r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you missed my point Steven, I was in no way proud of the fact
of my 9th place rating. It just proves my point to the small following
of this group. And frankly makes me feel bad.
This spurt of high frequency posts is something that seems to happen
to most
On Dec 24, 1:19 am, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-
cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:06:35 -0800, the anonymous troll known only as r
replied to Thorsten Kampe and said:
Thats Thurstan, thank you very much! :)
I think Thorsten knows how to spell his own name.
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On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:38 AM, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
School time son,
This forum is much more than a question answer session, son. Sure
people are welcome to ask a Python related question. But this forum is
really the main highway of Python development and future. If your a
n00b go
s...@pobox.com writes:
If you look back at the Tour de France results from the 80's I
believe Greg Lemond won it one year without ever winning a stage.
Well I think it was actually in 1990, his last win sadly.
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Steve Holden a écrit :
walterbyrd wrote:
[...] Fooled by version numbers ?
No, but I am giving django the benefit of the doubt. The django
project told people all along that django was not to be considered
production ready before 1.0. I will accept that some people decided to
wait until 1.0
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Now thats the kind of friendly banter this group could use. Instead of
people acting as if their bowel-movements smell like bakery fresh
cinnamon rolls!
What an amazing thing to say!
Doesn't yours?
- Hendrik
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r rt8...@gmail.com wrote::
The writing is on the Wall!
Yes it is, and as always, it says :
Mene, mene, tekel epharsim.
If my protestant upbringing hasn't failed me,
it means:
Weighed, and found wanting.
- Hendrik
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On Dec 23, 2:33 am, Hendrik van Rooyen m...@microcorp.co.za wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Now thats the kind of friendly banter this group could use. Instead of
people acting as if their bowel-movements smell like bakery fresh
cinnamon rolls!
What an amazing thing to say!
Doesn't yours?
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:05:22 -0800, r wrote:
On Dec 22, 10:09 pm, Ben Kaplan bs...@case.edu wrote:
That's just because most of us don't say anything unless we have
something useful to say. We prefer to let the experts answer the
questions, but we read the threads so we can benefit from them.
* r (Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:44:32 -0800 (PST))
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came before it. Terms like outright plagiarism don't
encourage rational
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:05 AM, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 22, 10:09 pm, Ben Kaplan bs...@case.edu wrote:
That's just because most of us don't say anything unless we have
something useful to say. We prefer to let the experts answer the
questions, but we read the threads so we can
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote in
news:ae1bb365-7755-4c5f-8166-e704c51a7...@i20g2000prf.googlegro
ups.com:
Oh Steve... Listen, my words are ment as a wake-up-call to
all who still love Python, and i believe you are one of
them. Maybe old age has slowed your hand, that's OK, Us
youngsters will
On Dec 23, 8:21 am, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote:
* r (Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:44:32 -0800 (PST))
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came
On Dec 23, 10:12 am, je.s.t...@hehxduhmp.org wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
You are the epitimy of an internet troll. A troll tries to hide his
identity. Why are you so concerned about your TRUE identity. Are the
I've already stated, and you've already proven, that it's pretty trivial
to
On Dec 23, 8:21 am, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote:
You don't have a single clue about neither Python nor Ruby:
'According to the Ruby FAQ, If you like Perl, you will like Ruby and be
right at home with its syntax. [...] If you like Python, you may or may
not be put off by the
Benjamin Kaplin wrote:
You're the one who keeps bringing up the need to spread python. For
most people, this is a forum to ask questions and have experts respond
to them. Most people who post here aren't looking for your opinion,
they want answers. If you know the answer to a question, answer it.
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
I've already stated, and you've already proven, that it's pretty trivial
to ascertain my true identity, if one actually cares. OTOH, that's
*not* the case with you. Who is hiding now?
I told you, my name is Thurstan Howell III. Do you want to know my
favorite
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:06:35 -0800, the anonymous troll known only as r
replied to Thorsten Kampe and said:
Thats Thurstan, thank you very much! :)
I think Thorsten knows how to spell his own name.
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it, fortran is still the most popular language for
numberical programming.
Of course, these are just observations on my part, nothing scientific
about it. But, I can't help but wonder how python's popularity was
determined. I suspect that a lot of people use python as a secondary
skill. For example, I
/c++, and maybe a
little visual basic.
- as I understand it, fortran is still the most popular language for
numberical programming.
Of course, these are just observations on my part, nothing scientific
about it. But, I can't help but wonder how python's popularity was
determined. I suspect
walterbyrd wrote:
I have read that python is the world's 3rd most popular language, and
that python has surpassed perl in popularity, but I am not seeing it.
In 20 days, you've gone from trying to import a module by using:
load test.py
to questioning the popularity of python.
You have
Walter From what I have seen:
Walter - in unix/linux sysadmin, perl is far more popular than python,
Walter windows sysadmins typically don't use either.
Walter - in web-development, php is far more popular than python - it's not
Walter even close.
Walter - when I did a
I decided to start learning python for 2 reasons:
#A The white-space is wonderful - you can't code unreadable code.
#B I noticed that just about every application I use has extensions
written in python.
Although it isn't as cool as ruby, it certainly has been in widespread
use longer.
I think
Marco Mariani ma...@sferacarta.com writes:
walterbyrd wrote:
I have read that python is the world's 3rd most popular language, and
that python has surpassed perl in popularity, but I am not seeing it.
In 20 days, you've gone from trying to import a module by using:
load test.py
to
by java, c/c++, and maybe a
little visual basic.
- as I understand it, fortran is still the most popular language for
numberical programming.
Of course, these are just observations on my part, nothing scientific
about it. But, I can't help but wonder how python's popularity was
determined. I
walterbyrd wrote:
I have read that python is the world's 3rd most popular language, and
that python has surpassed perl in popularity, but I am not seeing it.
[rest of stuff adequately answered by other posters]
The Python has surpassed Perl myth came from one month's results on
the TIOBE index,
Richard Riley wrote:
One does not have to by a language maestro to try and assess its
popularity. While his numbers or his reading of the numbers might be
open to some questions, to suggest that one needs to be totally familiar
with a language to determine its popularity is, frankly,
I think when Python was first brought to this dark world by a genius
named Guido van Rossum, it had complete dominance in it's niche,
actually Python created a niche where none existed before. Since the
advent of Ruby(Python closet competitor), Python's hold on this niche
is slipping. A lot of
On Dec 22, 10:13 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Since the
advent of Ruby(Python closet competitor), Python's hold on this niche
is slipping.
About the only place I ever hear of ruby being used is web development
with RoR. When it comes to web development, it seems to me that ruby
(because of
r wrote:
I think when Python was first brought to this dark world by a genius
named Guido van Rossum, it had complete dominance in it's niche,
actually Python created a niche where none existed before. Since the
advent of Ruby(Python closet competitor), Python's hold on this niche
is
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:48 PM, walterbyrd wrote:
Now since Python *is not* the only language on it's block, we have to
compete with our main nemesis(Ruby) for survival
I think both python and ruby will survive. I think python is also
competing with perl in the sysadmin space - although I see
Walter,
I just look at the stats for comp.lang.python, and i am 9th place for
most post this month. That makes me completely sad. With just 50 post
so far, i am showing up on the high count. Sad, very sad. Now i have
much reason to believe that only 100 or so people follow this list :(.
Python is
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:01 PM, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Walter,
I just look at the stats for comp.lang.python, and i am 9th place for
most post this month. That makes me completely sad. With just 50 post
so far, i am showing up on the high count. Sad, very sad. Now i have
much reason to
hello hackers.
Python is best at high level calculations and as an indication, Please
note that I am leading a team on developing an accounting software which
will be modular and would suit the economic conditions of developed and
almost developed countries like India.
I find that number crunching
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came before it. Terms like outright plagiarism don't
encourage rational debate, and make you seem like a troll who is more
Marco Mariani ma...@sferacarta.com writes:
Richard Riley wrote:
One does not have to by a language maestro to try and assess its
popularity. While his numbers or his reading of the numbers might be
open to some questions, to suggest that one needs to be totally familiar
with a language to
I just look at the stats for comp.lang.python, and i am 9th place for
most post this month. That makes me completely sad. With just 50 post
so far, i am showing up on the high count. Sad, very sad. Now i have
much reason to believe that only 100 or so people follow this list :(.
Python is
r wrote:
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came before it. Terms like outright plagiarism don't
encourage rational debate, and make you seem like a troll who is
On Dec 22, 11:42 am, Ellinghaus, Lance lance.ellingh...@eds.com
wrote:
Yes, Ruby has taken some of the popularity out of Python, but they are
also hitting different markets.
Do you mean different markets within web development, or do you mean
ruby is used mostly for web-dev, while python is
On Dec 22, 1:10 pm, MRAB goo...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
r wrote:
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came before it. Terms like outright plagiarism don't
walterbyrd a écrit :
On Dec 22, 10:13 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Since the
advent of Ruby(Python closet competitor), Python's hold on this niche
is slipping.
About the only place I ever hear of ruby being used is web development
with RoR. When it comes to web development, it seems to me
On Dec 22, 3:44 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came before it. Terms like outright plagiarism don't
encourage rational
OK je.s.t... whatever,
We see where you stand. And also see that by removing your comments
from the archive in 5 days, how small your acorns really are.
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On Dec 22, 1:50 pm, Luis M. González luis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 22, 3:44 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Steve Holden
What makes you assume this is a zero-sum game, and that Python won't
survive if any other language becomes popular. Every language borrows
from those that came
je.s.t...@hehxduhmp.org wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
We see where you stand. And also see that by removing your comments
from the archive in 5 days, how small your acorns really are.
What is the archive, Google Groups? You do realize that's not the
entirety of Usenet, correct?
It's the
On Dec 22, 3:13 pm, je.s.t...@hehxduhmp.org wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
We see where you stand. And also see that by removing your comments
from the archive in 5 days, how small your acorns really are.
What is the archive, Google Groups? You do realize that's not the
entirety of
On Dec 22, 3:15 pm, je.s.t...@hehxduhmp.org wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
We see where you stand. And also see that by removing your comments
from the archive in 5 days, how small your acorns really are.
Also, it is pretty hard to take such accusations seriously from someone
who
On Dec 22, 4:44 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh Steve... Listen, my words are ment as a wake-up-call to all who
r, can you do me a favor? Go read the archives of this newsgroup for a
month or two, then come back with some perspective. I hope that will
make your posts a little less nonsensical
Alvin ONeal wrote:
Also worthy of mention:
I've seen python pre-installed on consumer HP desktops (I think as
part of a backup/restore script, but I'm not sure)
It's pre-installed on every Mac (both desktop and laptop), too.
Cheers,
- Joe
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On Dec 22, 11:50 am, Bruno Desthuilliers
bdesth.quelquech...@free.quelquepart.fr wrote:
When it comes to web development, it seems to me that ruby
(because of rails) is far more popular
s/popular/hyped/
I'm not so sure. Go to dice.com, enter ruby rails no quotes, search
all words, job
On Dec 22, 4:16 pm, Joe Strout j...@strout.net wrote:
Alvin ONeal wrote:
Also worthy of mention:
I've seen python pre-installed on consumer HP desktops (I think as
part of a backup/restore script, but I'm not sure)
It's pre-installed on every Mac (both desktop and laptop), too.
Cheers,
On Dec 22, 4:14 pm, je.s.t...@hehxduhmp.org wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Would you trust my words more if i used a name like Thurstan Howell
III Come on, don't tell me you are that shallow. To attack my
credibility solely based on my user name is the sport of small minded
people.
[Jeff]
but I raise the bar so that any random joker probably won't bother
(and making the reverse mapping - knowing my real identity and then
looking for recent net activity - is much more difficult to do)
[/Jeff]
You are the epitimy of an internet troll. A troll tries to hide his
identity. Why
On Dec 22, 4:07 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 22, 3:15 pm, je.s.t...@hehxduhmp.org wrote:
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
We see where you stand. And also see that by removing your comments
from the archive in 5 days, how small your acorns really are.
Also, it is pretty hard to take
On Dec 22, 6:18 pm, Aaron Brady castiro...@gmail.com wrote:
Us small-minded people have hopes and dreams just like anybody else,
Thurston.
Now thats the kind of friendly banter this group could use. Instead of
people acting as if their bowel-movements smell like bakery fresh
cinnamon rolls!
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:11:02 -0800, walterbyrd wrote:
I have read that python is the world's 3rd most popular language
Oh, well if it's written down it must be true.
But, I can't help but wonder how python's popularity was determined.
Why don't you ask the people who made the claim
walterbyrd wrote:
[...] Fooled by version numbers ?
No, but I am giving django the benefit of the doubt. The django
project told people all along that django was not to be considered
production ready before 1.0. I will accept that some people decided to
wait until 1.0 came out to do any
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 -0800, r wrote:
Walter,
I just look at the stats for comp.lang.python, and i am 9th place for
most post this month.
And about 9,000th place for useful information.
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r wrote:
[Jeff]
but I raise the bar so that any random joker probably won't bother
(and making the reverse mapping - knowing my real identity and then
looking for recent net activity - is much more difficult to do)
[/Jeff]
You are the epitimy of an internet troll. A troll tries to hide his
Alvin ONeal wrote:
Also worthy of mention:
I've seen python pre-installed on consumer HP desktops (I think as
part of a backup/restore script, but I'm not sure)
It's pre-installed on every Mac (both desktop and laptop), too.
I am using a Vista HP right now that came pre-installed
On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Joe Strout wrote:
Alvin ONeal wrote:
Also worthy of mention:
I've seen python pre-installed on consumer HP desktops (I think as
part of a backup/restore script, but I'm not sure)
It's pre-installed on every Mac (both desktop and laptop), too.
Mac and a lot of
On Dec 22, 7:34 pm, Steven D'Aprano
ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 -0800, r wrote:
Walter,
I just look at the stats for comp.lang.python, and i am 9th place for
most post this month.
And about 9,000th place for useful information.
--
Steven
I
On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:51 PM, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 22, 7:34 pm, Steven D'Aprano
ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:21 -0800, r wrote:
Walter,
I just look at the stats for comp.lang.python, and i am 9th place
for
most post this month.
And
On 2008-12-22, Joe Strout j...@strout.net wrote:
Alvin ONeal wrote:
Also worthy of mention:
I've seen python pre-installed on consumer HP desktops (I think as
part of a backup/restore script, but I'm not sure)
It's pre-installed on every Mac (both desktop and laptop), too.
IIRC, Python
The average user thinks python is only a very large snake!
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On Dec 22, 10:09 pm, Ben Kaplan bs...@case.edu wrote:
That's just because most of us don't say anything unless we have
something useful to say. We prefer to let the experts answer the
questions, but we read the threads so we can benefit from them.
OK Ben, So you are saying
1.) do not
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:35:42 -, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote:
IIRC, Python came pre-installed on my IBM Thinkpad. However,
it wasn't anyplace the average user would stumble across it...
The suggestively named IBMTOOLS directory, I believe :-)
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