Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 16/07/18 20:40, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Terry Reedy: On 7/15/2018 5:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, Since 3.3, Python's strings are not (always) UFT-32 strings. You are right. Python's strings are a superset of UTF-32. More

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 16 July 2018 14:01:54 Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:24 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: >> > On Monday 16 July 2018 11:57:25 Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Gene Heskett >> >> >> > >> >

Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

Steven D'Aprano : > Under that standard definition, UTF-8 and UTF-16 are variable-width, > and UTF-32 is fixed-width. > > But I'll accept that UTF-32 is variable-width if Marko accepts that > ASCII is too. If that makes you happy, fine. The point is, UTF-32 has no advantages over UTF-8. And I'm

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 7/16/2018 1:13 PM, Jim Lee wrote: I just think that a language should allow one to bypass Unicode handling easily *when it's not needed*. Both for patching IDLE and for my currently private work, I usually only use Ascii, and no unicode escapes. When I do, it does not matter whether

[issue32814] smtplib.send_message mishandles 8BITMIME RFC 6152

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[issue34129] CGITB does not mangle variables names

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Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 18:38, Rhodri James wrote: Actually having an option of turning off Unicode *does* make it harder to use, because you end up coming across programs that have Unicode and surprise you when they misbehave.  And yes I saw that 90% of your programs aren't intended to get out into the

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 07/16/18 11:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:27:18 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: Had you actually read my words with *intent* rather than *reaction*, you would notice that I suggested the *option* of turning off Unicode. Yes, I know what you wrote, and I read it with intent.

[issue34129] CGITB does not mangle variables names

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Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

Terry Reedy : > On 7/15/2018 5:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, > > Since 3.3, Python's strings are not (always) UFT-32 strings. You are right. Python's strings are a superset of UTF-32. More accurately, Python's strings are UTF-32

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 07/16/18 10:40, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 16/07/18 18:27, Jim Lee wrote: Obviously, the most vocal representatives of the Python community are too sensitive about their language to enable rational discussion. Please moderators ban this person as he's going down the same line as bartc and

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 19:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I'm simply not seeing the advantage of: from __future__ import no_unicode print("Hello World!") # stand in for any string handling on ASCII Sure this should be "from __past__ import no_unicode"? gd -- Rhodri James *-* Kynesim Ltd --

[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

Berker Peksag added the comment: Thanks for the report and for the patch, Jon. -- resolution: -> fixed stage: patch review -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker

[issue31342] test.bisect module causes tests to fail

Neil Schemenauer added the comment: This is still broken, IMHO. Either we should rename test.bisect or we should remove all of the 'if __name__ == "__main__"' part of the test scripts. You can't run the tests reliably as scripts anymore. Doing so puts Lib/test into sys.path. Then,

[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

Berker Peksag added the comment: New changeset f1ab9cac909449ad85595245fa49b8660214cd0e by Berker Peksag (Miss Islington (bot)) in branch '3.6': bpo-34124: Fix markup of message_from_binary_file() signature (GH-8297)

Re: Users banned

On 2018-07-16, Steve Simmons wrote: > +1  Seems to me Bart is being banned for "being a dick" and "talking > rubbish" (my words/interpretation) with irritating persistence. Wonder > how many of the non-banned members have been guilty of the same thing in > one way or another. I'm sure many

Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 7/16/2018 1:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote: Many consider that UTF-32 is a variable-width encoding because of the combining characters. It can take multiple ‘codepoints’ to define what should be a single ‘character’ for display. I hope you realize that this is not the standard meaning of

[issue32554] random.seed(tuple) uses the randomized hash function and so is not reproductible

Lee Griffiths added the comment: a) This below issue added doc to py2.7 that calls out PYTHONHASHSEED, but py doesn't currently contain those words https://bugs.python.org/issue27706 It'd be useful to have the something whether the "behaviour" is fixed or not, as providing other objects

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Monday 16 July 2018 15:04:53 Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/16/2018 10:54 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 16 July 2018 10:24:28 Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> Plus the bytes syntax is really ugly. I wish Python3 had reserved > >> '...' for byte strings and "..." for UTF-32 strings. > > Aside from

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Monday 16 July 2018 14:01:54 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 16 July 2018 11:57:25 Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Gene Heskett > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > On Sunday 15 July 2018 16:09:21 Chris Angelico

[issue34129] CGITB does not mangle variables names

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Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 7/16/2018 11:50 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: For Python 4000 maybe Please don't give people the idea that there is any current intention to have a 'Python 4000' similar to 'Python 3000'. Call it 'a mythical Python 4000', if you must use such a term. -- Terry Jan Reedy --

[issue34129] CGITB does not mangle variables names

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Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 7/16/2018 10:54 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 16 July 2018 10:24:28 Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Plus the bytes syntax is really ugly. I wish Python3 had reserved '...' for byte strings and "..." for UTF-32 strings. Aside from the fact that Python3 strings are not UTF-32 strings, this would

[issue34129] CGITB does not mangle variables names

New submission from Pavel Jurkas : CGITB does not mangle private variables names. So they are displayed as undefined even though they are defined. Example: self.__core undefined -- messages: 321757 nosy: pjurkas priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: CGITB does not

Re: Users banned

On 16/07/2018 03:13, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 5:09 PM Jim Lee wrote: That is, of course, the decision of the moderators - but I happen to agree with both Christian and Ethan. Banning for the simple reason of a dissenting opinion is censorship, pure and simple. While

[issue29710] Incorrect representation caveat on bitwise operation docs

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[issue34126] Profiling certain invalid calls crash Python

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Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:22:27 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: [...] > But I am not talking about those sort of characters or ligatures, So what? I am. You don't get to say "only non-standard definitions I approve of count". There is the industry standard definition of what it means to be a fixed-

[issue34128] Do not block threads when pickle/unpickle

New submission from Martin Bammer : Hi, the old and slow python implementation of pickle didn't block background thread. But the newer C-implementation blocks other threads while dump/load is running. Wouldn't it be possible to allow other threads during this time? Especially could load/loads

Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > > But I am not talking about those sort of characters or ligatures, but > ‘characters’ that are built up of a combining diacritical marks (like > accents) and a base character. Unicode define many code points for the more > common of

[issue34126] Profiling certain invalid calls crash Python

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Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 7/15/2018 4:09 PM, Jim Lee wrote: On 07/15/18 12:37, MRAB wrote: To me, Unicode and UTF-8 aren't things to be reserved for I18N. I use them as a matter of course because I find it a lot easier to stick with just one encoding, one that will work with _any_ text I have. Which is exactly

[issue29710] Incorrect representation caveat on bitwise operation docs

Mark Dickinson added the comment: The wording for change 1 looks fine to me. For change 2, the mention of the internal representation is misleading, since the internal representation of (long) integers in current CPython is effectively sign-magnitude, and so there are some shenanigans to

[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

Berker Peksag added the comment: New changeset 43c2fabb2fe7760be462e008b39169cf16c28b4c by Berker Peksag (Miss Islington (bot)) in branch '3.7': bpo-34124: Fix markup of message_from_binary_file() signature (GH-8297)

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:15 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM Terry Reedy wrote: >> >> On 7/15/2018 5:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> >> > if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, >> >> Since 3.3, Python's strings are not (always) UFT-32 strings.

[issue34127] Gramatically incorrect error message for some descriptor calls with wrong number of arguments

New submission from ppperry : `{}.get()` Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError: get expected at least 1 arguments, got 0 Shouldn't that be "TypeError: get expected at least 1 argument, got 0" instead? -- components: Interpreter Core messages: 321752 nosy:

Re: doubling the number of tests, but not taking twice as long

Op 2018-07-16, Larry Martell schreef : > I had some code that did this: > > meas_regex = '_M\d+_' > meas_re = re.compile(meas_regex) > > if meas_re.search(filename): > stuff1() > else: > stuff2() > > I then had to change it to this: > > if meas_re.search(filename): > if 'MeasDisplay'

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:27:18 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: > Had you actually read my words with *intent* rather than *reaction*, you > would notice that I suggested the *option* of turning off Unicode. Yes, I know what you wrote, and I read it with intent. Jim, you seem to be labouring under the

[issue34126] Profiling certain invalid calls crash Python

Jeroen Demeyer added the comment: Also: >>> import sys; sys.setprofile(lambda *args: None) >>> dict.get([], "foo") Segmentation fault -- title: Profiling dict.get() crashes Python -> Profiling certain invalid calls crash Python ___

Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

> On Jul 16, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:11:23 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: > >>> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano >>> wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 00:28:39 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: if your new system used Python3's

doubling the number of tests, but not taking twice as long

I had some code that did this: meas_regex = '_M\d+_' meas_re = re.compile(meas_regex) if meas_re.search(filename): stuff1() else: stuff2() I then had to change it to this: if meas_re.search(filename): if 'MeasDisplay' in filename: stuff1a() else: stuff1() else:

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 7/15/2018 5:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > > > if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, > > Since 3.3, Python's strings are not (always) UFT-32 strings. Nor are > they always UCS-2 (or partly UTF-16) strings.

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 18:27, Jim Lee wrote: 90% of the world *is* "beneath my notice" when it comes to programming for myself.   I really don't care if that's not PC enough for you. Had you actually read my words with *intent* rather than *reaction*, you would notice that I suggested the *option* of

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 16 July 2018 11:57:25 Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: >> > On Sunday 15 July 2018 16:09:21 Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, James Lee wrote: >> >> > On

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 7/15/2018 5:28 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, Since 3.3, Python's strings are not (always) UFT-32 strings. Nor are they always UCS-2 (or partly UTF-16) strings. Nor are the always Latin-1 or Ascii strings. Python's Flexible

[issue28643] Broken makefile depends for profile-opt target

Neil Schemenauer added the comment: Closing this as the current makefile works much better in this regard, at least based on my experience. -- resolution: -> fixed stage: patch review -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 18:13, Jim Lee wrote: I just think that a language should allow one to bypass Unicode handling easily *when it's not needed*. I have no idea what this is meant to mean. I've written loads of code for my own purposes and I've never had to think about Unicode, so why should

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 18:27, Jim Lee wrote: Obviously, the most vocal representatives of the Python community are too sensitive about their language to enable rational discussion. Please moderators ban this person as he's going down the same line as bartc and similar, it is completely unacceptable,

Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:11:23 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 00:28:39 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> >>> if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, that >>> would be an equally naïve

Re: IDLE Python won't run or open, neither will it state the error for behaving this way

On 7/16/2018 5:22 AM, Clarence Chanda wrote: HI, I downloaded python 3.7.0 from your python website Which installer for what OS? and it was installed successfully and I was able to run/open python How did you run it? but when I try to run/open IDLE python, How? it just wont open or

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 2018-07-16 17:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:38:41 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: As I said, there are programming situations where the programmer only needs to deal with a single language - his own. This might come as a shock to you, but just because Python's native string type

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 07/16/18 03:39, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Good for you. But Python is not a programming language written to satisfy the needs of people like you, and ONLY people like you. It is a language written to satisfy the needs of people from Uzbekistan, and China, and Japan, and India, and Brazil,

[issue34126] Profiling dict.get() crashes Python

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[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

Berker Peksag added the comment: New changeset c9265c1534b7e62bb9b15460d0420c0c3bb57ff9 by Berker Peksag (Jon Ribbens) in branch 'master': bpo-34124: Fix markup of message_from_binary_file() signature (GH-8297) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/c9265c1534b7e62bb9b15460d0420c0c3bb57ff9

[issue34126] Profiling dict.get() crashes Python

New submission from Jeroen Demeyer : >>> import sys; sys.setprofile(lambda *args:None) >>> dict.get() Segmentation fault -- components: Interpreter Core messages: 321747 nosy: jdemeyer priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Profiling dict.get() crashes Python versions:

[issue34125] Profiling depends on whether **kwargs is given

New submission from Jeroen Demeyer : Enable profiling for C functions: >>> def prof(frame, typ, arg): ... if typ.startswith("c_"): ... print(arg, typ) >>> import sys; sys.setprofile(prof) and notice how profiling depends on **kwargs: >>> list.append([], None)

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 07/16/18 03:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote: But the thing is, that complexity is *inherent in the domain*. You can try to deal with it without Unicode, and as soon as you have users expecting to use more than one code page, you're doomed. No, I'm not doomed, because there *are* no other

[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

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[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

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Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 02:22:59 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: >> Out of curiosity where does my mum's Welsh come into the equation as I >> believe that it is not recognised by the EU as a language? >> >> > What characters does it use? Mostly

Re: Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 00:28:39 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> >> if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, that >> would be an equally naïve misstep. You'd need to reach a notch higher >> and use glyphs or

[issue32430] Simplify Modules/Setup{,.dist,.local}

Antoine Pitrou added the comment: With PR #8229 pushed the distinction between Setup.dist and Setup has disappeared: you have a Modules/Setup file in the source tree and that's where you do any changes, which you are responsible to track yourself (e.g. using a patch file or a git fork).

[issue32430] Simplify Modules/Setup{,.dist,.local}

Antoine Pitrou added the comment: New changeset 961d54c5c1916c09883ebcf7191babc969e5a5cf by Antoine Pitrou in branch 'master': bpo-32430: Rename Modules/Setup.dist to Modules/Setup (GH-8229) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/961d54c5c1916c09883ebcf7191babc969e5a5cf --

[issue33967] functools.singledispatch: Misleading exception when calling without arguments

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: The purpose of using assertRaisesRegexp() was testing the error message. assertRaises() doesn't do this. Needed to restore the appropriate assertion method, but using a non-deprecated alias: assertRaisesRegex(). -- nosy: +serhiy.storchaka

Glyphs and graphemes [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 00:28:39 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > if your new system used Python3's UTF-32 strings as a foundation, that > would be an equally naïve misstep. You'd need to reach a notch higher > and use glyphs or other "semiotic atoms" as building blocks. UTF-32, > after all, is a

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 17:22, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 16/07/18 15:17, Dan Sommers wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... It may have been good

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 17:26, Larry Martell wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 16/07/18 15:17, Dan Sommers wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... It may have been good

I18N and Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 17:28:15 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: > Unicode is an attempt to solve at least one I18N issue If you're going to insist on digging your heels in and using definitions which nobody else does, this discussion is going to go nowhere fast. Unicode is (ideally) a universal character

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 17:05, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 16/07/18 15:17, Dan Sommers wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... It may have been good enough for his disciples, but Jesus spoke Aramaic. Also,

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 17:22, Chris Angelico wrote: What characters does it use? Mostly Latin letters? Basic Latin plus U+0174 (LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH CIRCUMFLEX) through to U+0177 (LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH CIRCUMFLEX) I think. -- Rhodri James *-* Kynesim Ltd --

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:38:41 -0700, Jim Lee wrote: > As I said, there are programming situations where the programmer only > needs to deal with a single language - his own. This might come as a shock to you, but just because Python's native string type supports (for example) the Devanagari

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 16/07/18 15:17, Dan Sommers wrote: >> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >>> ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... >> >> >> It may have been good enough for his disciples, but

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Monday 16 July 2018 11:57:25 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 15 July 2018 16:09:21 Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, James Lee wrote: > >> > On 7/15/2018 3:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> >> No. The real

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:05 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 16/07/18 15:17, Dan Sommers wrote: >> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >>> ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... >> >> >> It may have been good enough for his disciples, but

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On 16/07/18 15:17, Dan Sommers wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... It may have been good enough for his disciples, but Jesus spoke Aramaic. Also, ISO-8859-7 doesn't cover ancient polytonic

[issue32545] Unable to install Python 3.7.0a4 on Windows 10 - Error 0x80070643: Failed to install MSI package.

Steve Dower added the comment: Amin, it looks like you are trying to upgrade an all-users install of an earlier version of Python 3.7 (one of the betas?) to a just-for-me install. If you know which older version you have installed, or you can find it in Programs and Features, I'd suggest

Re: Python 2.7 can find cairo libs but not Python 3.6

I just realized that my subject was backwards. It's 2.7 that can find the libs and 3.6 than cannot. Just in case that makes a difference. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP: sip:da...@vybenetworks.com --

[issue34123] ambiguous documentation for dict.popitem

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Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 15 July 2018 16:09:21 Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, James Lee wrote: >> > On 7/15/2018 3:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> No. The real ten billion dollar question is how people in 2018 can >> >>

Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Sunday 15 July 2018 16:09:21 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, James Lee wrote: > > On 7/15/2018 3:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> No. The real ten billion dollar question is how people in 2018 can > >> stick their head in the sand and take seriously the position

[issue31652] make install fails: no module _ctypes

Bryan added the comment: Similar error on CentOS 7 ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_ctypes' Install -- yum install libffi-devel Repeat: ./configure --enable-optimizations make altinstall Results: Collecting setuptools Collecting pip Installing collected packages: setuptools, pip

send PIL.Image to django server side and get it back

I also posted the question here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51355926/send-pil-image-to-django-server-side-and-get-it-back I don't know what's under the hood of sending an image from client side to server side, so stuck by the following scenario. I want to send a PIL.Image object to

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

> The buzzing noise you just heard was the joke whizzing past your head > *wink* I have twins aged four. They also like to yell "I cheated!", whenever they are called out. In general, you need to get rid of tat teenage brat persona you practice. The "ranting rick" charade was especially

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 12:54 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 16 July 2018 10:24:28 Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> Antoon Pardon : >> > I really don't understand why the author of that article didn't just >> > copy his python2 program but used sys.stdin.buffer and >> > sys.sydout.buffer instead

[issue33073] Add as_integer_ratio() to int() objects

Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Nofar, do you want to continue to work on this or should I reassign? -- ___ Python tracker ___

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On Monday 16 July 2018 10:24:28 Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Antoon Pardon : > > I really don't understand why the author of that article didn't just > > copy his python2 program but used sys.stdin.buffer and > > sys.sydout.buffer instead of plain sys.stdin and stdout. > > Yes, it would be nice if you

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

On 16-07-18 16:24, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Antoon Pardon : > >> I really don't understand why the author of that article didn't just >> copy his python2 program but used sys.stdin.buffer and >> sys.sydout.buffer instead of plain sys.stdin and stdout. > Yes, it would be nice if you could simply

[issue34124] email.message_from_binary_file documentation is broken

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[issue33073] Add as_integer_ratio() to int() objects

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Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:17:35 +, Dan Sommers wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... > > It may have been good enough for his disciples, but Jesus spoke Aramaic. The buzzing noise you just

Re: Kindness

On 16/07/18 15:20, Ethan Furman wrote: On 07/16/2018 06:22 AM, Rhodri James wrote: On 13/07/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote: On 07/13/2018 11:52 AM, Rhodri James wrote: I should point out that the number of people I have killfiled in all my  > Internet dealings can be counted on the fingers

Re: Getting process details on an operating system process/question answer by vouce

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 06:47:53 -0600, John T. Haggerty wrote: > So, it's early for me---and I'm not sure if these things can be done but > I'd like to know the following: > > 1. How can Python connect to a running operating system process on a > host operating system to see what part of the

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Cult-like behaviour [was Re: Kindness]

Antoon Pardon : > I really don't understand why the author of that article didn't just > copy his python2 program but used sys.stdin.buffer and > sys.sydout.buffer instead of plain sys.stdin and stdout. Yes, it would be nice if you could simply restrict yourself to bytes everywhere when your

Re: Kindness

On 07/16/2018 06:22 AM, Rhodri James wrote: On 13/07/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote: On 07/13/2018 11:52 AM, Rhodri James wrote: I should point out that the number of people I have killfiled in all my > Internet dealings can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Your left one? * * Bonus

Re: Unicode [was Re: Cult-like behaviour]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:39:49 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > ... people who think that if ISO-8859-7 was good enough for Jesus ... It may have been good enough for his disciples, but Jesus spoke Aramaic. Also, ISO-8859-7 doesn't cover ancient polytonic Greek; it only covers modern monotonic

Re: send PIL.Image to django server side and get it back

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 3:52:09 PM UTC+3, iMath wrote: > I also posted the question here > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51355926/send-pil-image-to-django-server-side-and-get-it-back > > I don't know what's under the hood of sending an image from client side to > server side, so stuck

Re: Kindness

On 13/07/18 20:46, Ethan Furman wrote: On 07/13/2018 11:52 AM, Rhodri James wrote: I should point out that the number of people I have killfiled in all my > Internet dealings can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Your left one? * -- ~Ethan~ * Bonus points for getting the reference. 

[issue34088] [EASY] sndhdr.what() throws exceptions on unknown files

Ammar Askar added the comment: Hey Lysandros. Take a look at https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/master/Lib/wave.py#L126-L139 Notice how there's a Chunk made from the `file` argument but then another Chunk created using the previous chunk as a file. While it might seem like

[issue34095] [2.7] test_idle fails with: /usr/bin/xvfb-run: line 181: 3617 Segmentation fault

Erich Eckner added the comment: ok, some update: 1st: running the complete test suite with xvfb fails (as already reported): > LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${srcdir}/Python-${pkgver}":${LD_LIBRARY_PATH} \ xvfb-run "${srcdir}/Python-${pkgver}/python" -m test.regrtest -v -uall ... 0:02:14 load avg:

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