Re: [RBW] Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite

2013-09-06 Thread jimD
+1 having lived there for ~15 years prior to moving to Calif. I can testify that this is true. -JimD On Sep 6, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Parts of New Mexico operate outside the time-space-cultural continuum, > causing ripple anomilies among matter and energy that achieve escape

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread William
My biggest and most consistent violations are #33 and (obviously) #43 On Friday, September 6, 2013 5:41:52 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: > > Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get > out there and work on them. > > Now, how to attach a mirror... > Eric Platt > St. Pau

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Jay B
I'll second Eric's suggestions. Lots of folks use home brew bikepacking setups. Try lashing the sleeping bag in a stuffsack to the saddle rails and seatpost. Lash the tent in its stuff sack to the underside of the handlebars. Redistributing just some of the weight/volume from the backpack t

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Eric Platt
Rats. Looks like there are one or two I haven't broken yet. Need to get out there and work on them. Now, how to attach a mirror... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Scott Henry wrote: > The only one that matters is Rule #5. Next time I'm in the shop getting > some tatt

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Eric Platt
Might want to have your friend check out the bikepacking site - http://www.bikepacking.net/ Haven't checked it recently, but there were a number of folks who did multiple day trips with a backpack. Your friend might think about strapping the tent (if used) and/or sleeping bag (if used) to the han

[RBW] Re: Lifetime of Tange Bottom Bracket

2013-09-06 Thread Mojo
I don't know yet I have a 2001 Custom with a Tange BB (or is it Shimano?... no matter they're the same), with unknown but many miles on it (rough estimate 35,000-50,000 miles). It is a fair day bike but has been caught in several drenching thunderstorms. Anyway the BB is still running smoot

Re: [RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite

2013-09-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Yeah, we don't have no stinkin' space time continuum here in NM. Seriously, folks, my photos appeared upright on my copy and (earlier ones) on the boblist. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Parts of New Mexico operate outside the time-space-cultural continuum, > causing r

[RBW] Re: FS: XO-1, Bleriot

2013-09-06 Thread Ryan
Hope you find a good home for the X0-1. Let's not forget that these bikes were the fore-runners of Rivendell's versatile and elegant designs. As lovely as the Rivendells are, there's something I still find very aesthetically pleasing about the clean, simple lines of those X0-1's with their unde

Re: [RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Parts of New Mexico operate outside the time-space-cultural continuum, causing ripple anomilies among matter and energy that achieve escape veloscity through the wormhole. They call this phenomenon "enchantment." Hence the moniker "New Mexico: Land of Enchantment." With abandon, Patrick On Fri

Re: [RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite

2013-09-06 Thread Tom Harrop
I always thought the problem with Patrick's photos was the electrons getting flipped as they crossed the equator to reach me in Australia, but I'm perplexed to report that the upsidedownedness persists even here in Europe... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite

2013-09-06 Thread Patrick Moore
I think your screen is upside down. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:35 PM, William wrote: > Patrick > > Nice work. It's my amateur opinion that your Rack and your saddle would > work even *better *for you if you ran them RIGHT SIDE UP! > > It's like on Mythbusters: "Well *there's *your problem!" > >

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread William
There is only one tip to give: Meditate on Rule #5 On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:51:13 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > A friend of mine (I know, hard to believe I'd have any, but there's one > born every minute!) is pondering joining me for a two night ramble on Pikes > Peak starting Mo

[RBW] Re: Rack under load; Toplight mounted; Re-covered Flite

2013-09-06 Thread William
Patrick Nice work. It's my amateur opinion that your Rack and your saddle would work even *better *for you if you ran them RIGHT SIDE UP! It's like on Mythbusters: "Well *there's *your problem!" On Friday, September 6, 2013 2:52:44 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I finally tested the new c

[RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread Edwin W
When you are in low supply, low demand land pricing is tricky at best. I am trying to sell my box bike in Nashville for $1500. It is the only one in town, you can't get one here for less than $3k, but the market is teeny tiny. I know there are 4-5 families within a couple of hundred miles who wo

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
no offense Garth, but he's talking about Pike's Peak. On Friday, September 6, 2013 2:55:29 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > > Yes entirely doable. As a teen a friend of mine and his father would > ride across Wisconsin from Minnesota some 350 miles each way with only a > backpack. Tips ? None.

[RBW] Re: Celebrity Riv Sighting

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Would you really want to enter a hot springs named Mono? Seems risky. Grin. WIth abandon, Patrick On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:56:42 AM UTC-6, Mike Schiller wrote: > > So Andrew, slightly off topic, but what do you think of the road to > Florence lake for cycling? I've driven it a few times

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Christopher Chen
It won't be *impossible*, and he'll probably have fun doing it, but I'm sure next time, he'll be shopping for a rack when he gets home. (memories of climbing up Seattle streets wearing an external frame backpack on a Cannondale R400...clipped in!) On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Deacon Patrick

[RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread Jim
Hi Kelly: If it makes you feel any better, i've stared at your FS posts for that bike. Like Tom, I'm a 100 PBH. Like you, I have an AHH, and that bike does just about everything I need, and can't envision why I would add another bike at this point. I have a spot for it in the garage, curren

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread BSWP
Let's assume he has a lightweight internal frame pack, or an ultralight frameless pack. Either way, he'll wantt the weight both low down, and also close in to his body. The closer to his back, the less leverage the gear will have when he swings side-to-side. It will be especially important that

[RBW] Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread Kelly
So this is subjective and my opinion and thoughts. or questioning thoughts... I recently attempted half heartedly to sell a couple of bikes. Only posted here and being 68cm I figured that since I was asking a fair to me but not great deal on price it was a long shot on selling. Then I

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yeah, I plan on riding behind him, mostly for entertainment value, but also so I don't have to backtrack to render aid. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:58:44 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > 25-lb pack? 35? I haven't tried it, but I would be worried about the > inertia

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Garth
Yes entirely doable. As a teen a friend of mine and his father would ride across Wisconsin from Minnesota some 350 miles each way with only a backpack. Tips ? None. Either you have the desire , or you don't ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread Joe Bunik
http://slowbike.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/the-bicycle-riddle/ On 9/6/13, Tom Harrop wrote: > Kelly, > > I wondered what you'd done with your 68 cm Atlantis. If I had one of those > I certainly wouldn't be selling it! I would leave the Bomba built up as the > > touring/commuting bike it is now and

[RBW] Re: Lifetime of Tange Bottom Bracket

2013-09-06 Thread Mojo
Oops, for accuracy sake and to not exagerate, my Salsa is a 2006 model. On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:11:45 AM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: > I don't know yet I have a 2001 Custom with a Tange BB (or is it > Shimano?... no matter they're the same), with unknown but many miles on it > (rough estimat

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
25-lb pack? 35? I haven't tried it, but I would be worried about the inertia affecting balance when you need it most On Friday, September 6, 2013 12:51:13 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > A friend of mine (I know, hard to believe I'd have any, but there's one > born every minute!) is ponder

[RBW] chain compatibility ?

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
If you're using a 9- speed chain and friction shifting, can you also use a Campy 10-speed derailleur, or are passages in the cage too small for the chain? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gr

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Scott Henry
The only one that matters is Rule #5. Next time I'm in the shop getting some tattoo work done, I'm seriously considering adding it. Long live the Velominati Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > In our house we only have one

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
shoes, Deac. On Friday, September 6, 2013 12:43:08 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > ...then they see I'm barefoot on smooth wood platform pedals and they > usually go speechless. ... > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Celebrity Riv Sighting

2013-09-06 Thread Mike Schiller
So Andrew, slightly off topic, but what do you think of the road to Florence lake for cycling? I've driven it a few times and the section past Huntington Lake seems like the ultimate road for a summer bike camping trip on a country bike. Maybe looping over to Edison and around the back of Hunt

[RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread Tom Harrop
Kelly, I wondered what you'd done with your 68 cm Atlantis. If I had one of those I certainly wouldn't be selling it! I would leave the Bomba built up as the touring/commuting bike it is now and the Atlantis would be a dedicated mountain bike. (In other words, you could/should keep both...) It

[RBW] Re: Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread shawn
Patrick, I haven't tried bikepaking with backpack, but when I was in the military we skied with very heavy backpacks and it was so very important to back the heavy items down low. So I think your "back heavy bits down low" is very sound advice. On Friday, September 6, 2013 1:51:13 PM UTC-4, De

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't follow, Ron. What are these shoes of which you speak? Some new tech? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:56:10 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > shoes, Deac. > > On Friday, September 6, 2013 12:43:08 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: >> >> ...then they see I'm barefoot

[RBW] Tips for Bikepacking with a backpack?

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
A friend of mine (I know, hard to believe I'd have any, but there's one born every minute!) is pondering joining me for a two night ramble on Pikes Peak starting Monday. His bike isn't set up with a rack and he has no panniers, so he'll be wearing his backpack. Anyone done this? Tips? The whole

[RBW] Re: Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread William
Kelly, I'll give these thoughts: 1. Somebody who wants to buy a used bike accepts that it will look used, but it will be a lot less expensive. For that reason, your repaint has extremely little value to your buyer. Most of the value in a repaint is that you got to pick the color. Once you'

Re: [RBW] Re: Celebrity Riv Sighting

2013-09-06 Thread Steven Frederick
Wonder if that pack was a product of the Backpacking catalog/company that inspired RBW's name? On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM, BSWP wrote: > Well, it wasn't like sighting Manny, but I was off backpacking last week, > out of Florence Lake, and wearing my new blue-pocket MUSA shorts. Trudging >

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
I don't "rip" through anything (without brain injury, I might, but I ride fairly conservatively), but from what I've seen, I ride my fendered Hunqapillar the way you ride your Niner -- riding everything the full suspension folks ride. They look at me in stunned amazement that such trail can be

[RBW] Used Bike Pricing - General - Mindless.. Dribble

2013-09-06 Thread Johnny Alien
IMO unless it is in mint shape with less than 100 miles on it then I look to pay or sell for an average of 50% off of the new price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Steven Frederick
I'm not sure that it does--wasn't the Atlantis always meant as a loaded tourer? The XO was more of an all 'rounder. I own an XO and it certainly is not tourer, and I recall Grant writing about being rather alarmed by a fellow touring with a "flexy" XO who stopped by Riv. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Or maybe the Bomba is just a 'premium Hunqa' ??? I know I often harp on how Grant characterizes the Bomba as a mountain bike, but maybe I've overlooked the true significance of the Bomba and Hunqa in mountain biking history. I love what Grant has created in the the Bomba and Hunqa; in my opini

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
In our house we only have one rule and everyone is responsible for following it and helping others follow it. "Uphold Right Relationship." Seems to me it works for everything. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Tom Goodmann
+1 on that point, Ron: I always feel like a happy kid again on a bike, every single time. And I am never happier than when on a stream with family and friends, or alone, as well. Rules? Fun to make; fun to break among aficionados of various spots and stripes. As I think has been said on this foru

[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
Sorry to maintain this fly fishing and bicycling analogy, but it is apropos. HG Wells said, *"Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race." * Contagion is the key. If you're a contagious bicyclist, or a contagious fly fisherman, it's because yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Mc
Didn't Bicycling magazine call Grant the missing link? Oh, no, never mind - it was Retrogrouch. On Friday, September 6, 2013 4:30:47 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: > > AFAIK, The RBW Atlantis is really "Atlantis 2" There was a Bridgestone > Atlantis, but that was a different bike. The Atlantis

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread Bruce Herbitter
AFAIK, The RBW Atlantis is really "Atlantis 2" There was a Bridgestone Atlantis, but that was a different bike. The Atlantis 2 comes out of the XO-1 lineage. Bombadil is another go at a mountain bike and Hunquapillar is an economy model Bombadil. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Deacon Patrick w

[RBW] Re: Riv Bike Evolutionary Succession

2013-09-06 Thread IanA
Most interesting. I have a '98 LongLow that has the canti bosses, but can accept long reach side pulls as well. It has Tektro CR720 cantis on it and with a nice wide fender, pretty sure I could squeeze actual 37mm tires under there (might be too close for comfort). Certainly actual 35mm tires