I do apologize to those who are interested in the million-dollar
challenge for not posting my advice on Sunday afternoon as I had
promised; for it had slipped my mind (which is sorely ailing of late)
that my wife had arranged and Easter/Birthday dinner for me and our
family, and I was unable to wor
I got life insurance about 1 year ago. I am a C6-7 quad. I am in what
they considered very good shape ... for a quad. I was able to get a 1
million dollar renewable term life insurance policy from Beneficial
Financial for $350 per month. They told me I was rated as highly as a
quad could be
I couldn't disagree more. It is quite the other way around. Embryonic
stem cells have not yielded any useful results when it comes to SCI.
The whole issue has been used as a political football by people who
couldn't care less about curing SCI. The proof is clear. Embryonic
stem cells are re
If it's not me getting murdered in the inner city why should I care? Dan T.
Angie Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What if your cousin's son had a disease
or suffered a spinal cord injury? Wouldn't you want any treatment possible to
be available to him to stop his agony? I know I would for my
If human life is not sacred then what the heck is? If a human acts as a
derelict, this does not make his humanness unsacred. His life is sacred his
behavior is another story and a civil society respects his humanness by not
executing him and removes him from society. Dan T.
Jim Lubin <[EMAIL
At 05:50 PM 4/8/2007, Dan wrote:
At 05:29 PM 4/8/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited
my response:
Risking a life and taking a chance is not the same as willfully
terminating a life. I wasn't happy that she was doing IVF because I
don't agree with it. I also wasn't paying the th
It can be done by folding the cath tube over and wearing a condom. That's what
I do.
I'm not sure but, I don't think it's very easy to pull a full catheter balloon
out through a man's penis.
Luke
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, 7
Not to make light of a serious situation, but this issue is being clouded by
both facts and some.
I'm easily confused by some of those "facts."
W
In a message dated 4/8/2007 1:04:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am against the whole IVF process that creates ex
At 05:29 PM 4/8/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response:
>Risking a life and taking a chance is not the same as willfully terminating a
>life. I wasn't happy that she was doing IVF because I don't agree with it. I
>also wasn't paying the thousands of dollars the treatmen
Risking a life and taking a chance is not the same as willfully
terminating a life. I wasn't happy that she was doing IVF because I
don't agree with it. I also wasn't paying the thousands of dollars
the treatments cost. She and her husband had decided that if the
first implantation had been suc
This is crazy,
IVF: The only reason this exist is to serve a purpose and they also know
going into it that embryos are going to die, so it’s planned and calculated
sacrifice of human life to improve another.
How is research any different than IVF?
Mark Jackson
RollinOn
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All I know is that BILLIONS of poor chicken egg embryo's got boiled this
week for today--Easter.and some say all life is precious.. animal rights
groups want to kill humans for eating animals of any kind. So i guess any point
can be argued huh ? lol I was just reading all the stem
Yes Jim,
But there was a chance that she wouldn’t have naturally and it was a risk
she was willing to take.
If the first would’ve not failed then the others would’ve been trashed and
it happens daily, and fertilizing an egg and implanting it is “not” natural.
I know she didn’t willfully terminat
I have talked with quite a few insurance companies about life insurance
for myself and most say YOUR A QUADRIPLEGIC---good luck we can't help you at
all. One guy just said that quads have to many medical factors against
them...including not normal bladder or bowel use..and said those 2 t
No difference by your definition of life, having a consciousness.
A human of 50-150 cells is going to die anyway. I don't consider it a
life, so take parts of it before it dies to possibly improve my life.
Why not let the death serve a purpose?
This guy just suddenly stopped breathing. If we
Amen!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] film required
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:13:40 -0400
Yup, pretty sick stuff. I don't mind them doing it to themselves but I
resent them wanting benefits that we have had to fight for. When they are
done mutilating th
At 01:11 PM 4/8/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response:
>Dan,
>
>Her eggs were harvested then fertilized with her husbands sperms, this
>resulted in 8 embryos. Four were implanted in uterus, all 4 failed to develop
>and she had a miscarriage. Several month later she had
The very embryos that we're talking about, are not going to survive in the
first place. They will never be put in a womb to see if they will survive.
They aren't babies, just 50-150 life-saving and life changing cells. Why don't
more people see that?
-Angie
Jim Lubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
Dan,
Her eggs were harvested then fertilized with her husbands sperms,
this resulted in 8 embryos. Four were implanted in uterus, all 4
failed to develop and she had a miscarriage. Several month later she
had 3 more implanted and those failed to develop.
How could anyone possibly equate a mi
I want to know why it is ok to fertilize these eggs and set them up for a
certain death and then their religious morals kick in and preach it’s ok to
create life for destruction but not destroy it to saves lives, just throw
that in the trash I’m done with it!
Mark Jackson
RollinOn
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At 11:01 AM 4/8/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response:
>I am against the whole IVF process that creates excess embryos to begin with.
>On a side note, my cousin just gave birth to a son last week. He was the
>result of IVF from her egg and her husband's sperm. They ha
An eight-month-old fetus is very different from an embryo. That's why there
are laws against abortion after a certain time. No, I don't see a problem with
using what I don't consider a human life to better myself and anyone like us.
We're different than 50-150 cells that are going to be destr
Angie,
I do respect your opinion, even if I don't agree with it. You at
least state that you define "a life" as having a consciousness. I am
not aware if an 8 month old fetus has a consciousness or not but I
would consider that stage of development a life. That is why I define
a human life fro
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- Original Message -
From: Robert Brennan
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] LIFE INSURANCE
I recently took out lif
I recently took out life insurance,but after reading this article,it seems that
upon my death it will be null and void as, it seems quadriplegia will always
be a contributing factor to my death. Should i cancel it ?
Rob.
Paul Jacobson <[EMAIL
What if your cousin's son had a disease or suffered a spinal cord injury?
Wouldn't you want any treatment possible to be available to him to stop his
agony? I know I would for my nephew.
How is it self-centered to want to be in control of your body, something you
had before your spinal cord
Adult stem cells just aren't as versatile and promising as those who promote
them over embryonic stem cells would like you to believe. Adult stem cells are
a distraction. It would be wonderful if they would work as well as embryonic
stem cells, cutting down the pointless controversy and gettin
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course. But look at some of the
people around, can we really say that all human life is precious? I can't.
There are just some people living their lives out there walking around and
breathing that don't deserve to be. However, these are people, not j
I am against the whole IVF process that creates excess embryos to begin with.
The frozen embryos can continued to be stored
indefinitely. What's wrong with that? Are you
concerned about the energy being used to keep
them frozen? The embryos that are unfrozen
eventually die a natural death, ju
Thanks to nature, women are constructed differently then their male
counterpart. Physically, a woman can wear a foley cath and still be expose
for sex.
While men wearing foleys are pretty much covered. The foley must be removed
to complete the act of sex.
Keep in mind that bacteria in
many have sex w/ a foley
- Original Message -
From: Jessica Ann Gordon
Date: Saturday, April 7, 2007 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sex
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> >
> >> does anyone have sex with an indwelling catheter?
> >
> > this sounds risky to me... am i the only one? it could be
>
On Apr 8, 2007, at 12:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
many have sex w/ a foley
i can see how many women might but it seems completely different for
a guy...
Amen Amy!
The point I had hoped to make was those males with foleys, no. Women with
foleys, yes... when
very careful.
"You can't always get what you want... but if you try hard, you might get
what you need"
W
In a message dated 4/8/2007 9:14:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL P
I hope you're kidding.
Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those
useless fertilized eggs. We should let them perish on their own and then we
should have an elaborate funeral and bury them in a tiny little plot of earth.
AND we must not allow abortion at ANY co
So what do you do with the thousands of excess fertilized eggs that result from
in vitro fertilization? Store them forever? Ban the process? These excess eggs
are thrown into the garbage everyday yet I don't hear anyone complaining. So
what's your answer.
Dan
At 07:50 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim
Ok...I always have to jump in on this subject. I am an Ab girlfriend of a
quad...(Hi honey!). Sex is not an issues as far as I am concerned. I think he
worries more about it than I do. First of all there is more than one way to
please a woman. I very much enjoy the intimacy that we have. I have
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