Michael B Allen wrote:
> Ninty minutes later the time is ahead of the time server by 36 seconds.
That drift rate is uncorrectable by ntpd. (It may step repeatedly,)
Normally this would indicate a seriously broken motherboard, although,
in this case, it may be software related, particularly if an
Michael B Allen wrote:
> The following config works:
>
> driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
> server 192.168.2.15 iburst
>
> The clock was sync'd in a matter of seconds.
>
> I kinda figured it would work since I have other servers that use it
> and I've asked about this on this list before and
"Steve Kostecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> John Johnson wrote:
[...]
>> Now, is what I am trying to do feasible?
>
> No.
>
> One ntpd is all you need.
I think you must be using a different definition of the word 'feasible'
from everybody else.
As a software guy
"Michael B Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> [...] Could the fact that Ubuntu is running in VMWare Server be a problem?
Yes. Very much so. Install the VMWare tools and let the virtual machine
host control the passage of time on the clients. Only run NTP on the
h
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> A comment in ntp.conf and/or the startup file, explaining WHY stepping
> is enabled should go a long way toward solving the "dumbass" problem.
We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
makes no sense. This kind of thing belongs in the Supp
Harlan,
What you see from me is what you get. How you incorporate it in whatever
archive you maintain is at your convenience.
Dave
Harlan Stenn wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David L. Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> David> While I don't maintain the changelog, it would
Danny Mayer wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>
>>A comment in ntp.conf and/or the startup file, explaining WHY stepping
>>is enabled should go a long way toward solving the "dumbass" problem.
>
>
> We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
> makes no sense. Thi
Maarten Wiltink wrote:
> "Michael B Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>>[...] Could the fact that Ubuntu is running in VMWare Server be a problem?
>
>
> Yes. Very much so. Install the VMWare tools and let the virtual machine
> host control the passage of t
On 2008-03-11, Maarten Wiltink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Steve Kostecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>> John Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Now, is what I am trying to do feasible?
>>
>> One ntpd is all you need.
>
> I think you must be using a different definition of the word
> 'feasible' f
On 2008-03-11, chowalit.lab Chowalit Lab Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So It's wrong on my GPS (GPSmap60).
The problem with the GPSMAP 60 is that it is the wrong type of GPS
receiver for an application which needs highly stable time.
There are two types of GPS receivers: mapping and timing.
VFikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is simple: A big building, about 350-400 Windows XP PCs,
> and 2 Linux servers not only for NTP, but for it too... Now today, on
> my laptop I had to edit the registry of the XP, so it could sync with
> the NTP. Does some one have an idea, how to ski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (chowalit.lab Chowalit Lab Linux) writes:
>Thanks all,
> So It's wrong on my GPS (GPSmap60). Oh... So If I still use this
>GPS I should add offset with fudge option. Can I get other source from
>this GPS?
No idea what you are asking. GPS without a PPS (Pulse per Second) opt
Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>On 2008-03-11, chowalit.lab Chowalit Lab Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So It's wrong on my GPS (GPSmap60).
>The problem with the GPSMAP 60 is that it is the wrong type of GPS
>receiver for an application which needs highly stable time.
>There ar
"Steve Kostecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On 2008-03-11, Maarten Wiltink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As a software guy, I've wondered before about the monolithic nature of
>> the NTP package. Splitting it into a client and server part might make
>> some peopl
"Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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[...]
> My experience with VMWare is limited to VMWare ESX. With ESX all you
> need to do is to log in as root, edit ntp.conf to include your favorite
> servers, start ntpd and enjoy.
Is that the free one? (The free
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:30:20 +
David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know how VMWare handles the TSC, but unless it handles it in a
> away intended for real time measurement, rather than CPU usage
> measurement the calibration may be run at a time that doesn't match
> average c
> One instance of ntpd is all that is necessary to perform both of these
> tasks at the same time.
I realize that what I am trying to do is very easily accomplished with
one
instance of ntpd. However, I assure you that the manner in which I am
trying to accomplish it is absolutely necessary fo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johnson, John-P63914) writes:
>> One instance of ntpd is all that is necessary to perform both of these
>> tasks at the same time.
>I realize that what I am trying to do is very easily accomplished with
>one
>instance of ntpd. However, I assure you that the manner in which
On 2008-03-11, Johnson, John-P63914 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realize that what I am trying to do is very easily accomplished with
> one instance of ntpd. However, I assure you that the manner in which I
> am trying to accomplish it is absolutely necessary for my particular
> application.
Ca
On 2008-03-11, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>The USD249.99 GPSMAP 60 is a mapping receiver.
>
>>The USD74.50 GPS18 LVC is a timing receiver.
>
> 68.50
The exact price is irrelevant.
The key detail here, which you overlooked in your haste, is the
Maarten Wiltink wrote:
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [...]
>
>>My experience with VMWare is limited to VMWare ESX. With ESX all you
>>need to do is to log in as root, edit ntp.conf to include your favorite
>>servers, start ntpd and enjoy.
>
On 2008-03-11, Maarten Wiltink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Steve Kostecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>> There is considerable overlap between an "NTP Client" and an "NTP
>> Server".
>>
>> "NTP Clients" and "NTP Servers" both:
>>
>> 1. Poll time sources (e.g. "NTP Servers", ref-clock
Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>On 2008-03-11, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>>The USD249.99 GPSMAP 60 is a mapping receiver.
>>
>>>The USD74.50 GPS18 LVC is a timing receiver.
>>
>> 68.50
>The exact price is irrelevant.
>The key d
Steve Kostecke wrote:
> FWIW: ntpdc is version specific and it's use has been discouraged on
> more than one occasion.
FWIW: I routinely use ntpdc to add/remove associations ('addserver' and
'unconfig') and to fudge time1 values. It seems to work fine for those
purposes. Before using it, however
On 2008-03-11, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>The key detail here, which you overlooked in your haste, is the price
>>differential between a ~$70 GPS suitable for timing and a ~$250
>>suitable for geocaching.
>
> The key detail which you overlooke
"Steve Kostecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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[...]
> Currently NTP uses port 123/UDP for both the source and destination
> port. What you are proposing would require the use of a different source
> port to work on a single-homed host. This would result in a DOS when
Maarten Wiltink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm no IP wizard, but isn't there a SO_REUSEPORT flag or something
> like that?
It still (IIRC) lacks sufficient ubiquity and the semantics on the
various platforms may not match what is desired.
rick jones
--
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Danny Mayer wrote:
> We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
> makes no sense. This kind of thing belongs in the Support wiki which is
> constantly updated.
You need to supply both. Otherwise the packagers will do it for you and
they will get it wrong.
_
Maarten Wiltink wrote:
>
> This _is_ what I'd call the 'client part'. The server part would
> assume or require that the clock is being disciplined by a client
> implementation.
It needs to share rather more than the clock. Things like:
stratum
root distance
root dispersion
system peer
local r
"David Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Maarten Wiltink wrote:
>> [...] The server part would
>> assume or require that the clock is being disciplined by a client
>> implementation.
>
> It needs to share rather more than the clock. Things like:
>
> stratum
"David Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Danny Mayer wrote:
>> We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
>> makes no sense. This kind of thing belongs in the Support wiki which
>> is constantly updated.
>
> You need to supply both.
David Woolley wrote:
> Danny Mayer wrote:
>
>> We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
>> makes no sense. This kind of thing belongs in the Support wiki which
>> is constantly updated.
>
>
> You need to supply both. Otherwise the packagers will do it for you and
Maarten Wiltink wrote:
> "David Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>Danny Mayer wrote:
>
>
>>>We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
>>>makes no sense. This kind of thing belongs in the Support wiki which
>
> ISTM there are
David L. Mills wrote:
> Danny,
>
> The specific accusation directed to me personally was about the notrust
> bit, which change I described in my previous message. I hadn't noticed
> the L option change, which was not by my hand.
>
Well it might well have been me since I have touched that code
Danny,
Understand. You guys have been wizards with the net interfaces. Real
magic. I haven't heard anybody comment on IGMP and the need to replicate
for the DVMRP spanning tree. Is that done by IGMP without NTP being
involved? If so and multiple endpoints result, Autokey would surely scream.
Y
"Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Maarten Wiltink wrote:
>> "David Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>Danny Mayer wrote:
>>
>>
We supply neither an ntp.conf file nor a startup file so this comment
makes no sense. This kind of th
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