[RBW] Re: Jan's Appaloosa

2016-05-11 Thread Hugh Smitham
Brian, Saw your Flickr feed. So sweet. You always have such great builds. I'm sure she'll love every pedal stroke. Cheers, ~Hugh On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:00:18 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: > > Pics of the build for my wife's new Appaloosa. Tape in honor of the late > Prince. > > https:/

[RBW] Jan's Appaloosa

2016-05-11 Thread Brian Hanson
Pics of the build for my wife's new Appaloosa. Tape in honor of the late Prince. https://flic.kr/s/aHskzHMauB Brian Hanson Seattle, WA Bike Blog @stonehog stonehogboɥǝuoʇs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread sameness
Crank Brothers multi-tool, spare tube, coupla tire levers, Presta to Schrader adapter, about three bucks in a coin purse, and a clip-on rear blinkie. I never find myself too far from civilization. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Lynne Fitz
Rando bike: Topeak rachet rocket (I can almost take my entire bike apart with it), 5mm hex wrench to hold the Topeak chain tool, S&S wrench. Love that rachet rocket. I hate multitools, because they are too bulky in the wrong places. 2 tubes. 1 patch kit. tire levers. Lezyne tire pump (my trea

[RBW] Re: FS: Wheel Set, Rich built from Rivendell, 105 hubs, 126mm spacing

2016-05-11 Thread boomer
Sold! On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 5:05:14 PM UTC-7, boomer wrote: > > Purchased new from Rivendell a few years ago and used for about 50 miles > and sat around the garage. Never abused or dented. True and spins free. > Mavic Open Pro. 32 count, DT spokes. Original Shimano skewers included. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
Soapy water and very hi pressure worked very well. Michael On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 6:39:48 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote: > > Michael, > > I'm looking forward to trying your mechanic's soapy water trick when > school's out. How did it work out for you? I'm curious because the last > time I

Re: [RBW] Re: Trimming a Fender

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
Do you have a front rack? Here is what I did with Honjos and my front rack -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread Shawn Granton
Note about Babyshoe Pass, Forest Road 23, which traverses the pass, will be CLOSED this year, at least on the north side. http://www.columbian.com/news/2016/may/08/gifford-pinchot-forest-road-no-23-wont-open-in-2016/ -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

2016-05-11 Thread Brian Campbell
I have the VO's on my Hilsen, which replaced a narrower set of Honjo's. I did think the Honjos seemed to be higher quality(subjective) and they seemed to be easier to install. One thing I would reccomend with either is using the Berthoud stays to mount them. I think they work better and they ar

[RBW] Brooks Saddle Found

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Norris
I have found a B-17. Thanks to everyone who responded. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com @Campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
VO kits for both Honjo and VO (Tanaka) come pre-drilled. The first set I installed were 36mm Honjos that VO was closing out for $65, limited to 28mm tires. After doing it once, the second set I installed, I preferred going the Jitensha route of fenders with no pre-drilling so I could put all

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

2016-05-11 Thread Frank Brose
I have VO's on my Rawland and don't have a problem with them. I wouldn't hesitate to buy anothe pair. On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 6:21:06 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: > > Which is better, and why? Diffs? > > I have Honjos (~150$) on my Bleriot, but 150$ is a lot of money, compared > to ~67$ for

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
Honjos are thinner making them somewhat lighter. VO fenders are made by Tanaka. I'd say they're all good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

2016-05-11 Thread Lungimsam
Which is better, and why? Diffs? I have Honjos (~150$) on my Bleriot, but 150$ is a lot of money, compared to ~67$ for VO's, if I ever want to replace the SKS on my Sam with metal fenders. I have seen a famous blogger (not Grant) sort of, but not so obviously, refer to VO stuff as "budget", b

Re: [RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

2016-05-11 Thread Patrick Kelly
It's the wider one, 710. It's wide. Really wide. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > Is your Jones bar the 660 or the 710? > > On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: >> >> I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

2016-05-11 Thread Surlyprof
Michael, I'm looking forward to trying your mechanic's soapy water trick when school's out. How did it work out for you? I'm curious because the last time I mounted my Barlow Pass tires on my Synergies I got to "enjoy" some extra quality time with the bike stand before getting them right. Lo

[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, double top tube, $1450

2016-05-11 Thread Brencho
i wish i was a little bit taller, i wish i was a baller, I wish I had a girl who looked good, i would call her, something something. remember that song? sick bike mike! you're gonna make some tall fella's dream come true. On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:44:31 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrot

Re: [RBW] Seven year itch to redecorate

2016-05-11 Thread Julian
Steve, Grand green bike! How does the paint on the S&S couplers hold up to the use of the tool in assembly/disassembly? Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:32:46 PM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote: > > Michael, the green on green grass looks very nice, glad it wor

[RBW] Re: Seven year itch to redecorate

2016-05-11 Thread Julian
Michael, That looks great! I like the color, and the bike (of course, as a fellow Bilenky tandem captain, I'm biased). :) Julian Westerhout Bloomington, IL

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

2016-05-11 Thread Mike in WA
Here's a link on going "ghetto tubeless" using an old BMX tube and gorilla tape. I'm not sure how this approach would work on a narrower rim, but it seems the idea is that you want to built the bead seat up. If it was me I think I would ju

Re: [RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread John Speare
her'es some maps and pics and stuff from when I did this with friends nearly 10 (omg!) years ago. http://alexwetmore.org/archives/487.html On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:22:37 AM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: > > Mike, > > Thanks for the ideas. Will be in Portland at the end of June and looking > to

[RBW] Re: Riv's love child - new build

2016-05-11 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Yes, just flipped Albas with pursuit/inverse levers instead of standard levers. Gives a little more aggressive position. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
walking 9 miles with a bike is also how to spoil a good ride (I actually didn't list everything I carry, I was mostly addressing the small tools question and didn't get into chains and flats) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
it's just the whole gruppo thing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send e

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

2016-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/11/2016 04:42 PM, Ron Mc wrote: it was a good article right up to the, /unfortunately, SRAM and Campagnolo don't make long-reach brakes/ Wouldn't it be a good thing if they did? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T

[RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
it was a good article right up to the, *unfortunately, SRAM and Campagnolo don't make long-reach brakes* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw

[RBW] Re: my joe appaloosa setup

2016-05-11 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Is your Jones bar the 660 or the 710? On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 4:35:31 AM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote: > > I've put together an album with a lot of tedious details about how I've > configured my joe appaloosa, including: > > * surly front rack > * jones loop h-bar > * interesting rear light mou

[RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
The magazine has done a few interesting things in the last year or two along those viens. Remember when Benedict Wheeler was on the cover, doing a skid on his basket bike and 2" slicks, panniers, flat pedals, etc? And I think there's been some coverage of a few other expeditionary rides from th

[RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

2016-05-11 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I am a long time subscriber to that magazine and I find as my riding has evolved/changed to a more Rivendell styled experience, I just leaf through the magazine and recycle it within a day. The test bikes are almost all road/race bikes and nothing much there for me to sink my teeth in to. I g

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Jim M.
I'm with you, Mark. If underbiking is a thing, then I think undertooling could be a category too. How do you spoil a good walk? Have all the tools you need to fix something. happy trails jim m wc ca On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 12:38:41 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Wow, you guys carry a LO

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Wow, you guys carry a LOT of tools with you!! Not saying it's a bad thing or anything, just surprised! I have a Tracko/Yanco ramblin roll, which is a little roll-up pouch about the size of an apple. Inside I have a Crank Bros cycling multitool, a patch kit, two tire levers, spare master link an

[RBW] Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

2016-05-11 Thread Paul G
Most, if not all, of us who visit this group know that one of Grant Petersen's primary bicycle frame design goals is maximizing tire clearance to allow a rider the option for wider tires than typical production bicycles can fit. He has clearly explained this in multiple Reader issues as well on

[RBW] Re: Riv's love child - new build

2016-05-11 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
So for us slow learners - that is an albatross bar just flipped? It looks so different in the photo. H may have to try that on my San Marco. On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:01:34 PM UTC-4, se...@austin.utexas.edu wrote: > > Finally got my new San Marcos built up. Velocity Atlas, Suzue Classica,

[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis, double top tube, $1450

2016-05-11 Thread Michael Williams
hey group, Up for sale is a 64cm Atlantis, 2 top tubes, ~ 18months young! The bike is just a bit too big. Asking $1450 for frame/ fork. Buyer pays for packing/ shipping. If at all interested, message me off list please! Thanks! -Mike -- You received this message because you are s

Re: [RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Mike, Thanks for the ideas. Will be in Portland at the end of June and looking to spend several days riding in Gifford NF. Curtis On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Leaf Slayer wrote: > Look for Babyshoe Pass. I can't remember what road it's on but there's a > long stretch of that on both side

[RBW] Re: WTT: Albastache for 58cm Bosco

2016-05-11 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Me! I've got an extra set of used Boscos (with shellac'ed cloth tape on the grabby parts). Switched out to Jones Bars on my LHT. Sean ATX > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread Leaf Slayer
Look for Babyshoe Pass. I can't remember what road it's on but there's a long stretch of that on both sides of the summit that is gravel and it can take you towards Packwood. Are you coming up here this summer? I'm going to be touring at the end of June for 5 days, possibly in the Malhuer NF b

Re: [RBW] Pitfalls of relying on technology

2016-05-11 Thread Patrick Moore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dI-WZ5cvM0 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > This may be helpful for anyone riding a random urine event. Grin. > http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2015-05-12/ > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.OurHolyConception.org > www.MindYourHeadCoop.org >

[RBW] Pitfalls of relying on technology

2016-05-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
This may be helpful for anyone riding a random urine event. Grin. http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2015-05-12/ With abandon, Patrick www.OurHolyConception.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscr

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
Mark, adding to the CX70 FD info, it's "10-speed" and the cage is shaped for a "small big" ring - max ring size is 46T -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Christopher Wiggins
That's what I would do. At least at my house, it would go un noticed. ;) On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:46:46 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Christopher, I actually did that as well! Though with the shimano pods. I > had to file that little washer thing a bit, but my wife's Cross Check now

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Christopher, I actually did that as well! Though with the shimano pods. I had to file that little washer thing a bit, but my wife's Cross Check now has the most gorgeous bar end shifters ever. i'm actually thinking of buying new 10 spd bar ends and putting them on her bike, then stealing the ones l

[RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Christopher Wiggins
If you've got some parts lying around something like this may be possible. I managed to make this work with a combination of Shimano and Silver pod parts. I think it was a Zen moment. Hard to say if I could recreate it or not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
My set-up is 3 x 7, and I'm running 8-sp chain. On my Ultegra CX-70 FD (which is the new 600 EX) I'm running a 2x9 with a 9sp Wippermann chain and it's a delight - I can run the full width rear without adjusting the FD. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike, It doesn't need to be today but I'll message you on FB. I like the Hinterlands route from bike portland, but the question is are there decent gravel (NF roads) after Panther Creek Falls via NF 6060 (Carson Guler Rd/Hollis Creek Rd) to Wind River Hwy North up to Packwood? ~Hugh “Life is li

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Ok now we're talking! Great suggestion Patrick, I love that you hacked it a bit to make it work. That's true commitment to having interesting derailleurs! On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > My Dura Ace 7410 handles the 44-to 22-tooth jump competently -- only, > because of t

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Cool, thanks Ron! The 600EX is a very handsome derailleur. What speed of chain were you using with it? I was having a lot of difficulty preventing my chain from dropping with the very wide cage of the 5 and 6 speed derailleurs. It seemed to just fly right off most of the time. On Wed, May 11, 2016

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Patrick Moore
My Dura Ace 7410 handles the 44-to 22-tooth jump competently -- only, because of the distance to the outer ring on the mtb crankset, I had to file off the outer limit stop tab. But, having done so, it works fine, tho' this may shorten the life of the spring. Oh, and I have to be careful to use the

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
I've never liked Suntour FD and still consider my 600EX Arabesque the best FD I've ever used (and still use it) - it makes 26T to 42T jump I'm asking of it with aplomb. Ultegra CX-70 FD is available either top pull or bottom pull http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-ultegra-cx70

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Is that a top-pull only? I'm going to need one that pulls from the bottom. I'm currently using an ultegra derailleur that works pretty well. It's not terribly interesting, but it works a WHOLE lot better than the Suntour Cyclone 5-speed derailleur I had on before haha. So many dropped chains. On W

[RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
Also don't know about interesting, but Ultegra CX-70 FD will handle the front ring jump with aplomb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-o

[RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
Try jensenusa.com - they're all on sale and service is great -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

[RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Oh and my second question was where are people buying their bar end shifters from? Doesn't look like Nashbar has them anymore. I'd be happy to buy a used pair, especially if they are the slightly older 10-speed downtube version without the plastic finger pads on them On Wednesday, May 11, 2016

[RBW] Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
So I'm running Dura-Ace 10-speed bar end shifters (now converted to down-tube shifters) on my Atlantis, matched to an Ultegra front derailleur and an XT rear derailleur, 44/26 chain rings to 11-36 XT cassette. I'm a fan. I'm building up a new bike right now and pondering the drive train, looki

[RBW] Re: Riv's love child - new build

2016-05-11 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Soma New Express rubber. Like them a lot so far. Went back and forth between those and a set of Compass Loup Loup Pass (both made by Panaracer, I think), but I am happy with the New Express. Soma is making some realty nice stuff. My setup on my old Ram was significantly different (noodles, bars

[RBW] FS: Wheel Set, Rich built from Rivendell, 105 hubs, 128mm spacing

2016-05-11 Thread boomer
Weird spacing, I know. They were spaced to fit a 126mm or 130mm rear spaced frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Scott Henry
I'm liking this thread. Off the top of my head I can't really tell you what I carry, but I know its not much.At least a knife and a cellphone.Sealant in the tires or tubes will cause you to become reckless in your ER kits. Thinking of Tim's post though, maybe cyclists should start carryin

[RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread Leaf Slayer
Hugh, I'll try and post something up a little later today. If I space out, message me through FB to remind me. There are a lot of options. One thing for anyone heading up to Rainer from Packwood or close by, be sure to take Skate Creek Rd. It's not gravel but it's a winner. --mike On Wednesday

Re: [RBW] Re: Trimming a Fender

2016-05-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/11/2016 05:29 AM, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Thanks for the excellent feedback. After reading the posts, I took another look at the fender set-up, and still can't really see what it's rattling against. As far as I can tell, it clears the tire and front rack by good margins. I tightened up

[RBW] Re: Trimming a Fender

2016-05-11 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Thanks for the excellent feedback. After reading the posts, I took another look at the fender set-up, and still can't really see what it's rattling against. As far as I can tell, it clears the tire and front rack by good margins. I tightened up all associated bolts and screws and will see if

[RBW] Re: Gifford Pinchot NF

2016-05-11 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hey Mike, If possible could you illustrate the route you'd take from GPNF through Rainier? Gravel roads preferred. ~Hugh On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 8:08:29 PM UTC-7, Leaf Slayer wrote: > > I've done a fair amount of riding and bike camping in the GPNF and use the > FS map. It's fine. I'm not