[RBW] Re: Crankin' through the snow...

2016-02-02 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Yeah! That's the way to do it, Patrick. I took my kids to the local school park when there was a dusting of snow. Sleigh rides by mammoth are the best. https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/24204812649/in/datetaken/ shoji On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 2:13:31 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread Daniel Jackson
WOW. Huge difference that I did not anticipate. Thanks for sharing this as well. On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 12:05:35 PM UTC-5, Casey McMann wrote: > > > > Quick snap to show you. Excuse

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread Ryan Fleming
Hi Casey...welcome to the group and thanks for posting! May I ask what shifters and brake levers you're using (and what bike you're running them on)? One of the shifters looks like a sun race not sure about the other one Thinking of the Chocos for my upcoming mixte and was thinking of the

[RBW] Re: Crankin' through the snow...

2016-02-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Dave, Sweet! Shoji, mammoths are a great way to pull a sleigh! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 12:37:31 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Yeah! That's the way to do it, Patrick. > > I took my kids to the local school park when there was a dusting of snow. > Sleigh

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Jim D Massachusetts
Kai I want to see a picture of that monster Clem. Jim (clem lover) D.In Massachusetts On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 5:16:56 PM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote: > > I'm with Bill. I find the clicks slightly annoying, but all in all it's > been a great

[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
I presume goodness from Rivendell. I rode my 58cm Atlantis today and brought my tape measure just for fun. I double checked the (level) top tube length, and it's 585mm, just like the chart says. Daniel said: "I'm hoping to use my Hunq as one of a few data points for an upcoming custom,

[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: Mother-in-Law

2016-02-02 Thread Cecily Walker
Oh wow. Such a nice bike! Congrats to her! On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 8:47:31 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote: > > My mother-in-law got excited over my husband's new bike. New bike envy? > She plunked down her money and got one of John's Clementines. Then she > ordered a zillion accoutrements and

[RBW] Re: Crankin' through the snow...

2016-02-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here's today's adventure... hauling a hundred pounds of kid uphill to the sledding hill. The roads were snowpacked the whole way, so no need to carry the sled. https://medium.com/@DeaconPatrick/the-horse-and-the-sled-582c6ec12558#.yu4pveh7k With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Riv bike packing documentary

2016-02-02 Thread Ryan Fleming
totally agree On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 11:45:08 AM UTC-6, Shawn Granton wrote: > > > On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 7:22:01 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: >> >> Same here Deacon, I got all jazzed up for a second thinking there was a >> new Riv bikepacking video! >> > > Well Mark, I think

[RBW] Re: Choco bars buyable right now!

2016-02-02 Thread masmojo
I have been interested in the Choco, but I am currently riding the wide Bosco's on my Clementine, I tried another Clementine RTR, it had the narrower Bosco's and I did not like it nearly as much! While I like'em 58 maybe is a little wide, but 54 is too narrow. 55 is better, but 56 might be

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread El Sapo
Hey Bill, just for my own clarification, these Clem shifters have "click" indexed stops. My understating of friction shifters is that they are without the indexing click stops. So what happens is that the shifter wants to find the click, the index point and rest there. But that's not the

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Kainalu
Me too! All's I know is it likely won't have a second top tube, and it'll be painted a green of some sort. Hopefully I don't know until I open the box in May/June/July/ish. Surprise is usually often occasionally happy, right? -Kai Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
El Sapo wrote: *"I can't figure out why Riv went this way? Can you?"* I suspect because A. they are ergonomically pretty sweet the way Riv has 'em set up--they have that little dog leg that makes it work without really having to move your hand from the grip one bit, just wiggle that thumb.B.

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
El Sapo I have one Sun Race shifter here on my desk. I have them installed on two bikes and I have an extra pair from my parts box. Since I anticipated there might be some of the dissatisfied who would assert "these are not friction shifters", I decided to bring one to work with me. In

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Eric Yes, Clem shifters are different from those. They actively click in the pull-the-cable direction, and I wouldn't call it soft. Each click is quite a bit smaller than an indexed shifter and a lot larger (coarser) than a power ratchet shifter. The materials and durability of the Clem

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I bought two sets of the "cheap" shifters from Riv and they convinced me to go back to indexed shifting. The rear would ghost shift on a regular basis. Very annoying and not something I'll put up with. If indexing means I have to pay to get it readjusted (I am completely incapable of doing

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
Are the Clem shifters different than these? http://www.amazon.com/Sunrace-SLM10-Friction-Shifter-Set/dp/B007QMJH86/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1454457129=8-1=sunrace+shifter I have a pair of these, and they have a power ratchet type action. Very nice to use with friction shifting. But it sounds like the

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
I believe these one-at-a-time shifters arrived when GP was leaning towards complete builds without a fd, thus the need for one shifter without breaking up Silver or Shimano sets. Once that train got rollin' down the track... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread drew
Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Choco bars buyable right now!

2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
" I have Alba's in aluminum & chromo & honestly I prefer the chromo ones!" What do you prefer about the chromo (sic) Albatross over the aluminum Albatross? Do you prefer that they are less expensive? Do you prefer the looks? Something else? I've got cromoly Albatross bars on one bike and

Re: [RBW] old brake lever/thumb shifter clamp request WTB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Ooh, those stem shifters are purty. I have an old Simplex set I bought just 'cause I liked them. 2 years later they still haven't made it to a bike. Oops! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

2016-02-02 Thread Chad
FYI, the effective top tube on the 52 Bomba was listed correctly on the old geo chart. Mine had a 56.5-57 actual TT and a 58-58.5 effective TT. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] old brake lever/thumb shifter clamp request WTB

2016-02-02 Thread drew
ok, i bought some suntour power thumb shifters off ebay and after trying to get one to stay on the bar tight, i noticed that the band had broken (see photo). its the old kind of attachment where the square thing fits into holes on the band and then there is a bolt that goes thru and tightens

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just to clarify one user's perspective--I have lots of experience with non-STI shifters: ratcheting shifters, smooth shifters, thumb shifters, Positron shifters, indexed, non-indexed. I toured Tuscany with bar ends hooked up to a ten-speed cassette no problem. When I had a motor vehicle, it

Re: [RBW] old brake lever/thumb shifter clamp request WTB

2016-02-02 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yes on all points. Campy of the mid 80s taught a lot of us to overshift + release. And yes, it's a course ratchet. On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 7:36:22 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 02/02/2016 06:06 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > So, when I pull the cable I do as many clicks

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Mark Without question, if you position your derailer perfectly with your shifters and then just ride down the road and your derailer after a while moves itself because your shifter allows it to move with insufficient friction, that's unacceptable. The other posters on this thread who don't

Re: [RBW] old brake lever/thumb shifter clamp request WTB

2016-02-02 Thread drew
I'm aware, but I have road and mtb bars I wouldn't mind putting them on. Thought I'd see if anyone has any in any size to make it easier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread Philip Kim
Thanks for the pick. Does the Chocos sweep back more towards the rider than the albatross? Hard to tell, I wish Riv posted backsweep angles. On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 9:00:31 PM UTC-5, Casey McMann wrote: > > New to the group. Just wanted to show everyone the difference between > these two

RE: [RBW] Choco bars buyable right now!

2016-02-02 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
Ordered Normal, with a Dirt Drop stem and shim. Couldn't resist. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:11 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Choco bars buyable right now!

[RBW] Re: Choco bars buyable right now!

2016-02-02 Thread Jeremy Till
I've been curious to see what the width would be like. 55cm is certainly generous, along the lines of the Albatross, but my tastes have been trending towards the crazy wide these days, so I think I'll hold off for now. If they come out with a 58cm version or better yet a 60+cm one, I might

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread Casey McMann
Quick snap to show you. Excuse the hand. On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 11:37:38 AM UTC-5, drew wrote: > > thanks. this is good to see. ill second the request that, if possible, an >

Re: [RBW] Crankin' through the snow...

2016-02-02 Thread nawrock
We got at least 2 feet of snow up here in Ft. Collins! Dave Nawrocki - Original Message - From: "Deacon Patrick" To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 11:21:55 AM Subject: [RBW] Crankin' through the snow...

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread Casey McMann
They definitely flare out less. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

2016-02-02 Thread drew
thanks. this is good to see. ill second the request that, if possible, an albastache comparison would be cool. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: FS: soon-to-be-spring cleaning

2016-02-02 Thread Chad
I'm still interested, but had some questions that I sent you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

2016-02-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Excellent. Thank you, Jeff. I measured my 62 incorrectly. I went level from the center of the headtube/top tube intersection back to the seat post, which easily adds 2cm. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 7:53:50 PM UTC-7, Jeff Bogdanovich wrote: > > Riv posted detailed

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/02/2016 06:06 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: So, when I pull the cable I do as many clicks it takes to make it shift, and if it overshifted some I trim it back. Many people like me grew up shifting bicycles back when *every shift (every single shift) in the pull the cable direction required

[RBW] FS: four Arkel panniers

2016-02-02 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Arkel panniers Hi, all. For sale is a set of Arkel panniers, purchased between 7-8 years ago. The set comprises two T-28 "front" panniers and two T-42 rear panniers. All four panniers are black. All are in great shape. Pictures are here: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0NGPCdxkGOtsxq

[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

2016-02-02 Thread Chad
Dang, I really wish they would have posted that info earlier. I sold my 52 Bomba because they said it had the same effective TT as the 54 Hunqa and was really too big for me, even though I thought the TT length felt fine and standover was really not an issue. I was going to order a 48 Hunq,

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread David Banzer
Like Bill, I'll certainly buy a couple pairs if folks aren't digging them. I have one on my Clem that is shifting an Ultegra long-cage rear derailleur and an 8-speed custom cassette (which probably should have more problems shifting than a standard cassette). I've not experienced any issues at

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Tim Wood
Bill, I think you're bang on with your analysis and description, thanks for breaking it down and examining/explaining the shifter. I'm not upset at Riv for sourcing this part, its just less then ideal and the nuances of the shifter in this application make it difficult to live with. This is

[RBW] Re: Hunq Effective TT

2016-02-02 Thread Jeff Bogdanovich
Riv posted detailed Hunq geometry here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hunqapillar.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/02/2016 09:14 PM, Tim Wood wrote: Now this may offend some, and call me new school, but I don't really understand the benefit of friction shifting in the rear. What is the point of being able to trim the rear derailer? it's either in line or not in line and when it's not in line it runs

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Zed Martinez
I like friction rear shifting because on modern hyperglide style cassettes it's a lot easier to just skim across gears to the one I want out of the stack, instead of having to click 3 or 4 times after every stop over the course of just a few seconds. On my albastaches, I also like how it

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
I don't suppose there's any chance you have a stiff, binding chain link, is there? 3-4 crank revs is about what it takes to get a link back to the exact same place. On 02/02/2016 06:06 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: I rode the bike to work and back today (been taking the

[RBW] Re: Choco bars buyable right now!

2016-02-02 Thread Matthew J
Not sure if it is the photo or these are just shiny. Would like to see a dull bright version if the latter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email