuzzylollipop wrote:
print sum([getsize(join(root, name)) for name in files]),
print sum([getsize(join(root,name)) from name in files]),
Do you see the difference? ... for ... is the correct syntax, ... from ...
is what Python seems to complain about.
Peter
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Hope that's help.
Pujo
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To avoid namespace confliction with other Python packages, I want all
my projects to be put into a specific namespace, e.g. 'hongqn' package,
so that I can use from hongqn.proj1 import module1, from
hongqn.proj2.subpack1 import module2, etc.
These projects are developed and maintained and
Peter Otten wrote:
Michael Hoffman wrote:
def list_members(obj)
l = dir(obj)
return map(lambda x : eval('obj.'+x), l)
That works fine for me with Python 2.4.
x.question = Are you sure?
I should clarify. It works fine for me when I've already globally
assigned obj to something else. D'oh!
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Duncan Booth wrote:
fred.dixon wrote:
:) unit test is something on my to-learn list. seems involved and i
haven't seen any straight forward tutorials yet. as yet i still
consider myself a hobbyist at best.
Hmm, I believe you are right. I can't see any straight-forward tutorials
which use Python.
Once again I'm working on code that has several 'providers' of
different features, and I thought I'd ask the list what better
solutions it has to this other than what I've come up with.
Currently, the cleanest way I can find is to say
import foo
foo.config(bar='baz')
# from this point on,
Mahesh wrote:
I needed to get to the POST body and while I was trying out various
regular expressions, one of them caused Python to hang. The Python
process was taking up 100% of the CPU. I couldn't even see the Max
recursion depth exceeded message. Is this a bug?
no, it's just a very stupid way
I just discovered that a few minutes ago, thanks.
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I am running 2.3.5
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can't see the forest for the trees, that seems to be the problem,
thanks for pointing out the obvious ( that I couldn't see ) :-(
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The third alpha release of version 2 of the Python Computer Graphics
Kit is available at http://cgkit.sourceforge.net
What is it?
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C++ and Python that can be used for a variety of domains such as
scientific
Simon Brunning wrote:
On 4/14/05, Peter Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Ewing wrote:
(Darn. I finally say something that gets into Quote of the
Week, and it's attributed to someone else! :-) :-) :-)
+1 on this for meta-QOTW, solving both problems...
Yeah, but to whom do I attribute it?
;-)
On 2005-04-15, codecraig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
how can i use python to figure the ip address of the machine which
the python script is running on? I dont mean like 127.0.0.1but i
want the external IP address (such as ipconfig on windows displays).
any ideas??
I use this:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:52:41 -0400, James Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think Jython will help much here... you would have to embed
jython in your applet which makes it big, which makes it take longer
to download... (or you could install it ahead of time on each client.)
I asked my
Yes, it is stupid but I am debugging some poorly written C++ code so I
cannot change it. It was easier for me to use python to try various
combinations (since the C++ code uses a non-standard re engine). I just
chanced upon the problem and was curious as to what Python was up to.
Thanks for
if you are talking about writing text console program only , for
Windows, then just use the color command- but you will need a handle to
that console window-
C:\help color
Sets the default console foreground and background colors.
COLOR [attr]
attrSpecifies color attribute of console
Peter Herndon wrote:
Another option is adodbapi, which in my experience is much faster than
mx.ODBC.
Much faster ?
See
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/iis/reskit/iischp7.mspx
and scroll down to Table 7.1:
Table 7.1 TPS (transactions per
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do have a standard install of Python as well as Plone. Can you have two?
I have run the mxInstaller for both instances however, whether I run
the ide from my standard install or my plone install the pythonpath is the
same (ie c:\...\plone 2\python). My machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the meantime you should take a look a cURL and pycurl, which do
support
all kind of more extreme HTTP (FTP, etc.) handling, like using https
over
an proxy.
Well, I got a pycurl solution working very nicely in twenty minutes,
including the time it took to read the
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