The pride of having something still built in the good ole US of A.
The reduction in pollution caused by shipping the frame all the way
across the Pacific Ocean.
On Jan 22, 8:34 pm, Bob wrote:
> How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry
> from the Waterford edition? Excl
Rivendell has said on several occasions that the quality of the bikes is the
same. The noted that the tubing is a different mix of brands, but also equally
good.
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Subject: [RBW] Toyo ver
Bob,
I've had two Rivendells (non Atlantis) built by Waterford. They were
very well done.
I've had two Rivendell (one an Atlantis) built by Toyo. They were
also very well done.
I have not been able to detect a difference.
Angus
On Jan 22, 10:34 pm, Bob wrote:
> How does the Toyo built Atlan
What classic-looking build, and classic application. That looks like
my kind of outing.
On Jan 22, 11:14 pm, JimD wrote:
> For those who are experiencing winter these will hopefully inspire
> folks to hang on for spring.
> It was very spring like today in Northern Calif.
> I headed up to the e
I can do that - http://tinyurl.com/6b7py6o
(although that now heaves it over to OT, as it is not a Rivendell
bicycle in the photo).
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Jan 23, 12:40 am, rob markwardt wrote:
> Thank you. When in doubt post pictures of your bike or your rides.
>
> http://farm5.static.flic
Very nice. Makes me wish spring were just a bit closer. Oh, and very
beautiful Rivendell. In my opinion, that should be a standard
color.
Ended up with some frostbite on my ride yesterday. Need to think of
warmer times ahead.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Jan 23, 7:11 am, Pondero wrote:
> What
The Sackville Saddlesack trunk qualifies.
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Tone, OT and Stuff Like That
I can do that - http://tinyurl.com/6b7py6o
(although that now heaves it over to OT, as it is not
http://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/2175405244.html
I have no interest in this sale, just forwarding to those who may.
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Next time it's pouring rain on one of my days off I'm gonna do a HB
swap on the Quickbeam from Noodles to Albatross bars.
I also have an MKS pedal that I lost one of the bearings for. I've
picked up a bearing so need to deal with getting it back into the
pedal.
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Mark,
Are you in Missouri??
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I'm about 6'+0.5", pbh about 89cm and have a 64cm quickbeam.
I also have a tourer/winter bike with a 65cm seat tube, and I'm
basically sitting on the TT at stop lights. It's also handy to use
the TT to lower my center of gravity when navigating down certain snow-
covered hills in the wintertime.
Point well taken everybody, sheesh! It's Jim's list and this is how
he wants it. Even a contrairian like me can come to grips with it.
The most pleasing aspect of this whole thing is that during these
long, not-doubt-winter-weather-inspired discussions everyone maintain
a civil tone while being r
There's also Riv Commuters
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendellcommuters/
On Jan 22, 12:49 pm, Marty wrote:
> Wrong subject line the first time - I was editing it and it magically
> was sent!
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I have a 56cm Hillborne and a 58cm A. Homer Hilsen. I have more
standover clearance on the A. Homer Hilsen. The standover height
numbers on the Riv site bear that out. I think a 54 Hilsen might be a
mistake, if the 56 Sam really does fit you. A 54 Hilsen has 650B
wheels, as does a 56 and
I did my first brevet yesterday on my A. Homer Hilsen. It was an
absolutely gorgeous day in Marin. The course went from the southern
tip of the Golden Gate Bridge, across the bridge, through Sausalito,
Larkspur, San Anselmo, over and out to Point Reyes, meandering all the
way out to Point Reyes L
No, I'm a flat lander... I live in Swansea Il.
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We met up with Doug Peterson (from the list) on our way out of town,
but unfortunately he couldn't join us. We headed into an area at the
foot of Doi Suthep (the mountain overshadowing town) that is
absolutely littered with trails. Some extremely rocky, some going
nowhere, others rutted from motocr
on 1/23/11 8:51 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157625888508162/with/53808089
> 05/
Great Ride! Nothing like seeing that GG Bridge Tower at around 195 KM!
Congrats and MAN. what weather!
- Jim "jealous as heck and headin
I'm jealous. I was signed up to ride, but I caught a nasty virus and couldn't
be there. I'll try again in a few weeks when they do another 200k.
--Eric N
On Jan 23, 2011, at 8:51 AM, William wrote:
> I did my first brevet yesterday on my A. Homer Hilsen. It was an
> absolutely gorgeous day i
Congrats on your 1st Brevet! I'm planning one later this year as
well. Perhaps up there in the Bay area.
Looked like fabulous weather too.
~Mike
On Jan 23, 9:49 am, Eric Norris wrote:
> I'm jealous. I was signed up to ride, but I caught a nasty virus and
> couldn't be there. I'll try again in
I must have missed that one, but you didn't get my basic point about there
being no point to dissing.
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:34 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> I do lurve me some ibob conversation, but here's the way they go... don't
> deny it:
>
> Titanium vs. steel --> U.S. vs. off-shore productio
Any Seattle Riv owners plan on riding Chilly Hilly this year? Or non
Seattle Riv owners?
http://shop.cascade.org/content/events/chilly-hilly
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Registration for the 2011 Grizzly Peak Century opened today.
Last year I spent too much time contemplating the ride - registration was
closed when I decided to sign up. So I registered right away this year.
Starting at Island Picnic Area (in Tilden).
Anyone else riding? Anyone else starting from
Yup! Every year. I'm bringing my porteur bike with coffee and
doughnuts for all.
Ryan
On Jan 23, 10:44 am, Benedikt wrote:
> Any Seattle Riv owners plan on riding Chilly Hilly this year? Or non
> Seattle Riv owners?http://shop.cascade.org/content/events/chilly-hilly
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I'll be a "probably" on this one. Will have the copper AHH.
Brian Hanson
On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Benedikt wrote:
> Any Seattle Riv owners plan on riding Chilly Hilly this year? Or non
> Seattle Riv owners?
> http://shop.cascade.org/content/events/chilly-hilly
>
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On Jan 23, 11:14 am, Corwin Zechar wrote:
> Registration for the 2011 Grizzly Peak Century opened today.
>
> Last year I spent too much time contemplating the ride - registration was
> closed when I decided to sign up. So I registered right away this year.
> Starting at Island Picnic Area (in Ti
William, congrats on the brevet. Sounds like a good time. I know that
route and have ridden variations of it multiple times. I hope someday
to make it down there for a brevet with SFR. I hope you'll consider
doing a full Super Randonneur series (200, 300, 400 and 600k). As hard
as it can be I assur
I'll be working that weekend so no chance of making it up there. If I
had the weekend of the Chilly Hilly off I'd be tempted to take the
train up and enjoy a weekend in Seattle. A coworker and I are hoping
to make one of SIR's brevets, possibly their 400k later this spring.
--mike
On Jan 23, 10:4
It's been a l o n g time since I've done it--17 years maybe--but I've been
thinking it'd be a good way to jump start the year in bicycling. Especially if
Ryan's bringing donuts:)
Rob in Seattle
On Jan 23, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Benedikt wrote:
> Any Seattle Riv owners plan on riding Chilly
You folks that ride brevets, never mind a SR just amaze me! I can do a flat
100K if I push myself, but that's about the limit.
Bon route to you all!
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Mike wrote:
> William, congrats on the brevet. Sounds like a good time. I know that
> route and have ridden va
This is a PBP year, and a great time to experience even a bit of the joy of
randonneuring with the folks who will be traveling to France. Check around for
brevets near you!
--Eric N
On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> You folks that ride brevets, never mind a SR just amaze me!
Can't wait.
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As a follow-up to my original blog post, "Tom Ritchey: In His Own
Words," I have now posted Tom's 1982 catalogue to my Rough Riders
blog. As you can see from the Fairfax address on the catalogue (Tom
has always lived on the SF peninsula, not in Marin County), these were
Tom's bikes, as sold by the
I start in Tilden because we live in Albany, have only one car and my
wife works at a church and needs the car.
I could probably find someone to carpool with - but riding up to
Grizzly Peak Boulevard and down to Island Picnic area sounded much
more interesting. Should add back a few hundred feet o
Definitely a possibility, might bring the lady along too, on our 'new
to us' tandem...
Andy
On Jan 23, 10:44 am, Benedikt wrote:
> Any Seattle Riv owners plan on riding Chilly Hilly this year? Or non
> Seattle Riv owners?http://shop.cascade.org/content/events/chilly-hilly
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That Doug will go anywhere to bike tour. Too bad he couldn't ride with
you on his trusty Atlantis.
~Mike
On Jan 23, 9:04 am, Earl Grey wrote:
> We met up with Doug Peterson (from the list) on our way out of town,
> but unfortunately he couldn't join us. We headed into an area at the
> foot of Do
The man does get out and about!!!
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Michael_S wrote:
> That Doug will go anywhere to bike tour. Too bad he couldn't ride with
> you on his trusty Atlantis.
>
> ~Mike
>
> On Jan 23, 9:04 am, Earl Grey wrote:
> > We met up with Doug Peterson (from the list) on our wa
Beautiful pics!! Having fun is what it is all about!
JimP
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:58:28 -0800
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Photos from today's Riv ride, Chiang Mai, Thailand
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The man does get out and about!!!
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at
Really interesting thread but isnt this considered an OT thread?
...sorry, i'm just saying.
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Gernot: thanks for this information and comment which is very useful.
I may just start with Bikram since (unless they've canceled it) the
nearby studio has a first month/as many sessions as you want/$20
offer. This will be a cheap way to get my feet wet.
Even closer is the gymn across the street t
Considering Grant himself took the time to comment, I would say "yes,"
it is on topic.
Got anything else to "just say"?
On Jan 23, 6:11 pm, Rocky B wrote:
> Really interesting thread but isnt this considered an OT thread?
>
> ...sorry, i'm just saying.
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Grant has emphasized the special qualities of the Toyo fork and how
such geometry could not be matched on the Taiwan Sams. So is the
Waterford a match or improvement over the Toyo edition? Also, does
the Waterford Atlantis have the same impressive chainstay geometry and
form of the Toyo? I don't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag99KDfF9Q8
(Translation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1id%C3%ADn_Fheilim%C3%AD)
In Gaelic, please. I think this would be a wonderful RR contest.
BTW, if anyone knows of a site or sites for similar old gaelic songs,
with music, lyrics and translation, I'
I am the last one to comment on this but maybe I can learn something. I was
under the impression that the geometry was mandated by Rivendell period. I
know on the AHH the only differences were things like 2 water bottle cage
mount vs three, a nice paint accent on the fork on one and not on the
I have seen several Waterford and Toyo built Rivs and the only obvious
differences are the things you point out-- braze ons, color
(Waterfords seem lighter/ millky). I would think any variation would
come from the individuals who braze them-- not the factory they were
brazed in.
Cheers!
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Hey - I've been thinking about doing the Chilly Hilly - but...I'm in the DC area, my daughter lives in Seattle and I visit a lot. I don't have a bike in Seattle (yet!) but she has a 'town bike' - some low gears but definitely not in any way similar to my Bleriot (or other bikes). Very upright po
There's one hill that's pretty hard; there are about three that are
not easy but not bad. Come on out. You can ride anything for thirty
miles. People are on all kinds of bikes and if they can't ride up
they walk up!
Ryan
On Jan 23, 8:41 pm, Joan Oppel wrote:
> Hey - I've been thinking about d
Hey Joan,
As I recall from the last time I did it (~17 years ago, several years in a row)
the Chilly Hilly was both chilly and hilly A fair number of long slogs
uphill, the most challenging being Baker Hill, a 300' elevation gain about 20
miles into the ride. But it's the first event of the
I meant to include this link to the route with elevation info:
http://www.bikemap.net/route/390897#lat=47.64064&lng=-122.49516&zoom=12&type=2
Rob
On Jan 23, 2011, at 9:06 PM, rcnute wrote:
> There's one hill that's pretty hard; there are about three that are
> not easy but not bad. Come on ou
I just registered. I will be starting from the Island Picnic Area as
well. I will be on my Orange Sam. I would love to ride with a group.
Peter
On Jan 23, 11:14 am, Corwin Zechar wrote:
> Registration for the 2011 Grizzly Peak Century opened today.
>
> Last year I spent too much time contemplati
Rode to Portola Valley - totally like spring.
Got a tuna sandwich at Roberts. Had lunch at Arastradero Preserve.
enjoy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/
Weather karma will get us eventually.
-JimD
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Well, I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of
Toyo's fork curve being a home run while the curve done by Taiwan is a solid
double.
Puts the Taiwan product in a more positive light, which it deserves. (New
Hillborne owner talking here!) We're talking about diff
I just registered as well. As this is 2 weeks before my Oregon Bike
Touring course, I'll use it as my longest ride before tapering down.
Don't know if I'll be able to do the whole ride or just the 72 mile
loop, but I'll try. Most likely will be riding my Homer, unless those
who know best maintain t
Not necessarily so. A few years ago I was talking to a retired Sandia
Labs employee who used to bicycle to the base back in the 1970s. He
remarked how many motorists exhibited bad feeling toward cyclists
that, today, with so many more on the road here in Albuquerque, you
don't see as often. I think
OK now A) Do people want to ride together? and B) What ferry does
everyone plan on taking?
On Jan 23, 10:44 am, Benedikt wrote:
> Any Seattle Riv owners plan on riding Chilly Hilly this year? Or non
> Seattle Riv owners?http://shop.cascade.org/content/events/chilly-hilly
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Join us! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sa_OQgWiPA
There's a guy that rides this every year on a unicycle! If you come
out and do this I'll ride over from West Seattle to the ferry dock
with you. Add about 11 more miles to the ride for that.
On Jan 23, 8:41 pm, Joan Oppel wrote:
> Hey - I've
>From what I read somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong) this last line of
Sam's, including mine, ALL have Taiwanese forks, even the Waterfords.
Fame was made at Waterford, fork Taiwan. Whatever, I love it.
Now I've side tracked the subject from Atlantis to Sam & from Toyo to
Taiwan.
On Jan 23, 9:4
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