Version 1.03 of qmail-smtpd is currently configured to reject incoming mail
with bare linefeeds. If a bare linefeed is received, qmail-smtpd returns
an error 451 and a reference to http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html
which explains the error by reference to an IETF draft document known as
822b
>
> OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to
> waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages each
> day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that tells
> them how to unsubscribe. After all, they are stupid, give them so
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:07:17AM +0200, Paulo Jan wrote:
> >
> > OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to
> > waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages each
> > day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that tells
>
> Marco Benetton:
> Hi,
> I want to know if there is a file of configuratione where i can change the
> byte of my qmail log file.
rtfm
multilog is called like this:
multilog s n
where
t | nothingfor timestamped logfiles
4096.. maximum size of one logfile, defaults to
> Russ Allbery:
> It breaks MIME structured bodies, which are often useful for particular
> purposes. It breaks some signed posts. It's useless information for 99%
> of the recipients. And I'm really sick of seeing mailing list posts
> accumulate more and more worthless junk to the point that
Hi,
I am having some strange problem. When ever I am sending mail from local
to local
user then it is adding the domain name for 2 time in from address:
for example: If i will send a mail from" [EMAIL PROTECTED]" to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
then
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will get a mail with from address as
I've got qmail installed and I can send mail, and maildir's are filling up
with new mail.
I need to find docs on getting to my mail with netscape, from remote, and
setting the pop3 server. Later I need to make the virtual domains work.
Which docs should I read?
Is there a grid of options so I
qmail Digest 19 May 2000 10:00:01 - Issue 1006
Topics (messages 41952 through 42043):
A good book for qmail
41952 by: simon.interoute.net.uk
41955 by: Peter van Dijk
Re: Slow Mail Delivery
41953 by: Greg Owen
Re: Mysterious `ezmlm-send:_fatal:_temporary_qmail-queue
Hi
People here are making complaints about the fact that mails are queued
for
A LONG TIME before they get a failure notice. Is this configurable?
--
/hans
Hi
I run qmail as mail server SW. When I configured my Watchguard Firewall
II to use SMTP proxy
a lot of mails stayed in the queue, and I got "connection died" in the
maillog. The
problem arised when MX-records pointed to a "closed" server. I don't now
why, but
qmail never tried the other servers
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0200, Hans Sandsdalen mentioned:
> Hi
>
> People here are making complaints about the fact that mails are queued
> for A LONG TIME before they get a failure notice. Is this configurable?
"man qmail-control" will list all the files that you may need to
config
> person who has sent a "This mail is being queued" message if there is a
> problem. The "queuelifetime" is how long it will sit on a letter, before
There is a program called qmail_bounce that works perfectly for this
purpose. Look at www.qmail.org for
"Brian T. Wightman has written a delayed-m
"John P. Looney" wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0200, Hans Sandsdalen mentioned:
> > Hi
> >
> > People here are making complaints about the fact that mails are queued
> > for A LONG TIME before they get a failure notice. Is this configurable?
>
> "man qmail-control" will list al
power saving...
sorry for the disturbance...
/Ekki
On Fri, 19 May 2000 03:11:43 +0200, qmail wrote:
> Claudio,
> sorry, detailed information will take some more time (we are trying to
> track down things as exact as possible).
> For now:
> - patch is qmail-ldap-1.03-2401.patch
> - no im
Hi all,
I need some help with starting vchkpw.
I have the following line in my rc scripts.
tcpserver -v -R 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup
domain.name
/list/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
&
It was running fine with checkpasswd. All users could pop with
no probl
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> Version 1.03 of qmail-smtpd is currently configured to reject incoming mail
> with bare linefeeds.
Yup. The problem with bare linefeeds is simple: their interpretation
is ambiguous on a Unix machine. Same thing for a bare carriage-return
on a Macintosh. No SMTP clie
Thanks for the replies from Martin Gignac and Timothy Mayo --
I see how now. But for mails sent for local it does not make
sense to use GMT time stamp. Any way to let it use local time?
BTW, I noted mailx and qmail's sendmail use GMT time while mails
sent by pine uses local time. Is that all
Zhiliang Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks for the replies from Martin Gignac and Timothy Mayo --
Did you not get my reply? I already answered your next question:
>I see how now. But for mails sent for local it does not make
>sense to use GMT time stamp. Any way to let it use local time?
I've got qmail installed and I can send mail, and maildir's are filling
up
with new mail.
I need to find docs on getting to my mail with netscape, from remote,
and
setting the pop3 server. Later I need to make the virtual domains work.
Which docs should I read?
Is there a grid of options so I
I don't understand. are you joking with me?
I'm talking about the mail program that this mailing list supports, and POP3
port and mail service that allows a person to get their mail with a pop3
lient. I appreciate the timelyness of your reply, but unfortunately I don't
know how to interpret your
Why are you on this mailing list?
Weslie Turnip wrote:
> Dear Mister Stile,
>
> I have read your question and i have found a solution,
> I think the "new direction" you should take is to shove your head up your ass
>
> Regards,
>
> Weslie.
>
> At 07:22 AM 5/19/00 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >I've got
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 07:35:28AM -0700, John Stile wrote:
> I don't understand. are you joking with me?
I'd be surprised if Russell Nelson really wrote that. For one thing, the name
is spelled incorrectly. It looks like some (insane) person is impersonating
him.
For information on setting up
> Yup. The problem with bare linefeeds is simple: their
> interpretation is ambiguous on a Unix machine.
This is an oversimplification. Unix machines are perfectly capable of
interpreting bare LFs in whatever way the spec might say they should.
There is a practical problem because MTA and MUA i
hello,
/etc/aliases is not working for me
-i installed fastforward-0.51 on a host running linux 2.2.7
- i put the following line in ~alias/.qmail-default
| fastforward -d /etc/aliases.cdb
- installed the cdb package
when u run "newaliases" it creates /etc/aliases.db - the fastforward
pack
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:53:17AM -0400, Michael Mannsberger wrote:
> hello,
>
> /etc/aliases is not working for me
>
> -i installed fastforward-0.51 on a host running linux 2.2.7
> - i put the following line in ~alias/.qmail-default
>
> | fastforward -d /etc/aliases.cdb
>
> - installed t
KUDOS to you for having constructive advice and not being insane.
Thank you. I'll be reading the FAQ's on pop3.
Jerry Walsh wrote:
> John,
>
> you need to use /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d in conjunction with "checkpassword"
>
> For more information read /var/qmail/doc/FAQ
>
> and search for pop3
>
Dear all,
I have already posted a query that all the remote mails(SMTP) are treated
as "locals".
My back up server is working fine with the same configuration.
Is there any other files that i have to check it up other than control
files.
I checked up inetd.conf in /etc. It is also correct as
Greg Hudson writes:
> > Yup. The problem with bare linefeeds is simple: their
> > interpretation is ambiguous on a Unix machine.
>
> This is an oversimplification.
I don't believe so. Email messages consist of lines of text. While
in transit, those lines are separated by the Tenex newline
this is only a test
Hi all, I am not able to set return receipt
feature for my virtual domains over aqmail.The qrecript feature
requires .qmail for each user.My virtual users do not have any .qmail on
there home diris there a way to overcome this issueAny help is
appreaciated
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On 19 May 00, at 18:43, Walid Kassab wrote:
> this is only a test
Glad to know. Thanks.
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At 06:46 PM 5/19/00 +0200, Walid Kassab wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I am not able to set return receipt feature for my virtual domains over a
>qmail.
>
>The qrecript feature requires .qmail for each user.
>My virtual users do not have any .qmail on there home dir
>is there a way to overcome
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 10:03:15PM -0700, James wrote:
> Clemens wrote:
> :please send us the scripts in question and the setup you got working. at
> :the time beeing i can't tell you anything for final. and another thing:
> :what do you mean by "roaming users"?
>
> By "roaming users" I mean u
Thus spake Russell Nelson on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 06:58:35AM CDT
>
> Given the differing interpretations of bare linefeeds and
> carriage-returns, they must be disallowed by the SMTP specification,
> and they must not be accepted by SMTP clients or servers.
Russ, thanks.
How do you reconcile th
At 5/18/2000 08:26 PM -0500, Troy Frericks wrote or quoted:
> >
>Don't burry it in the header, don't require them to keep something, don't
>require them to remember a web site, just attach the information to the
>end of each message; then those stupid people will feel real stupid if
>they miss
At 5/18/2000 09:47 PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote or quoted:
>It breaks MIME structured bodies, which are often useful for particular
>purposes. It breaks some signed posts. It's useless information for 99%
>of the recipients. And I'm really sick of seeing mailing list posts
>accumulate more and
> Roughly a half-dozen people *per day* sent in messages asking how to get
> off the list.
A lot of that depends on how long the average person stays on the list.
On another list that I belong to, most people stay there for months or
more. Whenever someone asks "how do I unsubscribe", even th
> Say, here's an idea, which I'm not sure how difficult it would be to implement:
>
> What if, when you first subscribe, it automatically sends you messages with
> a footer, and the footer says something like:
Here's another. WHy not have all the list email sent out with a reply
address that is
At 5/19/2000 10:44 AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted:
>Here's another. WHy not have all the list email sent out with a reply
>address that is the unsubscribe address. That way, a reply to the email
>automatically goes to the unsubscribe address and only those smart enough
>to change the
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> Thus spake Russell Nelson on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 06:58:35AM CDT
> >
> > Given the differing interpretations of bare linefeeds and
> > carriage-returns, they must be disallowed by the SMTP specification,
> > and they must not be accepted by SMTP clients or servers.
Thus spake Russell Nelson on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 01:22:36PM CDT
>
> I would point out to the author of the spec that it is requiring that
> messages be mangled when received on Unix systems.
I'm sure the IETF process permits such input.
> Also, the patch is there on www.qmail.org, if it bothe
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> Thanks, Russ. The 'fix' is fairly trivial and I've already done it, and in
> fact routinely do it for qmail installs I do. In real-world terms, it costs
> more in tech support time to deal with complaints and problems resulting
> from rejection of non-compliant emai
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> My purpose here was to inquire regarding what appears to be a conflict
> between qmail and an emerging standard.
You are misinterpreting 822bis. If someone tries to relay some spam
through your server, and the spam uses obsolete syntax, do you think
that your server is r
Thus spake Russell Nelson on Fri, May 19, 2000 at 02:28:22PM CDT
>
> The tech support response should be "Your email client has a bug.
> Update it to the newest version. If the problem is still present, ask
> your email client vendor to fix it. Give them the smtplf URL." OTOH,
> Dan could have
Kai MacTane wrote:
> People who are determined to be stupid seem to be:
>
> a) 100% capable of being stupid, no matter how easy you try to make it
> for them to be smart (or at least average); and
> b) 100% incapable of being convinced that they're being stupid. They
> will rationalize a
Uwe Ohse wrote:
> The system is running out of memory during the startup of perl.
Is perl being started by one qmail users (qmails, qmaill, etc)?
with ulimit added to .qmail file:
deferral:
time(seconds)_unlimited
/file(blocks)_unlimited
/data(kbytes)_unlimited
/stack(kbytes)_2097148
/coredump
Paulo Jan wrote:
> Based on my experience in other mailing lists, I can guarantee you
> that, after adding unsubbing information in the footer of the message,
> you will *still* receive mails from people asking "remove me" or "how do
> I unsub".
In our experience after adding a trailer t
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 01:53:35PM -0700, Lidia Marchioni wrote:
> Is perl being started by one qmail users (qmails, qmaill, etc)?
No, not really - it's started by whoever own that .qmail.
But the ulimit is inherited from the shell that started qmail.
> /nofiles(descriptors)_64
> /memory(kbyt
Russell Nelson wrote:
> Lidia Marchioni writes:
> > I always get the following error: deferral:
> > ld.so.1:_/usr/bin/perl:_fatal:_/usr/lib/libc.so.1:_mmap_failed:
> > _Not_enough_space/preline:_fatal:_child_crashed/
>
> Hehe. How are you starting up qmail? From a /service/qmail/run file?
>
- Original Message -
From: "Russell Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri 19 May 2000 8:26
Subject: Re: The current status of IETF drafts concerning bare linefeeds
> Life *is* change. You can detect the absence of life by the absence
> of change. "Be liberal in
you'd have to post-process each and every message you delivered based on
subscriber options.
in this particular case, the option is on or off, so you could
potentially have separate lists for the different options. but that
could quickly spiral out of control if you had a bunch of options.
pers
Lidia Marchioni writes:
> "ulimit -v 2048"
>
> I understand that this limits the size of virtual memory available to qmail.
> Does it mean that qmaill tries to start perl but fails because of the above
> limit? What value is advisable here?
4096 seems to work just fine.
--
-russ nelson <
I removed that ulimit line from the init scripts I distribute a while back
when it started causing erratic behavior on some systems. I asked on the
list what people thought a "good" value would be, but I received no replies.
I suggest experimenting with different values until you find one that y
At 04:47 PM 5/19/00 , Racer X wrote:
[snip]
i'd rather see mailing list owners boot people permanently
>from mailing lists for sending unsub requests to the list. maybe we
>could set up a blacklist of mailing list morons and ban them from every
>mailing list.
[snip]
So, what you are saying is ma
At 01:19 PM 5/19/00 , Kai MacTane wrote:
>At 5/19/2000 10:44 AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted:
>
>>Here's another. WHy not have all the list email sent out with a reply
>>address that is the unsubscribe address. That way, a reply to the email
>>automatically goes to the unsubscribe addr
Think I've figured out what was wrong. Read about queue-cleaning in the
INTERNALS document that comes with qmail and I believe the problem is that a
big email got stuck at the beginning of the queue while I was shutting down
the system (I didn't leave time for qmail-send to exit properly). I guess
VBS/Newlove.a is a VB Script worm with virus qualities.
McAfee AVERT has assessed it as a HIGH-risk threat. This
worm searches all drives connected to the host system and
replaces all files with copies of itself and it
adds the
extension .VBS to the original filename. The original file
i
Uwe Ohse wrote:
> > ulimit -v 2048
> > Should I just change it to unlimited?
>
> or 8192 or something, yes. (well, check the manual page of the
> shell you are using - the ulimit command tends to do different
> things in different shells).
geee, it's going to take 3 days to get this changed...
l
On May 19, 2000 at 20:40:26 -0400, Martin Gignac twiddled the keys to say:
> Think I've figured out what was wrong. Read about queue-cleaning in the
> INTERNALS document that comes with qmail and I believe the problem is that a
> big email got stuck at the beginning of the queue while I was shutti
> McAfee AVERT has assessed it as a HIGH-risk threat.
It's now: Medium On Watch
We haven't seen a single copy of this (compared to 13000
copies of LoveBug on day 1). Nor have any of the AV
companies I've spoken to.
There's no doubt that this new worm does exist, and that
it is extremely harmf
A few days ago, I asked about "Metering POP related email traffic?"
on this list.
Markus Stumpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggested me to patch
qmail-pop3d.c to output the number of bytes on every successfull
"RETR" command (probably to STDERR). Today, I got some spare time, so
I took a look of qmail-
Steve Wolfe wrote:
>
> more. Whenever someone asks "how do I unsubscribe", even though the
> instructions are at the bottom of the message, they generally get subjected
> to quite a bit of public humiliation and mockery. The good side is that
> other people on the list notice it, and realize
HelloI have installed qmail.but not very sure whether i have done
it properly.ifi telnet to port 25 it works but if i telnet to 110 ,I am
getting this error"- ERR this user has no $homeMaildir .Do i have to
install maildirSuresh
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