Dear All
I have a query regarding the way qmail (?incorrectly?) handles time zones. I
have done various tests on this, the relevant portion of header of one test
email below. Essentially I sent a mail out from a client on my internal
network to qmail on my gateway machine, which forwarded to
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 08:19:27AM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote:
[snip]
I have already read previous (heated) discussions on this topic on the list
archive but could not discern a clear answer apart from some people saying
qmail works as designed - why? It seems to be the only mail
Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
people saying qmail works as designed - why?
Because it makes debugging easier.
It seems to be the only mail server that does so.
So what? Is that a problem?
Received: (qmail 1266 invoked from network); 11 May 2001 21:22:45 -
Received:
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Patrick Starrenburg wrote:
I sent the mail from the client at 19:22 GMT +0200 (western Europe summer
time) it arrived back to me about a minute later and displays on my client
MUA as being received at **23:23** hours, i.e. four hours in the future!
[...]
The client PC
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
qmail uses - because it is the receiving MUA's task to display the
date in the format the user desires. If your MUA is unable to do so,
complain to the MUA author.
It does, pls check my original mail. You will see that the MUA fully and
correctly
Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
people saying qmail works as designed - why?
Because it makes debugging easier.
? I was meaning works as designed putting (possibly) incorrect timestamps
on emails. Are you meaning debugging times or debugging qmail? If the former
then that is
Dear All
OK, sigh... I was hoping to avoid the religious OS wars and I intend to
stick to the facts, I hope everyone else can also. I need to give you some
further details on the setup. Also I have done a further test and I still
see a problem with qmail.
I have a network (for purposes of
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Patrick Starrenburg wrote:
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
qmail uses - because it is the receiving MUA's task to display the
date in the format the user desires. If your MUA is unable to do so,
complain to the MUA author.
It does, pls check my original
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:28:53PM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote:
[snip]
*Linux box*
[root@linuxbox patrick]# date
Sun May 13 17:02:55 GMT+2 2001 - Check
Yes.
*W2K box*
C:\date
The current date is: Sun 13/05/2001 - European date format naturally
C:\time
The current time is:
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:47:46PM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote:
Code bloat?? Doesn't seem like an excuse to me to (**possibly** we haven't
determined this yet) have a fundamental error in a system because someone
doesn't feel like adding code to internationalise something.
Why do you
Your problem is almost certainly not qmail related.
First off you may want to learn how Unix/Linux keeps time. Believe it
or not, Unix/Linux don't know anything about timezones. They all keep
time internally in UTC (nee GMT). Yes, every Unix server on the planet
current has the same time. To
Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(as it is summer and for once the sun is shining in Holland) with
daylight saving it is GMT +02:00. So...
I repeat: there must something wrong with your Linux setup. Qmail uses
system calls of the underlying operating system to generate the
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On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:28:53PM +0200, Patrick Starrenburg wrote:
% *Linux box*
% [root@linuxbox patrick]# date
% Sun May 13 17:02:55 GMT+2 2001 - Check
Your clock seems to be set wrong. According to Solaris and at least
one web page I dug up, http://www.bsdi.com/date, GMT+2 is a posix
time
Thus spake Patrick Starrenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
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*Test email*
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Received: (qmail 6078 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 **18:56:24** -
[[[ Where does 18: come from ??]]]
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On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 09:10:12PM +0200, Felix von Leitner wrote:
[snip]
The date 18:56:24 - is equivalent to the date 16:56:24 +0200, so
there is no error whatsoever here. The MTA prints the date as GMT,
which actually is a feature, because it allows easy comparison of dates
by
Thanks to Adrian Ho and Mark Jefferys explanations for the solution. Adrian
you were halfway there with your first reply and Mark's link pointed me in
the right direction to track down the problem. The TZ setting was GMT +2
which apparently means actually the box was calculating GMT **minus 2
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