Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-12-07 Thread Wyatt
Rich - I talked my girlfriend into dropping me off in Nashville (we got an AirBnB not far from the trace the night before I left). We met back up in Natchez where a few of our friends live. I did the ride in 5 days, which is about as many nights in a row that I want to camp these days. Plenty

Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters on downtube?

2019-12-07 Thread esoterica etc
Yep Joe, you’re right. I recently built up a Clem for my wife with mustache bars and Silver1 shifters mounted to an IRD stem adapter. Even though I haven’t handled the Silver2’s in person, I’m pretty positive that the Silver1’s work better than the Silver2’s on a stem mount. Bill is also

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a thing I insist upon on my Twitter feed, although harder to pull off now than when I started there nearly a decade ago. I've made some incredible lifelong friends - some I've since met in person - because I reached out to people I disagree with. Incidentally studies show that people who

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-12-07 Thread R Shannon
Paul, thank you for the info and pics. Looks like an enjoyable ride both visually and historically. Best, Rich in ATL Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2019, at 4:56 PM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > >  > R Shannon, > > If interested, here is a Flickr album + two, that I put

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Drw
I’ll refrain from engaging politically, since it’s super prohibited. I do think that everyone has been pretty cordial and understanding to others. I understand that political things can go sour fast, and that’s why it’s frowned on here, but at this point in time it’s worth momentarily

[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco, Tallux, XTR, XT, Crust, Suntour, Sugino, SOMA.....

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
PM sent on the Boscos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Re: Thin Gripster alternatives?

2019-12-07 Thread Evan E.
If anyone on this list is still considering VP pedals, you might want to read this review from Rob Perks of Ocean Air Cycles: http://oceanaircycles.com/2013/04/22/vp-vice-and-001-pedal-comparison/ The gist: VP Vice pedals have better bearings and a lower Q factor than do the VP-001 pedals (aka

Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

2019-12-07 Thread Leah Peterson
I could not be happier  Looks fantastic, and your paint won’t be scuffed. Bravo!! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2019, at 4:56 PM, masmojo wrote: > > Ok, Leah, you've inspired me. > Lights for the Holidaze! > https://photos.app.goo.gl/hpHBSJd8JQPG9hSf9 > > -- > You received this

Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

2019-12-07 Thread masmojo
Ok, Leah, you've inspired me. Lights for the Holidaze! https://photos.app.goo.gl/hpHBSJd8JQPG9hSf9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
The problem I see going forward if this Executive Power situation continues unchecked is the precedent will be set. Why would a Democrat win in '20 or '24 and go back to the good old days? That's not how reality works. Anything the president gets away with now will be paid back later, and most

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread masmojo
I've been a little hesitant to jump into the pool, but seeing as it's come up I'll say a few words. The current Liberal Vs. Conservative, Left Vs. Right crap that's going on is just decisiveness, either "side" is made up of people with various beliefs and were the "liberals" to go away it

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Mark Roland
I won't attempt to answer your question, but I will say that thinking in the U.S. has become so binary that any remark one makes is often enough for people to immediately assign you a label, and all the attributes they associate with that label now become attached to you (if not the bike you

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Patrick Moore
This seems to me to be a very workable modus vivendi. On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 1:03 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > > "Why buy from a liberal if you're conservative?" > > Why be friends with a conservative if I'm liberal? Same answer as the one > above: Life is better this way. I have close friends who

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
"I’m not saying you’re gonna get it, Joe, but you have to have an ideal." Well neither of us are running the joint so I guess we roll with it or talk about folders and Pedersen bikes on internet-bob. The reality is the Blahg became a separate and more personal section of rivbike.com a few years

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-12-07 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch
R Shannon, If interested, here is a Flickr album + two, that I put together from a March, 2018 Trace trip from Natchez to Nashville with two buddies: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157690091752920 "Local Color":  

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread James Warren
I’m not saying you’re gonna get it, Joe, but you have to have an ideal. > On Dec 7, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Really there's no "off topic" until the moderator says so. I've seen plenty > of Blahg-tangent discussions here because yes, Riv is Grant and Grant has > been an

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Really there's no "off topic" until the moderator says so. I've seen plenty of Blahg-tangent discussions here because yes, Riv is Grant and Grant has been an interesting figure in this business for over 30 years. I don't think you're going to get "only the bikes and parts" here, it's not

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread James Warren
No, paleo diets were not acceptable content. If people view them as such, they are off topic. My point is that this forum did remain much more On topic between its start and say, 2012 or so. > On Dec 7, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > But that's not how it's been. Paleo diets

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/7/19 4:08 PM, James Warren wrote: My understanding when this forum started was that “Discussing Riv products specifically and quality ride* reports” (ridden on other brands being OK if it’s a ride report) was what we’re here for. BOBish philosophies and Grant’s ideas about cameras

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
There's only so far you can go with "no politics" when the Blahg very clearly expresses politics and this forum is about that company. I posted the pic with a rather naive admonition of NO POLITICS, as if that would solve any discussion complexities..I'm an idiot! But in general I think

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread James Warren
My understanding when this forum started was that “Discussing Riv products specifically and quality ride* reports” (ridden on other brands being OK if it’s a ride report) was what we’re here for. BOBish philosophies and Grant’s ideas about cameras would be OT. Unless Riv starts selling a

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Chris L
Making one's political leanings known is no big deal (although I also prefer all of my hobbies to remain free of politics) but routinely calling half the country (and half of your potential customers) racist, insinuating that black people can't leave their homes for fear of being lynched by

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Brian Campbell
Interesting answers so far. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Garth
It seems at this point either no one else comment, or else Jim will have to come along and waste his time editing/deleting it because regardless of Joe's intention in posting, was political in nature. There is no such thing as an Intelligent discussion about politics, zippo, nada.

[RBW] Silver2 shifters on downtube?

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Hmm, the stem mount, I forgot that thing was a thing. This would solve a problem I have with my right hand..I've switched rear shifters to the left side, and on my Clem H with a front shifter it's mounted so I kinda manhandle it with the whole hand to move the shifter (not often in front). With

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Joe Bernard
"Why buy from a liberal if you're conservative?" Why be friends with a conservative if I'm liberal? Same answer as the one above: Life is better this way. I have close friends who don't agree with me politically AT ALL and it would be insane for me to consider this as a debit against them,

[RBW] Silver2 shifters on downtube?

2019-12-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
The real question is how they look and work on the stem. So few people recognize the truth that stem shifters are freaking BOSS that I just have to assume it’s up to me to try it first. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Jason Fuller
I think more than anything, people have vastly different conceptions of what being liberal or being conservative is. The information you get about either side is entirely different based on your source of news, or your family / friends word of mouth. That said I've never worried about

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread A. Douglas M.
Great quote, Patrick. I love Rivendell’s cycling philosophy, and I think Grant is a great person. With that said, I prefer my bikes sans political commentary. I also really enjoy kale and my wife’s blueberry pie. They are also most enjoyable when separated. It makes me sad to look at a

[RBW] WTB: 12mm Inner Chainring Bolts & 4mm spacers (for granny ring attachment to Flag crankarms M8)

2019-12-07 Thread Pancake
Thanks to a generous group member I now have a great pair of Specialized "Flag" ST crankarms. And thanks to another group member I have 110/74 chainrings and chain guard for them. *But I'm missing the ~4mm spacers and 12mm or 12.5mm bolts to attach the inner ring to the crankarm. Like these:

Re: [RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Patrick Moore
I have tried to refrain from commenting, but if others are going to insist on it, I will add my 2c worth. "Liberal" and "conservative" are labels that have very little grounding in reality and mean little more than "I like this" or I dislike that." "Right" and "left" even more confused; what side

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Correction: Simple, not necessarily easy. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Easy. Differences in anthropology. Who am I? (and thus who are we?) Why am > I here? (and thus why are we here?) What does it all mean? (and this

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Easy. Differences in anthropology. Who am I? (and thus who are we?) Why am I here? (and thus why are we here?) What does it all mean? (and this all there is, or is there "something" beyond? Is there a truth higher than my personal opinions/experiences/desires? Is there a God? If so, who is God?

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Brian Campbell
I just wonder how someone who identifies themselves as conservative could purchase something from Riv and not see a conflict? Grant and crew have always put forth ideas and been involved in actions that are decidedly liberal, IMHO. How do you square the business model of a company that is in

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

2019-12-07 Thread J L
Dynasys / 11s / etc My experience tells me these levers will not pair well with a Dynasys or 11s RD. In fact, I think the Silver 1 shifters probably offer better adjustability when used as downtube shifters. I use those older style silvers to friction shift a 10s rear cluster on one bike and

[RBW] Silver2 shifters on downtube?

2019-12-07 Thread RichS
Will at Riv recently said the original Silvers would be the better choice for dt shifters. Best, Rich in ATL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-12-07 Thread R Shannon
Wyatt, Thanks for that description. I have also contemplated doing the trail. Fall would also be my choice for best time to do the ride. How long did your trip take and what did you do for accommodations? Thank you! Best, Rich in ATL Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2019, at 4:13 AM, Wyatt

[RBW] Re: Alternative to Halfmitts?

2019-12-07 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I use boiled wool glomitts. https://www.sweaterchalet.com/dachstein-woolwear/dw-3115-adult-mitts/#cc-m-product-11727274031 It's a different system entirely, but most, if not all, your riding would be covered by one pair, with the balance covered with a pair of chopper mitts over them for the

[RBW] Alternative to Halfmitts?

2019-12-07 Thread Justin Kennedy
I never had a pair of halfmitts but I'm looking for something similar to wear over my medium wool gloves, mostly for wind protection (nothing lined). These

[RBW] President and Mrs. Carter's Rivendells

2019-12-07 Thread David Carner
I am placing this in a new thread so as not to perpetuate the one that predictably devolved into internecine squabbling. My observations are based on the recollection that this story of stolen bicycles caused a similar kerfuffle on the forum that preceded this one. I am fairly sure that Mark

[RBW] Re: Law professor, Riv Rider

2019-12-07 Thread Garth
Hah hah . there's neither politics in Intelligence or Intelligence in politics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Small Sackville saddlesack in grey & RBW roadini frameset special**

2019-12-07 Thread Andrew Turner
The bag has sold! On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 4:15:38 PM UTC-6, Andrew Turner wrote: > > Just purchased a larger saddlebag from Dill Pickle so I'm gonna pass this > one along:) Size small. Pics here > > > Also as a reminder, I'm selling a 61cm

[RBW] Re: Thin Gripster alternatives?

2019-12-07 Thread brendonoid
Wow yeah this thread has got me scratching my head. Have the VPs on all my Rivs (the Homer since 2013?) and have never even had to look at them twice. The Homer is my commuter and has 20k kms at least on it. I'm going to go check my pedals now... On Saturday, 7 December 2019 11:33:12 UTC+8,

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-12-07 Thread Wyatt
Tim: I enjoyed it, especially the stretch from Nashville down to about Tishomingo State Park in Mississippi. That's the hilliest section of riding and just about every 15 or 20 miles there is another clear creek or waterfall to cool off in. Lots of trees, great hammock camping, worth taking it

[RBW] Silver2 shifters on downtube?

2019-12-07 Thread Wyatt
Thought that might be the case. Thanks for confirming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Re: QB 62 FOR SALE

2019-12-07 Thread maxcr
Im 5’11” with 90.5 pbh and my 62 simpleone with albatross bars and a 81cm saddle height is one of my favorite bikes in terms of fit Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving