[RBW] Hillborne Questions...

I can't say how it would go with bolts that close, but I've definitely rubbed a chainring with that kind of clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Hillborne Questions...

So I'm looking to finally get the build on my canti Hillborne started, but a few questions have come up... First off, safe clearance between the chainstay and chainring bolts. I'm using a Veloce 110 bcd power torque crank, and the chainring bolts come pretty close to the stays... The worse is

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

Thanks Tom. Any help appreciated but certainly do not take time away from anything important! It's just that I will someday have a 58cm Sam, and will have an Acorn tall rando bag waiting for it. I will certainly measure everything numerous times, then still worry that it is right, but your

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

Lum, Thanks. Most of the credit for the photo goes to Mother Nature, as usual: Thin, even overcast, shot a tad less than an hour before sunset (magic hour...). The Spring green-up all around us these days makes everything look great. But I have to admit the orange tone of the Sam looks

Re: [RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

Lum, Thanks. Most of the credit for the photo goes to Mother Nature, as usual: Thin, even overcast, shot a tad less than an hour before sunset (magic hour...). The Spring green-up all around us these days makes everything look great. But I have to admit the orange tone of the Sam looks

[RBW] Re: Many nice Sam Hillbornes lately

Bob, thanks. Love the Acorn stuff! I bought the Berthoud decaleur from Bike Touring News; they were the only ones that had the parts in stock. I will have to dig up my exact order and get back to you on the size. Tom On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 7:24:48 PM UTC-4, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Hey Tom! Aye, 44s fit, at least the Snoqualmie Pass do. No idea on Rock n’ Roads. The 44’s are snug, so no play if your rim goes out of true, and a bit less front to rear space for shifting. I prefer the ultra supple ride of Compass. Estes is beautiful. I grew up in Ft. Collins and grew up

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

MTB 11-speed cassettes with 40t large cog are pretty common these days, and I've found you don't even need an MTB RD to use them. The latest Ultegra GS R8000 RD will change across an 11-40 no problem with the B-screw most of the way in. Also, using the MTB cassettes has the advantage that you

[RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Uh, make that Rocky Mtn *National *Park. We were staying near Estes Park ("Machin's Cottages"), and drove south for a while one day just exploring, and got close enough to Pike's Peak to take in the beauty all around there. On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 9:42:58 PM UTC-4, tc wrote: > > Hey

[RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Hey Patrick, you obviously haven't told your Quickbeam it isn't supposed to be able to do what it is doing! Don't blame you though, for it looks like you both are more than up to the task. I know you really like the 38 Steilacooms and have no reason to change. Just wondering, did you ever

[RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Goodness, that’s a pretty scene, Nick. Wow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

A quality wheel set should cost less than a quality complete bike I guess, right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Hunqabeam will be 61” main and 42” turkey vulture gear. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Doh, my mistake: it seems the 29er triple is 22/30/40 (downsized middle and big rings). In my defense, I live in Ohio and haven't used a tiny granny in many, many years. Eric On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Analog Cycles Frederick, MD < analogcyc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Eric, point me in

Re: [RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

57” is my turkey vulture gearing on my QB, 71” my main gear. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Just an aside, but I do recall fondly the one time I grunted 45 lb up a very steep (coasting without braking or strong headwind will get you up to 40+ in under 1/2 mile) hill in a 67" gear at 4 mph (digit flickering on my speedo), for a cadence of about 20 rpm. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:32 PM,

[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 56CM Frame, Fork, and Headset

If I had a Frank Jones stretcher (currently out of stock with Riv) I would be giving you money and a frame! On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 2:22:48 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > dang i'd probably replace my Frank Jones with this if I could sell it. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Great fun, tho' I'll pass on 17*F and 50 mph winds. And fixed hauling 120 lb must be a new experience indeed. (What is your load-pulling gear again?) Dammit, Patrick, you are making me covet (and during Great Lent, too!) a nice, fixed, or at least ss, dirt road bike! Patrick Moore, of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

James I believe 24t grannys are common: 1 RBW has the Sugino XD2 triple with a 24 and also their Silver brand with a 24 2 Spa Cycles in the UK sells the Xd2 with TA rings down to a 24 3 Additionally, 74mm BCD 24T granny rings are available. The 15% difference from 24/34 (19.3gi) to 24/40

[RBW] Re: Pletscher CLEM Rack Dimension Needed

Mark Thanks for the pictures. Sorry about the confusing post I wanted the horizontal distance along the rack, from the front of it to directly above the rear drop out containing the strut plate. This point should be just aft of the strut to rack top rivet. Just eyeballing it from the pic

[RBW] Re: Huge Step-through Spring Update

Nice thing about these is that they can go on either an Expedition or the Sport. And, they are silver. I think that the old Carradice Bagman 2 (with supports) was only available in the Sport size and black. On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 11:52:13 AM UTC-7, MartyG wrote: > > The struts are

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

My mountain bike days were mostly pre-1995, with the first being a CyclePro "Sintesi" with Deore 6 speed; 48/238/28 X 14/28 was the rule. The next was ditto but 7. By 1995 the gearing had dropped to 46/36/24, with 22s cropping up, and 32 cogs available. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Eric Daume

[RBW] Re: FS: Mavic MTB/Touring Crankset w/ Campagnolo BB $80.00 + shipping

The crankset and bb have been sold. Thanks On Thursday, 29 March 2018 11:53:50 UTC-7, Paul M wrote: > > Hello, Vintage Mavic crankset removed from a early 90's Ritchey road bike > that was hardly ridden. 172.5 crank arms, forged, 24/38/48 chain rings in > very good condition ( 8 out of a 10

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Thanks Scott! *Analog Cycles * *www.analogcycles.com * *instagram.com/analogcycles * *analogcyc...@gmail.com * *301-456-5471* On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Scott Blouke wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

John, If I compared a 24t granny and a 34t cog and claimed TVS was 23% lower than that, that would be not true. However, I compared* a typical touring crankset *(Sugino XD) and rear cassette 11-34... same rear spread used by surly, riv, etc. There are also 11-36 cassettes out there, which would

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

I just want to add. A browse through some "common" touring bikes Fuji/LHT/Marrakesh/ REI ADV 1.1 all use a 48/36/26 crank and while a 24T is possible its not on them. On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: > > Also, it's been a long time since mountain bikes had a 24t

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

Very nice. How does the high handlebar bag (high, as opposed to one that sits lower down on a front rack) affect your Hunq's handling? I found that it made mine surprisingly squirrelly. Kevin Lindsey Alexandria, VA USA On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 11:28:47 AM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Hey Eric, point me in the direction of those 20t mtn cranks. If they can mount a 44t big ring and have 5 bolts I'm all about it. -James *Analog Cycles * *www.analogcycles.com * *instagram.com/analogcycles *

Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Also, it's been a long time since mountain bikes had a 24t low on a triple. Most 26ers had 22t, with a 34t low (16.8 gear inches). 29ers started getting a 20t low, before 2x and 1x drivetrains took over. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:29 PM, John Hawrylak wrote: > James >

[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

Love the idea, and I'm close to actually trying it on my Jones... A 29x3" knobby set and a 29x2.35 semi-slick set. EBB accounts for any height differential if necessary. I also like the idea for my Saluki, a rough stuff RnR or new compass knobby set to pair with my compass bsp set. But I

[RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

James You claim of 23% lower gearing is not exactly true. The difference is 15%, since a touring bike can easily have a 24T granny vs your article using a 26T granny for the touring bike and a 24T granny for TVS. So the article is not a true comparison between a 26T granny/34T cog and your

[RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

My touring bike has had a 17" low gear for many years - Rohloff hub with 38t chainring and 17t rear cog. I can happily ride it up steep climbs at 6-7kph with my cadence still up at around 80. It's got me up some Swiss mountains with gradients getting up to about 30%. Here it is near the top of

Re: [RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

The drivetrain is a 36t wolf tooth drop stop front ring, xt 10 speed 11/36 cassette and an ultegra mid cage derailer. I hate setting up front derailleurs and I live in the second flattest state in the union so I'm covered for gearing both here and beyond. I bought a sunrace 9 speed 11-40

Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Thank for this, James. Some time ago, I came across your turkey vulture concept and now employ it on several bikes. I live in an area with plenty of very steep paved and gravel roads—many of them approaching 20% for short stretches—and even steeper sections on the MTB trails. I’ve found that on

[RBW] Re: Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

I've had "extra wheelsets" for bikes, but never used them. I just ride what I've got on the bike, and start fantasizing about getting another frame. I could use a knobby wheelset for the Bontrager, but I kind of want a whole new bike for dirt (forward geometry singlespeed hardtail/rigid 29er).

[RBW] Re: Pletscher CLEM Rack Dimension Needed

Not exactly sure what you are looking for; as I interpret your request, that is a variable length due to the plate provided. Hope this helps:

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

On top of the downtube is a Blackburn cargo cage, on bottom is a pdw owl cage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

Hey Patrick, what's the name of that guy who makes those? I know white industries used to make the limbo spider... 14-15 gear inches is about as low as I can go on loose terrain. We really like horrible fire roads and class 4 roads, plus riding technical singletrack with a loaded bike. -James

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

Chris, Yes those are wtb byways. I rode the old 54 hunq at Riv years back and loved it and wished it were bigger. I didn't measure standover, and I never have, but my pbh was measured at Riv at 88. This bike feels really good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

That's an interesting view of gearing, and an interesting mix of components to get it. I personally would rather walk after a certain point (or just avoid the route), but that's my own preference. I recall, back about 1990, when your typical mtb gearing was 48/38/28 X 14-28 7 speed (26" low),

[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 56CM Frame, Fork, and Headset

dang i'd probably replace my Frank Jones with this if I could sell it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 56CM Frame, Fork, and Headset

One more time before eBay. $650 shipped to lower 48? Thanks, Karl On Saturday, March 17, 2018 at 11:45:07 AM UTC-5, Karl wrote: > A) I realize I said 58cm. This is a 56cm frame.  > B) To keep me from putting it on eBay $700 shipped to lower 48. > > > Thanks! > > > Karl > Nashville, TN > >

[RBW] Re: Huge Step-through Spring Update

The struts are available separately. By the way, this is the Sport model, a little less drop than the Expedition, but with the added height of the saddle springs it's just perfect. https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-bagman-stabiliser-struts/?geoc=US > Did you order the Carradice

[RBW] Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

New article up on the Analog Cycles Journal. It's about Turkey Vulture Supreme gearing, a refinement of our super wide range gearing system. Roughly 23% lower gearing on the low end, and the same ole high gearing as a

[RBW] Pletscher CLEM Rack Dimension Needed

Could someone with a Pletscher CLEM measure the distance from the front of the rack (where the collapsible stop is) to the point directly above the rear drop to which the front strut is attached. Want to see how much of a gap I would have on my 88 Schwinn Voyaguer between the front of the rack

[RBW] Re: Huge Step-through Spring Update

Wow! What a beaut! “High-ho Silver! Away!” With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Huge Step-through Spring Update

Marty, That's a wonderful bike, amazing frame and, yes, love the head badge! Did you order the Carradice supports as a separate item from SJS or are they only available as part of a package with the Bagman? David Lipsky Berkeley, CA On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 9:55:43 AM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

Sweet 1x drivetrain! I’m building up my wife’s Clementine as a 1x and have been puzzling out how to figure her chainring. Is yours a 32 or 34? or am I off? (the answer may be yes to both!) Grin. It’s hard to beat a stable with a QB and Hunqa in it! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

Looks great!!! Ive got a similar build on my hunq with bullmoose boscos. What's your saddle height in these photos? On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 12:28:22 PM UTC-4, Austin B. wrote: > > Beautiful bike! I've always like the green on the Hunq. I also have a > Tubus Tara on my Sam--I wish the Riv

[RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

Errandonneering complete! 16 errands in all 10 categories, 134 miles. Falls into the category of “if it’s worth doing, it’s worth over doing.” grin. https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/errandonnee-2018 With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: FS: "Canti-Rom" Romulus 59, built for randonneuring

I just finished having my Rom overhauled. What a great ride with 33 mm tires. Someone should get this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Huge Step-through Spring Update

Behold!, the best bike ever. I love love love mine. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks the rosco badge is the bee's knees? Plenty of room both or more on that mega head tube, but yea, the monochrome is nice. Great cranks, good times for sure. Enjoy -Kai BK NY On Friday, March 30, 2018 at

[RBW] Huge Step-through Spring Update

Near final touches to my Huge Step-through and a little light rain made for a good picture day. Refreshments include a Bagman rack with newly introduced struts picked up from SJS. Love this set-up with the B67 and Cadet bag. Tires are the big Schwalbe G1s - seem perfect for this bike. Fenders?

[RBW] Re: For trade or sale: Rivendell Frank Jones Sr 53cm

$2000 shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

Beautiful bike! I've always like the green on the Hunq. I also have a Tubus Tara on my Sam--I wish the Riv forks had mounts in the right place to fit it without an adapter. One build question--what is that bottle mount for on the downtube? Never seen anything like it. And I see a ton of bikes

[RBW] Re: FS: "Canti-Rom" Romulus 59, built for randonneuring

Just a bump for a great bike... I love my Ram and my Bomba, but I'll admit my canti-Rom catches most of my rides these days... On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 7:59:28 AM UTC-4, DMG wrote: > > Hi all, > > Needing to part ways with my first run, Toyo-made Romulus, with lots of > practical

[RBW] Re: Clem Baby Hauling

I second the Yepp Easy Fitt. It works great with a 55 Joe Appaloosa. I bought the rack to go with it. https://instagram.com/p/Bfmg9TnHCIP/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Clem Baby Hauling

I've used the Yepp Mini and currently using the Yepp Maxi Easyfit with a specific rack that has an Easyfit window. I spent a lot of time figuring out different attachment designs and ended up liking the Easyfit design the best - and it works great. The rack it goes with is a beast! Steel

[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

Are those one of the WTB 47mm tires and if so, did you measure the stand-over? I think I'm just on the cusp of fitting a 56 (versus a 53) Hunqapillar. On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 10:28:47 AM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote: > > It's a gently used 56 cm 650b I picked up in December from a

[RBW] Finished Hunqapillar Build

It's a gently used 56 cm 650b I picked up in December from a list member. I sold my Sam H. and a '93 XO-2 to fund the frameset. I'm down to this, a Quickbeam and an'94 XO-3 and my Gary Fisher tandem. My wife has the Rosco Bubbaloosa mixte. Feel to ask build questions.

[RBW] Clem Baby Hauling

I'd been contemplating all through fall/winter on how to best convert my 65cm Clem H to a kid hauler come spring. Well, spring has finally arrived and our son hits 9 months soon. Once the weather really breaks I hope to get him out for some rides but until then I'm still working out some

[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

buy buy baby On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 9:32:09 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > > Bump. > Get your step-through new Atlantis here > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

A “duh!” correctly to my post. I obviously can’t use the same rear wheel for the Quickbeam (120mm) and Hunqabeam (135mm) rear spacing, so I’d have to choose one. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Who swaps out wheel sets to keep from buying new bikes?

I consider my “n” to be one and two thirds which translates to a 2010 or 11 orange Canti-Hillborne and a Brompton. I also had a Soma Groove but had to give it up when I lost the storage space for 2 full size bikes. I miss the dedicated mtb but have really maximized the versatility of the

[RBW] FS: Sugino XD600 46-36-26 170mm & Shimano BB's

118mm bb sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: FS/T: Sackville SaddleSack Medium

Hi Max, I have several Sackville bags in the color labelled "tan," and on my monitor this looks like the same color. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] From the Blug: Tall Roadeo

Patrick, I’m guessing those Schwalbe G-One tires are 35mm or maybe a 37 (which might be a stretch on the Roadeo). Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: From the Blug: Tall Roadeo

that bike would fit me, but I would have to lower the seat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: From the Blug: Tall Roadeo

Is it me, or does this frame seem too small for this setup? I wonder if Riv tried to talk this customer into a larger-framed AHH? It's just not a typical setup that comes out of Riv--bars below saddle, lots of seatpost showing, bars maxed out. Maybe they are just inserted at the extremes for

[RBW] Re: My one-year review of Cheviot

Hi Josette, Thanks for the informative review. I really love the Cheviot and hope to own one some day myself.. I think you are using the bike exactly as it was intended and I'm sure it will serve you well for the years to come. PS. Nice message on the "about you" section of your blog. These

[RBW] Re: From the Blug: Tall Roadeo

I'm pretty sure they don't insert the (new) seatpost fully in mockups such as these to avoid adding scratches prior to delivery to the owner. The rider can then dial in their own seat height. On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 10:43:55 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > 64 cm Roadeo; that's

[RBW] Re: FS: Sugino XD600 46-36-26 170mm & Shimano BB's

113mm BB Sold On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 8:03:06 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote: > > Like new Sugino XD600 46-36-26 crank. 170mm crank arm length. The crank > was installed on an attempted bike build, but never used to ride. So, it > was installed and uninstalled several times, but the bike never

[RBW] From the Blug: Tall Roadeo

Center to top of the lug is how they are measured PM. When we grew up frames were always c-c. Many frame builders who have been around awhile still measure c-c though. I always thought c-t odd though since all the other tubes are measured c-c. It would great to try a tall Riv road frame to