Re: Mass migration off of qmail because of lack of DSNs?

1999-07-19 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Vince Vielhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 18-May-99 Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, qmail's VERP should allow you to be 100% successful; and DSNs won't, since they're not widely supported. Huh? What's your threshold for "widely supported"? Doesn't sendmail have

relaying setup

1999-07-19 Thread Denis Voitenko
I am in a process of setting up my linux box to relay mail for clients on a 192.168.0.X LAN. I am trying to follow the directions from http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html and here is something that gives me trouble. linux:/etc# tcpserver -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1003 -g103 0 smtp

RE: relaying setup

1999-07-19 Thread Tony Wade
Looks like you have the SMTP port already running in /etc/inetd Tony Wade -Original Message- From: Denis Voitenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 1999 09:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: relaying setup I am in a process of setting up my linux box to relay mail for clients on

Re: relaying setup

1999-07-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Denis Voitenko wrote: I am in a process of setting up my linux box to relay mail for clients on a 192.168.0.X LAN. I am trying to follow the directions from http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html and here is something that gives me trouble.

relaying almost fixed...

1999-07-19 Thread Denis Voitenko
This might sound silly, but the line: tcpserver -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1003 -g102 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail smtpd takes action only if I run it after the system is booted and I logged in as root. The entry in /etc/rc.d/rc.local does not take effect for some reason. Has anyone encountered this

Re: relaying almost fixed...

1999-07-19 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 05:25:54AM -0400, Denis Voitenko wrote: tcpserver is normally installed in /usr/local/bin. However, this directory is not usually found the system startup scripts' PATH. Try using the full pathname in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, like this: /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x .

Re: Mass migration off of qmail because of lack of DSNs?

1999-07-19 Thread Vince Vielhaber
This thread died two months ago. Vince. On 19 Jul 1999, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Vince Vielhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 18-May-99 Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, qmail's VERP should allow you to be 100% successful; and DSNs won't, since they're not widely

qmail Digest 19 Jul 1999 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 702

1999-07-19 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 19 Jul 1999 10:00:00 - Issue 702 Topics (messages 27907 through 27931): CNAME_lookup_failed_temportarily 27907 by: Tom Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qmail exited 27908 by: "Sam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27909 by: Stefan Paletta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tcpserver and

ETRN

1999-07-19 Thread Frank Greven
He, I'am running qmail 1.03 on an RH 6.0 (2.2.5) box and I host mail for special domain. Our client's mail server (no Linux/Unix maschine) makes a dial-up connection to the internet and then want's to to get his emails delivered from our server. I've heard something about ETRN which is applied

qmail analog

1999-07-19 Thread dandiu
Can anyone please tell me what outputs the "x-commands" will generate the syntax for utilizing "x-commands" (i.e. xsenders/xqp/xrec.) within QMAIL Analog? I have gotten the "z-commands" to give certain outputs Newbie to QMAIL Thnx in ADV Ume

Re: getting mail from my ISP with qmail

1999-07-19 Thread Yan Seiner
I collect about 2 doz. accts from 2 (soon to be 3)domains. I was forced to set up a dummy user (mailrelay) that fetchmail delivers all mail to. This account has a .procmailrc which then sorts the mail and retransmits to the appropriate local user. Yan Sim wrote: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Dave

Re: Mass migration off of qmail because of lack of DSNs?

1999-07-19 Thread Russell Nelson
Vince Vielhaber writes: This thread died two months ago. Huh? What's your threshold for "widely supported"? Doesn't sendmail have something like 80% market share and nice DSN support? Not to mention the fact that sendmail's market share is 63% and slipping. -- -russ nelson

Re: ETRN

1999-07-19 Thread Ray Marshall
Frank, On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, you wrote: I'am running qmail 1.03 on an RH 6.0 (2.2.5) box and I host mail for special domain. Our client's mail server (no Linux/Unix maschine) makes a dial-up connection to the internet and then want's to to get his emails delivered from our server. I've

Re: ETRN

1999-07-19 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 02:10:16PM +0200, Frank Greven wrote: Ray has provided a solution for the client end, ie. to use fetchmail. However, on your end, you need to setup a catch-all Maildir for them. Detailed instructions for this are available in the serialmail package, which you will need.

qmail does not deliver certain messages and does not return them

1999-07-19 Thread Holger van Koll
Problem: Sometimes I see a line like that in /var/log/maillog Jul 19 14:20:17 kserver qmail: 932386817.166513 starting delivery 8: msg 1331273 to local @kserver.localdomain Jul 19 14:20:17 kserver qmail: 932386817.169277 delivery 8: success: Last time that happened it was because the reply-to

Re: qmail does not deliver certain messages and does not return them

1999-07-19 Thread Petr Novotny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [snip] Qmail states that everything is fine, but that message will never be received. I know that the e-mail address in the example is wrong, but IMHO it is wrong behaviour NOT to deliver and NOT to bounce the email. Unfortunately, "holger"

ISP: Industry name for various email services?

1999-07-19 Thread Dave Kitabjian
What are the industry-standard names for the following email services: - 1) They can have: any_name@their_domain and a separate POP for each. (.qmail-any_name)

Re: Virtual users

1999-07-19 Thread Petr Novotny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was wondering how the following would work. I have a few domains which o am going to run as virtualdomain and others which are just going to have a smtproute to another server. I want to have some Virtual users deliver to another machine and

Re: qmail does not deliver certain messages and does not return them

1999-07-19 Thread Holger van Koll
Unfortunately, "holger" @vankoll.de is not the only way to make qmail behave like that. I fail to see what you consider erratic behaviour. Qmail received a message and successfully delivered it to zero recipients. Where is the sense in delivering to zero recipients? Can this be called

What happened to email.com's clue?

1999-07-19 Thread Russell Nelson
What happened to email.com mail.com's clue? They're munging envelope sender addresses by deleting everything up to an equal sign. This is non-RFC behavior! You can see what I mean by telnetting to port 25 on an email.com MX and issuing the following smtp commands. I'm presuming that your

Re: qmail does not deliver certain messages and does not return them

1999-07-19 Thread Petr Novotny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I fail to see what you consider erratic behaviour. Qmail received a message and successfully delivered it to zero recipients. Where is the sense in delivering to zero recipients? Can this be called delivering? Well, unless I'm mistaken,

Re: Advantages with qmail and using reiserfs???

1999-07-19 Thread Dave Sill
Troy Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a fairly ongoing problem with some of the users at work who don't seem capable of cleaning out their INBOX, so they end up with 100MB mail spools with 7000 messages in them. I had theorized that chunking over the 100MB mailbox was slow, and that

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 01:25:15AM -0400, Scott Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Command-line arguments are RFC821 addresses, but body addresses are | RFC822 addresses. I'm only talking about the envelope (rfc821 addresses). It's inconsistent

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I ask this here a while back. The answer is that the arguments to qmail-inject | are raw email addresses, they are NOT encoded. Shouldn't that also be true of the address in RCPT TO during an SMTP session?

Re: Advantages with qmail and using reiserfs???

1999-07-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | A clever MUA could maintain that | information separately, but none that I'm aware of actually do. What about xmh and exmh? (I don't think they properly mutex the cache, though.)

Logging tcpserver in.pop3d and cyclog

1999-07-19 Thread Tim Hunter
I am having problems using tcpserver to log messages I use this command to start my pop server supervise /var/supervise/qmail/pop3d tcpserver -v 0 pop-3 /usr/sbin/in.pop3d | setuser qmaill cyclog /var/log/qmail/pop3d/ This command for qmail-send supervise /var/supervise/qmail/send

Re: Advantages with qmail and using reiserfs???

1999-07-19 Thread Jason Haar
most MUA's will only handle mailboxes so big with acceptable performance: they have to open each message file and extract various header information. A clever MUA could maintain that information separately, but none that I'm aware of actually do. I think the Cyrus IMAP server falls into this

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 12:31:31PM -0400, Scott Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I ask this here a while back. The answer is that the arguments to qmail-inject | are raw email addresses, they are NOT encoded. Shouldn't that also be true of the

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | No. That address is encoded according to rfc 821. | Addresses in the headers are encoded according to rfc 822. I am not talking about rfc822 headers, only about rfc821 envelopes. To reiterate: qmail-smtpd strips quotes from RFC821 ENVELOPES (the

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Sam
Scott Schwartz writes: Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | No. That address is encoded according to rfc 821. | Addresses in the headers are encoded according to rfc 822. I am not talking about rfc822 headers, only about rfc821 envelopes. To reiterate: qmail-smtpd strips quotes

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:43:14PM +, There may be some point of argument if the quoted portion can be accurately transcribed as an an RFC822 atom, in which case an argument can be made that quotes can be stripped. However, stripping quotes unilaterally is a completely broken behavior.

Compile Qmail Staticly

1999-07-19 Thread Robert J. Adams
Hello all, I'm working on a qmail-sql patch and since I want to setup a server farm, it would make more sense to compile qmail statically. I really only want the servers to be a bare install. Anyone know if I will see a performance hit by compiling static? I imagine there will be more memory

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Sam
Bruno Wolff III writes: On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:43:14PM +, There may be some point of argument if the quoted portion can be accurately transcribed as an an RFC822 atom, in which case an argument can be made that quotes can be stripped. However, stripping quotes unilaterally is

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:04:47PM +, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do not handle the mail for example.com, don't screw around with example.com's local address. Just pass it along to example.com, and let them deal with it. The way that is handled is requoting this that need to

Login characters limited?

1999-07-19 Thread Sienna
Hello again, We're in the process of switching to qmail but we have a cutomer who has 18 characters in their email. qmail is only allowing 15. is there anyway to change the 15 to something higher? Is there any documentation on aliasing? I'd like to take all of my emails from one

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Sam
Bruno Wolff III writes: On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:04:47PM +, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do not handle the mail for example.com, don't screw around with example.com's local address. Just pass it along to example.com, and let them deal with it. The way that is

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
To make this more concrete, consider the following: RCPT TO:"A B"@ARPA That can be parsed by the grammer given in rfc821. On the other hand, this cannot: RCPT TO:A B@ARPA because ``A B'' contains an SP, which must be quoted somehow. If you send a message via qmail-smtpd to

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
If you look at the "Joe\,Smith" example in rfc 821, it speciifcally says this represents a 9 character string with a comma being the fourth character. However, only the recipient's mail server cares about Joe,Smith. Intermediate mail servers don't care about it. Exactly. That is why any

Return-Path

1999-07-19 Thread David Villeger
Hi all. According to RFC822: 4.3.1. RETURN-PATH This field is added by the final transport system that delivers the message to its recipient. The field is intended to contain definitive information about the address and route back to the message's

Re: Return-Path

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 07:24:41PM -0400, David Villeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Return-Path is added by the *final* transport system. So why is it added by qmail-inject? Are you sure about that? The man page indicates that it deletes return-path headers. It does say that it will set

Re: ETRN

1999-07-19 Thread Simon Elder
Another way I have found to do this is to write a script that runs from a cron job say ~ every 10 minutes that checks if the customer has dialled into you term server. If they have then the script just does a 'killall -HUP qmail-send' .. which forces everything deferred in the queue to be sent

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Scott Schwartz
Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | The original envelope address is: | A B@ARPA | | It is only encoded as: | "A B"@ARPA Rather than arguing about what "is" means, I simply observe (again) that for any value of "is" qmail-smtpd wrongly transforms "A B"@ARPA into A B@ARPA, and wrongly

Re: Return-Path

1999-07-19 Thread Sam
David Villeger writes: On the same subject, if I send an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without the Return-Path field (e.g. by using qmail-queue) but using VERP (so that the envelop sender becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]), the email.com server writes the Return-Path as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Return-Path

1999-07-19 Thread Russell Nelson
Sam writes: David Villeger writes: On the same subject, if I send an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without the Return-Path field (e.g. by using qmail-queue) but using VERP (so that the envelop sender becomes [EMAIL PROTECTED]), the email.com server writes the Return-Path as

Re: Logging tcpserver in.pop3d and cyclog

1999-07-19 Thread Chris Johnson
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 03:35:10PM -0400, Tim Hunter wrote: I am having problems using tcpserver to log messages I use this command to start my pop server supervise /var/supervise/qmail/pop3d tcpserver -v 0 pop-3 /usr/sbin/in.pop3d | setuser qmaill cyclog /var/log/qmail/pop3d/ This

Re: ETRN

1999-07-19 Thread Simon Elder
Woops that should be killall -ALRM qmail-send -Original Message- From: Simon Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 20 July 1999 9:37 Subject: Re: ETRN Another way I have found to do this is to write a script that runs from a cron job say ~ every

Re: Eliding quotes in envelope? (Re: New spammer exploit ...)

1999-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 08:03:45PM -0400, Scott Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | The original envelope address is: | A B@ARPA | | It is only encoded as: | "A B"@ARPA Rather than arguing about what "is" means, I simply observe (again) that

basic question

1999-07-19 Thread Quinn Coldiron
I've read the "tips" section at qmail.org, but I don't quit understand how to fix this problem. I can't send mail to anybody unless I have that person's domain listed in the rcpthosts file. How can this be fixed? Quinn === --- ~ Quinn P.

Re: basic question

1999-07-19 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 10:09:07PM -0400, Quinn Coldiron wrote: FAQ 5.4 I've read the "tips" section at qmail.org, but I don't quit understand how to fix this problem. I can't send mail to anybody unless I have that person's domain listed in the rcpthosts file. How can this be fixed? --

Re: Login characters limited?

1999-07-19 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 06:28:05PM -0700, Sienna wrote: qmail doesn't really limit the size of the local part of an email address. Perhaps the OS is limiting the length of the username, when qmail uses the qmail-getpw call to determine if an address is local. To test this, run: