[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 05:35 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account It appears that either the password for "valid vpopmail account" has been compromised, or the computer being used by that user has some m

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
On 02/16/2014 09:27 AM, Wicus Roets wrote: Thanks Eric. Steps I took upon noticing: 1.) qmailctl stop 2.)qmHandle -S"YOUR BLAH BLAH..." 3.) Reviewed bounce messages and deleted them with qmHandle upon review qmail-qstat qmail-qread qmHandle -mxxx quick check on mail mes

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
On 02/16/2014 10:20 AM, Wicus Roets wrote: In favour of myself and some else referring to this mail list in future, would you mind elaborating on qmail-remote throttling? (until the "offending/spamming user" feature gets implemented) Presently, qmail-remote has no throttle other than the concur

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
e it's deemed stable (by me), QMT will use it to handle authentication (on port 587). -- -Eric 'shubes' Thanks -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 08:14 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
this. -- -Eric 'shubes' -Original Message- From: Dan McAllister [mailto:q...@it4soho.com] Sent: 16 February 2014 08:33 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account Wicus' issues are not uncommon: An "attacker&

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
I don't see how fail2ban would be of any help with this. Can you elaborate? -- -Eric 'shubes' On 02/16/2014 12:11 PM, Finn Buhelt wrote: Hi. Wouldn't it be possible to block port 25 outgoing and let fail2ban check submission logs ? Regards, Finn Den 16-02-2014 19:33, Dan McAllister skrev:

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
On 02/16/2014 11:33 AM, Dan McAllister wrote: Wicus' issues are not uncommon: An "attacker" gains a password (through guesswork or other means) of a user on your system, then proceeds to spam the hell out of the world from your system. Alternatively, some user gets a malware infection on their

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
Yes, but in this case there are no bad entries. The spammer has the password. I suppose F2B might check for a number of submissions in a given time period, but blocking and unblocking could get to be cumbersome. I suppose a throttle could be put on qmail-smtp to limit submissions. The proble

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
On 02/16/2014 04:17 PM, Wicus Roets wrote: Therefore, my confusion relates to using Telnet, whereby no authentication is implemented prior to sending the test message? Like Dan said, messages are only accepted (on port 25) with no authentication when the message is for local (rcpthost) deliver

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
On 02/16/2014 02:59 PM, Dan McAllister wrote: Again, the CORRECT use of port 25 is SOLELY for the receipt of inbound messages for the local server. Users (who authenticate) should be using ports 587 or 465 -- which, after they authenticate, will allow them to relay to other servers. I agree wit

[qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Shubert
d. Will advise should we pick up anything. -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 17 February 2014 04:50 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account On 02/16/2014 02:59 PM, Dan McAllister wrote:

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
... -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 06:11 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account There are bit flags associated with each user account which can be set with the /h

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 07:03 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account On 02/16/2014 09:27 AM, Wicus Roets wrote: > Thanks Eric. > > Steps I took upon noticing: > &

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
--Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 07:03 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account On 02/16/2014 09:27 AM, Wicus Roets wrote: > Thanks Eric. > > Steps I took upon noticin

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Eric Broch
feature gets implemented) > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] > Sent: 16 February 2014 07:03 PM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account > > On 02/16/2014 09:27 AM, Wicus Roets wrote:

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
l based only on the "rcpt to:" of the header. As an interim, would inclusion of verification on the "mail from:" be easier/quicker ? Thanks -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 08:14 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoas

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Dan McAllister
Wicus' issues are not uncommon: An "attacker" gains a password (through guesswork or other means) of a user on your system, then proceeds to spam the hell out of the world from your system. Alternatively, some user gets a malware infection on their system that uses their mail program (usuall

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
ister [mailto:q...@it4soho.com] Sent: 16 February 2014 08:33 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account Wicus' issues are not uncommon: An "attacker" gains a password (through guesswork or other means) of a user on

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread LHTek
PM >Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account > > >Wicus' issues are not uncommon: > >An "attacker" gains a password (through guesswork or other means) of a >user on your system, then proceeds to spam the hell out of the world >f

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Finn Buhelt
Hi. Wouldn't it be possible to block port 25 outgoing and let fail2ban check submission logs ? Regards, Finn Den 16-02-2014 19:33, Dan McAllister skrev: Wicus' issues are not uncommon: An "attacker" gains a password (through guesswork or other means) of a user on your system, then procee

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
s.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 09:56 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account On 02/16/2014 11:32 AM, Wicus Roets wrote: > That explains is quite nicely. > > One more question though ;) > > Quoting from "http://gmane.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Finn Buhelt
Hi Eric. You can have Fail2ban check Your logs for bad entries that happens within a given period of time and then ban the IP address (Ip tables). Let Fail2ban check on the LAN ip address that is submitting the email in the submit log and then take action when Your tresholds are triggered -

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Dan McAllister
on authentication of a valid account/pw pair, how could I have send mail via telnet on port 25 by only supplying a valid account (without a password)? -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 16 February 2014 09:56 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subjec

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Dan McAllister
r] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account Wicus' issues are not uncommon: An "attacker" gains a password (through guesswork or other means) of a user on your system, then proceeds to spam the hell out of the world from your system. Alternatively, some user gets a

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
Message-rcp From: Dan McAllister [mailto:q...@it4soho.com] Sent: 17 February 2014 12:00 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account Wicus - On port 25 CURRENTLY: - If the connection is for a LOCAL address (that is: the RECIPIE

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account

2014-02-16 Thread Wicus Roets
hines within the network is currently be performed. Will advise should we pick up anything. -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: 17 February 2014 04:50 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail accoun