Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-25 Thread Mahlon Smith
Just to stick in another random opinion: I've been pretty pine die hard for almost 3 years now. I tried out mutt about a month ago, and just couldn't make the switch. Went back to pine and Mailbox, despite personally preferring Maildir. Tried it again about 3 days ago due to peer pressure and

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-25 Thread James R Grinter
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:32:29AM +, James R Grinter wrote: But, it doesn't matter - Pine does IMAP right? (Isn't that it's real reason for existence?) So hook your Maildirs up with IMAP, and point Pine at that. Seems pretty simple to me.

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-24 Thread James R Grinter
"Pavel Kankovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Adam McKenna wrote: The author of PINE flat out refuses to support Maildir. Umm...doesn't it sound familiar? ;) But, it doesn't matter - Pine does IMAP right? (Isn't that it's real

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-24 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:32:29AM +, James R Grinter wrote: But, it doesn't matter - Pine does IMAP right? (Isn't that it's real reason for existence?) So hook your Maildirs up with IMAP, and point Pine at that. Seems pretty simple to me. How about this: Use a non-crappy, open source

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-24 Thread Peter Cavender
But, it doesn't matter - Pine does IMAP right? (Isn't that it's real reason for existence?) So hook your Maildirs up with IMAP, and point Pine at that. Seems pretty simple to me. How about this: Use a non-crappy, open source e-mail client instead? --Adam And what MUA is that?

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Peter Cavender [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PINE may be limited, but it sure is useful as a quick and dirty console-base MUA. I figured out how to use in in about 3 minutes without having to RTFM. If you've ever had to deal with the code, dirty is definitely an accurate description. But as I

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-24 Thread Peter Cavender
PINE may be limited, but it sure is useful as a quick and dirty console-base MUA. I figured out how to use in in about 3 minutes without having to RTFM. If you've ever had to deal with the code, dirty is definitely an accurate description. Well, yes. I once tried to hack just pico,

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-21 Thread Alex Pennace
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:03:38AM -0500, tc lewis wrote: plus the whole idiotic self-quoting thing on the top of mutt's web page, and some other stuff on the web pages, just makes me think that the author is an idiot. but that's certainly not very objective reasoning. This is

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-21 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Adam McKenna wrote: The author of PINE flat out refuses to support Maildir. Umm...doesn't it sound familiar? ;) --Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ] "Resistance is futile. Open your source code

[OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Henning Brauer
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 10:42:11PM -, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: In discusion - regard to Maildir versus mailbox question - for promoting Maidir were is useful to encourage pine authors to adapting the pine program for directly work with Maildir fromat. maybe you find this useful, I don't.

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Piotr Kasztelowicz
Hello Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't This is the good opportunity to make functionality of Mutt better. I let to see to much porblems and this is reason, that I don't use Mutt with plesure. Piotr --- Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:12:55AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't start a MUA discussion here. If you want pine to support Maildirs natively (mutt does btw) contact the pine authors, this is _ways_ OT here. The author of

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:45:31PM +, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: Hello Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't This is the good opportunity to make functionality of Mutt better. I let to see to much porblems and this is reason, that I don't use Mutt

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread tc lewis
i've had lots of problems with mutt concerned its sorting. i've consistently seen mutt think messages from november 28th interpreted as being from january 4th, 2002, as an example. weird things like that. that's simply unacceptable to me. plus the whole idiotic self-quoting thing on the top

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Piotr Kasztelowicz
Hello take a few days for most pine users to make the switch. I will not say, that mutt is not-useful, but it could be better :-) For me - the first problem is how make, that the sent mail shall be placed in sent folder - Neverless it don't me simple :-( and I have to less time to sacrificate

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:24:05 -0500 (EST), Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: P I will not say, that mutt is not-useful, but it could be better :-) For P me - the first problem is how make, that the sent mail shall be placed P in sent folder. If you want a copy of all your sent

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Mark Delany
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:56:27PM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:24:05 -0500 (EST), Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: P I will not say, that mutt is not-useful, but it could be better :-) For P me - the first problem is how make, that the sent mail shall be

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread Alex Pennace
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:02:51PM -0500, tc lewis wrote: i've had lots of problems with mutt concerned its sorting. i've consistently seen mutt think messages from november 28th interpreted as being from january 4th, 2002, as an example. weird things like that. that's simply unacceptable

Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)

2001-01-20 Thread tc lewis
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Alex Pennace wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:02:51PM -0500, tc lewis wrote: i've had lots of problems with mutt concerned its sorting. i've consistently seen mutt think messages from november 28th interpreted as being from january 4th, 2002, as an example. weird