Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:53 AM Bill Deegan wrote: > I’m not looking through all the packages you have installed > > (Ctrl-F is your friend - - - ) > What version of python is installed on your system? > > There are actually 3 versions installed - - - which is why the whole list was posted. You

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
I’m not looking through all the packages you have installed What version of python is installed on your system? On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 5:24 AM o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:36 PM Bill Deegan > wrote: > >> why reply to me instead of to the list? >> It's generally considered

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:36 PM Bill Deegan wrote: > why reply to me instead of to the list? > It's generally considered bad form to do so. > Got it - - - except this list wants only reply all the next one wants only reply and keeping straight which is which isn't always happening. I did apologi

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
why reply to me instead of to the list? It's generally considered bad form to do so. Do you have any python 3 installed on your system? Or python 2.7? If not, can you install such via system package? -Bill On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 6:06 PM o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 5:28 PM

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
Did Mats suggestion of: python3.13 -m venv new_venv $ new_venv/bin/python --version Python 3.13.0b4 $ source new_venv/bin/activate Not work? That should work on any system, with any system installl python. It's not trying to modify the system installed python in anyway... If not, please paste the

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/5/24 15:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: That's something like pyenv install 3.12.4 $ pyenv install 3.12.4 bash: pyenv: command not found pyenv is not a 'global' package there is a mountain of /root/.pyenv files though there is also quite a number of /root/.pyenv/plugins/pyen

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:56 PM Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann > > wrote: > > > > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < > > > python-li

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:55 PM Bill Deegan wrote: > Your approach is wrong. > You don't build python from source using pip. > > You don't install new versions of python into a venv either. > > Have you read the following? > https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/esp8266/tutorial/intro.html > > Th

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/5/24 14:39, o1bigtenor wrote: Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list - - please advise. On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann > wrote: On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Bill Deegan via Python-list
Your approach is wrong. You don't build python from source using pip. You don't install new versions of python into a venv either. Have you read the following? https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/esp8266/tutorial/intro.html That seems to have instructions for what you want to do.. -Bill O

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list - - please advise. On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < > > python-list@python.org> wro

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) how do I install a diff

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > > My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) > > how do I install a different version in the venv so that python 3.1

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:24 AM Peter J. Holzer via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the > > devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-04 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) how do I install a different version in the venv so that python 3.11.x on the system is not discombobulated by the python 3.12.x in the venv. That python 3.12 would let me

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-04 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the > devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5 - - - its just > not available on devuan 4. Couldn't you just upgrade to Devuan 5, then? > Tried in

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 7:11 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> > > wrote: > > > >> On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > >>> Greetings > >>> > >>> Look

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Cameron Simpson via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On 03Aug2024 16:34, o1bigtenor wrote: > >So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run > >python > >3.12 > >(and other needed programs related to 3.12) inside? > > Maybe this g

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list wrote: On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 03Aug2024 16:34, o1bigtenor wrote: So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run python 3.12 (and other needed programs related to 3.12) inside? Maybe this github comment will help with this: https://github.com/orgs/micropython/discussions/10255#discussioncomment-444

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really > > don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it > is!!)). > > > > One

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it is!!)). One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the devuan world you

Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it is!!)). One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5 - - - its ju