Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jul 11, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Robert Anton Patterson wrote: > Hi I'm trying to install MySQLdb-1.2.1 on Mac OS X and would > appreciate > anyone's help on the matter. Ben Gollmer just contributed a universal build of MySQLdb-1.2.1 for Python 2.4, you can download it here: http://pythonmac.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install

2006-07-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jul 12, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Robert Anton Patterson wrote: > Dear Bob: > > Thanks for your help but still have problems. > > I've reinstalled SQL and actually downgraded it to > > Version 4 - sudo python setup.py install > > As this the same version on my server. > > Next I've re-installed the GC

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install

2006-07-11 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jul 11, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Robert Anton Patterson wrote: > Mac OS X - 10.4.6 > > MYSQL version: 5.0.20a-standard + Apache 2 installed through > WebServer X Kit > ( www.rbsoftware.net/?page=wsxk) > > X-Code is upto date - I just re-installed the newest version off > the Apple > Developers sit

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install

2006-07-11 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jul 11, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Robert Anton Patterson wrote: > Hi I'm trying to install MySQLdb-1.2.1 on Mac OS X and would > appreciate > anyone's help on the matter. What version of Mac OS X is this, and how did you install MySQL? Is your Xcode installation up to date? I've never seen linker

[Pythonmac-SIG] Install

2006-07-11 Thread Robert Anton Patterson
Dear Hi I'm trying to install MySQLdb-1.2.1 on Mac OS X and would appreciate anyone's help on the matter. I am able to access MySQL directly through the terminal, PHP, and PHPMyAdmin But when I go to install MYSQL-python via Python setup.py build: I get the following error: [Kolkata:~/deskto

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Trent Mick
[Trent] > > ...the waste libs [are] obviously ancient, unmaintained > > and [don't] provide near the functionality of other facilities [Bob Ippolito wrote] > Well, the WASTE license isn't all that friendly. I'd have thrown it > out for that reason alone. Happy coincidence! :) Trent -- Tren

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Trent Mick wrote: > [Bob Ippolito wrote] >> >> On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >>> On 10-apr-2006, at 23:14, Trent Mick wrote: >>> The old (now deprecated) Mac "Python IDE.app" was never included in ActivePython. >>> >>> Good for you!

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Trent Mick
[Bob Ippolito wrote] > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > >On 10-apr-2006, at 23:14, Trent Mick wrote: > > > >>The old (now deprecated) Mac "Python IDE.app" was never included in > >>ActivePython. > > > >Good for you! I hope we can completely remove it for Python 2.5 (and

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:29 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > On 10-apr-2006, at 23:14, Trent Mick wrote: > >> The old (now deprecated) Mac "Python IDE.app" was never included in >> ActivePython. > > Good for you! I hope we can completely remove it for Python 2.5 > (and my > the universal build also do

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 10-apr-2006, at 23:14, Trent Mick wrote: > [Timothy Reaves wrote] >> Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ >> 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a >> framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/ >> local/bin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Trent Mick
[Timothy Reaves wrote] > Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ > 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a > framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/ > local/bin for the links. As Bob and Ronald mentions the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-10 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Monday, April 10, 2006, at 02:07AM, Timothy Reaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ >2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a >framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-09 Thread Timothy Reaves
On Apr 9, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote: > >> Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ >> 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a >> framework? ActiveState Python does, although

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-09 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote: > Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ > 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a > framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/ > local/bin for the links. It pu

[Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-09 Thread Timothy Reaves
Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/ local/bin for the links. ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-11 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 10-feb-2006, at 1:13, Christopher Barker wrote: Ronald Oussoren wrote: That's not really a problem, I need some kind of test to determine if we can get away with loading C++ code compiled with g++-3.3 into a python build with gcc 4. Boost might also be an option for testing. matplotli

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-09 Thread linda.s
I know the reason that I got confused is I do not know Mac/UNIX well. Is there any good tutorial to read (I understand there are many but just no idea where to start)? Thanks, Linda. ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-09 Thread Christopher Barker
Christopher Barker wrote: > matplotlib has a lot of C++ in it. and there are binaries built for 2.4 on 10.3 on pythonmac.org, if that helps. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-09 Thread Christopher Barker
Ronald Oussoren wrote: > That's not really a problem, I need some kind of test to determine if we > can get away with loading C++ code compiled with g++-3.3 into a python > build with gcc 4. Boost might also be an option for testing. matplotlib has a lot of C++ in it. -Chris -- Christopher B

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8-feb-2006, at 22:31, Bob Ippolito wrote: BTW3. What is the plan w.r.t. merging our patches back into the python repository? I'd like to get all of this into Python 2.5 at the very least. My plan is to make everything work first, and then worry about upstream. I don't have time to go

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8-feb-2006, at 22:45, Bill Noon wrote: On Feb 8, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Is that this omniorb: http://omniorb.sourceforge.net/ ? Yep. Do you by any change have a binary of the python extension for Panther lying about? (for python 2.4 of course). A script that woul

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8-feb-2006, at 21:42, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 8-feb-2006, at 21:21, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 7-feb-2006, at 0:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: Bob, what do you think the timescale is for a universal build? If it's soon, then we should wor

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Bill Noon
On Feb 8, 2006, at 4:16 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > Is that this omniorb: http://omniorb.sourceforge.net/ ? Yep. > > Do you by any change have a binary of the python extension for > Panther lying about? (for python 2.4 of course). A script that would > tell if the c++ constructors would al

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 8, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 8-feb-2006, at 21:42, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > >> >> On 8-feb-2006, at 21:21, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> >>> >>> On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> On 7-feb-2006, at 0:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> >> Bob, w

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Bill Noon
On Feb 8, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > Maybe it is necessary to ensure proper behaviour for C++ extensions > with global > variables that have constructors, in which case we'd probably be > hosed. Does anyone > has a Python extension that does this lying around (compiled using g

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8-feb-2006, at 21:53, Bill Noon wrote: On Feb 8, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Maybe it is necessary to ensure proper behaviour for C++ extensions with global variables that have constructors, in which case we'd probably be hosed. Does anyone has a Python extension that does

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 8, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 8-feb-2006, at 21:21, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> >> On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >>> >>> On 7-feb-2006, at 0:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > Bob, what do you think the timescale is for a universal build?

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8-feb-2006, at 21:21, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 7-feb-2006, at 0:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: Bob, what do you think the timescale is for a universal build? If it's soon, then we should work on re-0writing the web site as though it's rea

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 7-feb-2006, at 0:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> >>> Bob, what do you think the timescale is for a universal build? If >>> it's >>> soon, then we should work on re-0writing the web site as though it's >>> ready to go. >> >> I'd say soon...

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-feb-2006, at 0:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: Bob, what do you think the timescale is for a universal build? If it's soon, then we should work on re-0writing the web site as though it's ready to go. I'd say soon... The only issues left are to sort out the distribution scripts and some more t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-08 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-feb-2006, at 22:32, Christopher Barker wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: I'll tell you what: I'll drop the ego and get a new pair of glasses in exchange for five or six million dollars.. I'll bet I could package up Python, PyObjC etc. with good installers and tutorials for only about a on

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-07 Thread Christopher Barker
Bob Ippolito wrote: > I'll tell you what: I'll drop the ego and get a new pair of glasses in > exchange for five or six million dollars.. I'll bet I could package up Python, PyObjC etc. with good installers and tutorials for only about a one million dollars. Then maybe another million to start

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I agree pretty much completely with Charles Harman, Bill Janssen, and >> others. > > So do I, however Who doesn't? I want world peace too ;) > This is Open Source software! Which doesn't mean that it can't

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Christopher Barker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree pretty much completely with Charles Harman, Bill Janssen, and > others. So do I, however This is Open Source software! Which doesn't mean that it can't be great in every way, but it does mean that it is developed for different reasons than commercial sof

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread lanceboyle
I agree pretty much completely with Charles Harman, Bill Janssen, and others. I learned programming in 1974 and have programmed ever since for my own engineering work. I use and have used many languages, trying to pick the best one for the job. I have gripes with many of the specialized lan

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Bob Ippolito wrote: >> Caveat emptor. You can not build extensions on 10.3.9 when using a >> universal build. > > Fair enough. No is going to be running 10.3 on an Intel Mac. If you > want > to develop for Intel users, you need 10.4. Peri

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Christopher Barker
Bob Ippolito wrote: > Caveat emptor. You can not build extensions on 10.3.9 when using a > universal build. Fair enough. No is going to be running 10.3 on an Intel Mac. If you want to develop for Intel users, you need 10.4. Period. However, given that, I think we should perhaps just suggest th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Louis Pecora
Charles Hartman wrote: > Me & my big mouth. OK, I will take a serious look at the page, and > see whether I can construct something that at least gets to the point > of having blanks that someone with knowledge can fill in. > > Charles > > Charles, It might not be a big job. If you get it

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > NOTE: I think we can recommend the same thing at this point for all > users of OS-X 10.3 and 10.4. It also looks like the new Universal > build > may become the news recommended Python for OS-X 10.3.9 and above, but > it's not ready yet.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Louis Pecora
Christopher Barker wrote: > > I don't think there is blaming: more like expression of frustration and > suggestions for improvement. > > Charles, if you want to help, here's my suggestion: > > Re-write the main pythonmac.org page, then post your version to this > list for discussion. If it is well

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Hartman
Me & my big mouth. OK, I will take a serious look at the page, and see whether I can construct something that at least gets to the point of having blanks that someone with knowledge can fill in. Charles On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Charles, if you want to help, her

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > Kevin Walzer replies to Charles Hartman: >> Charles Hartman wrote: >>> Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere: >>> >>> I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be >>> necessary for >>> people who want to write programs in

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Christopher Barker
Charles Hartman wrote: > Maybe linda.s might have a more useful perspective > at this point? Charles, I totally agree with you about newbies and Python. However, linda.s compiled python from source. Anyone who is compiling from source should darn well be able to figure out how to add something to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Bill Janssen
Kevin Walzer replies to Charles Hartman: > Charles Hartman wrote: > > Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere: > > > > I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be necessary for > > people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all this. > > Great to learn as m

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Hartman
Of course I don't disagree with any of this (except that a version of Revolution is available under academic license for about $60 as I recall). *Certainly* I'm grateful for the work Bob, Ronald, and others are doing to make the whole edifice stand up. I'm not complaining. I'm speculating t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Hartman wrote: > > There are a lot of programming environments on the Mac besides > Applescript that work from the GUI without any need to delve. Runtime > Revolution and Breve are two examples that come to mind immediately. I'm > thinking, fo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Hartman
Oh well, "other platforms" -- if that means Linux of course you have to learn those same things, but you undoubtedly already know them. If it means Windows, I'd rather drive a truck, and I'm thinking particularly of potential users who feel the same way.There are a lot of programming environments o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Hartman wrote: > Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere: > > I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be necessary for > people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all this. > Great to learn as much as

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread linda.s
On 2/6/06, Louis Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > linda.s wrote: > > On 2/6/06, Larry Meyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home > >> directory. > >> --Larry > >> > >> # .bash_profile > >> > >> # Get the aliases and functio

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Hartman
Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere:I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be necessary for people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all this. Great to learn as much as possible, yes, always -- but to require people, just to get started, to learn abo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Louis Pecora
linda.s wrote: > On 2/6/06, Larry Meyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home >> directory. >> --Larry >> >> # .bash_profile >> >> # Get the aliases and functions >> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then >> . ~/.bashrc >> fi >> >> #

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread linda.s
On 2/6/06, Larry Meyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home > directory. > --Larry > > # .bash_profile > > # Get the aliases and functions > if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then > . ~/.bashrc > fi > > # User specific environment and sta

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Larry Meyn
Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home directory.--Larry# .bash_profile# Get the aliases and functionsif [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then        . ~/.bashrcfi# User specific environment and startup programsPATH=/usr/local/bin:/$PATH;export PATH# End of FileOn Feb 6, 2006,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread linda.s
On 2/6/06, Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:00 AM, linda.s wrote: > > Python 2.3.5 instead of Python 2.4.2, very confused... Some one > suggested me to download MacPython. So I am thinking about removing > the Python 2.4.2 from my machine (still curious why it d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Hartman
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:00 AM, linda.s wrote:Python 2.3.5 instead of Python 2.4.2, very confused... Some onesuggested me to download MacPython. So I am thinking about removingthe Python 2.4.2 from my machine (still curious why it did notappear).You just want to change your PATH. If your built-from-scr

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread David Warde-Farley
On 6-Feb-06, at 5:00 AM, linda.s wrote: > Actually I downloaded python 2.4.2 and install it from source. The > installation appeared to be fine until "make install" was complete. > However, after I reenter the terminal and call Python, it still showed > Python 2.3.5 instead of Python 2.4.2, very

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread linda.s
On 2/6/06, David Warde-Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 6-Feb-06, at 4:46 AM, linda.s wrote: > > > How to smoothly remove two former pythons from my Mac? > > I have Python 2.3.5 installed in the machine. I tried to install > > Python 2.4.2 from source but it did not appear. > > How can I sm

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread David Warde-Farley
On 6-Feb-06, at 4:46 AM, linda.s wrote: > How to smoothly remove two former pythons from my Mac? > I have Python 2.3.5 installed in the machine. I tried to install > Python 2.4.2 from source but it did not appear. > How can I smoothly remove both of them and install a another python > version?

[Pythonmac-SIG] install again?

2006-02-06 Thread linda.s
How to smoothly remove two former pythons from my Mac? I have Python 2.3.5 installed in the machine. I tried to install Python 2.4.2 from source but it did not appear. How can I smoothly remove both of them and install a another python version? Thanks! Linda