[RBW] Cheviot at Community Cycles in CO

2021-12-12 Thread luckyturnip
Whilst perusing the internet I saw a large Cheviot in the inventory at Community Cycles in Boulder, CO. https://communitycycles.org/bike-shop/used-bikes-for-sale/ No affiliation or idea if it’s still there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Nathan F
Just to put the final nail in the Platypus tire clearance debate's coffin: I'm running the same 2.2" tires as Ray Varella, tubeless, and they fit great with plenty of mud clearance. I'm not going to take a picture, you'll just have to believe us! Those Herse tires are the perfect Platypus tires

[RBW] Re: hanging bikes on the wall

2021-12-12 Thread Minh
wow roberta, how high is the top tube on the hilsen(?), still that seems like a strong squat to lift that bike up. thanks to all the suggestions, those are all the options i've investigated, but its the lifting part that worries me. i'll have to test lift to see how well i can handle it.

[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread dougP
PS: The first time I laid eyes on a Rivendell was when I unboxed my Atlantis. They seemed like nice people that knew what they were doing. 30 minutes out of the box & I was on the road. Within a few miles, I was blown away at how nicely the bike rode. PPS: About 10 years ago, a 47cm

[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread dougP
I was looking for a serious touring bike but the offerings from Trek, Specialized, etc., were all going to require some change to meet my desires. Then I read a road test in Bikecentennial (now Adventure Cycling) by John Schubert. His bottom line was if you wanted a serious touring bike that

Re: [RBW] Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Joe Bernard
I remember that Bicycling review. "Will people interested in lugged steel frames and friction shifting pay for it?"  On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 7:01:57 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote: > I read a review of a Riv Road in Bicycling magazine in the late 90’s and > that review led me to

Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread Peter Stock
nothing is sexier than black 1st Gen Dura Ace. and i have two bikes with this groupaet. a Puch Vent Noir https://photos.app.goo.gl/nY5DFS65ejufNYJ9A and a Ron Spencer shop brand (probably Harry Quinn built) https://photos.app.goo.gl/BOg1R7vxov0u9xin2 On Fri., Dec. 10, 2021, 11:39 a.m. Eric

[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Roberta
Funny, I just responded to Laura's thread and put my story in there. Steel frame Rim brakes Upright riding habit I was riding a 1990 Specialized Hard Rock mountain bike that I liked but didn't love any longer and wanted something more comfortable. I knew I wanted upright riding habit to

Re: [RBW] Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread rltilley
I read a review of a Riv Road in Bicycling magazine in the late 90’s and that review led me to research Rivendell bicycles. That research led me to the BOB group which soon lead to a custom order for an All Rounder being placed. Grant made a lot of sense to me in his bike designs and

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Roberta
Oh, boy, am I enjoying this thread. Laura, our stories are similar and I was in your position just 4 1/2 years ago. We are the same age. Feel free to jump to executive summary, for those of you who know my story. Background: In HS, I bought a bike in '75 or so (perhaps the same model that

[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Berkeleyan
Why? Because I had an insurance settlement from getting doored in west Berkeley, and I had a RBW catalogue in hand, having previously bought Moustache Bars for my Novara XR "cross" bike from REI. I wrote to Grant, and we settled on a 65cm LongLow frame. He took in all my specs, and the frame

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Garth
(( ( ( Laughing with delight on the brink of meaning . at least of the human variety ! ) ) ) ) I do find the quote hilarious and am in no way oh-fended at all by your use of it ! I cannot disagree with it. I'm sure you can relate in *some* way lest the phrase even

Re: [RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Ben Mihovk
A good friend of mine from high school and college told me in 2001 that if I ever bought a bike, it’d be a Rivendell. He told me I just seemed like a Riv guy. I did not even ride back then, but I remembered and thought that if I ever started riding, I’d look into Rivendell. I thought about

Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread Jason Glenn
Christ, I love the black and cream frame choice. FWIW, I think David's Sam looks fantastic with the silver cranks -- are they Rene Herse? -- and the black rims. Jason in L.A. On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 5:26:36 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks, Eric, for kicking off

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Color matters, too. The new/last Susie run will be in Dark Gold and LimeOlive and hoo buddy those are pretty colors! On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 2:32:42 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote: > Ah yes, Rivendell models come and go with great frequency. I tell people, > if you see what you like,

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread bruce.herbit...@gmail.com
Ah yes, Rivendell models come and go with great frequency. I tell people, if you see what you like, buy it. Chances are it won't be there later. Some models were made in more quantity so your chances at a resale are better.  Some are very scarce.  To Doug's comment, I would reply, if you think

[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Chris L
My first adult bike was a 1995 Trek 730 Multitrack and I thought it was the perfect bike for me, but as I learned more about bikes, I discovered I wanted way more tire clearance (730 = 40mm, barely) and a much longer top-tube. I was a fan of quite a few smaller bike brands and wanted

[RBW] Re: Brake lever inward rotation on Noodle Bars

2021-12-12 Thread beachb...@gmail.com
I ride mine swiveled in almost in line with the flair of the drops. I find it much more comfortable. On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 8:13:01 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote: > I'm still dialing in my brake lever (Tiagra) position on my wide (48cm) > Noodles, before I tape the bars and commit to

[RBW] WTB: Acorn basket bag (V2) in black.

2021-12-12 Thread Mr. Ray
Hi, missed the November sale in black canvas. If anyone has one they are not using please send me a PM. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread Chris Buzzini
Thanks, Eric, for kicking off this thread and to everyone who responded! I put down a deposit for a Roadeo over the summer and have decided to go with black and cream for the frame. These images are really helping me visualize my options when it comes to the build. Pretty certain I’m going

Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions re Roadeo colors

2021-12-12 Thread Andrew Schell
I’ve been watching obsessively for it to show up on their website again, and no luck so far….. unless someone snatched it up very quickly! andrew in Calgary Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Scott Calhoun wrote: > > I bought it from TPC recently (in 2021--maybe 6 months

[RBW] Re: The welded Platy lives

2021-12-12 Thread Doug H.
Grant is on a roll with bicycle frames...pun intended. I like that he is putting out frames for a variety of uses and at different prices points. I do believe drop-tubes make for the most forgiving and accessible bicycles. Doug On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:09:49 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

[RBW] Re: WTB Quickbeam Frameset

2021-12-12 Thread Doug H.
+ another one on the freewheel. I think I'll get one and fiddle with it at my desk while I consider another single speed... Doug On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 10:49:08 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote: > +1 on the White Industries freewheel. I need to pull my 17t model from the > parts box and put it on

[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Ray Varella
I received an early flyer/reader in an order from American Cyclery San Francisco. After reading the specs on the frames, the Allrounder sounded like a great compliment to my classic road bike, by the time I ordered one they had gone to customs and the Atlantis was replacing the Allrounder. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Doug H.
Leah is the utmost authority on Platypus vs Clem L so take her words as certain as much as one can knowing we all seem to get something unique from the same bicycle. I had the chance to buy a Platypus but decided to get the Clem L for two reasons...cost and style. I just prefer the Clem lines.

[RBW] Re: FS: Cranksets and Shifters

2021-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
Deore Shifters claimed. Two cranksets remain available. 1. Shimano Deore Hollowtech triple crankset. 175mm arms. Model #FC-M591. They look almost completely unused. I think these were a take off on a newish team bike that we switched to a 2x or 1x. $40 plus shipping. I can throw in a

[RBW] Re: Opinions re Roadeo colors

2021-12-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
OK, I happily concede the point that the two different off-whites that look the same to me are in fact different. I'll stick with my opinion that the original white/off-white/cream with red accents is recognizeably a Roadeo, and looks great. For the original poster, who was/is looking for

Re: [RBW] Re: Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Now this is certainly true. On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 8:31 AM MoVelo wrote: > My reference to 'dirt' showing up less on black was imprecise. By 'dirt' I > meant that filth that turns black due to grease, oil or other lubricants. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Don't tempt me, man, don't tempt me. On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 9:37 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Patrick, > > The Neutrino rides pretty normal to me. If I ride it back-to-back with my > wa long and mellow custom the V-O feels notably short-coupled and > quicker steering, but that's fun..I wanted

Re: [RBW] Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Because I wanted a 26" wheel road bike that handled better than my 1992 XO-1. Backstory: For some reason I decided about 1990 that 26" wheels were better for road riding than 700C and, after road-ifying several mountain bikes (wonderful 1991 Stumpjumper Team was the summit and apex) I discovered

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Sorry, life of Dryden. On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 1:54 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > (The text is from Dr. Johnson reviewing some novelist.) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore
"He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning." Sorry, Garth, couldn't resist, just yanking your chain; and I do read your posts instead of deleting them with the huge swathes of posts I delete from all lists every day. Back to regular programming. (The text is from Dr. Johnson reviewing

[RBW] Why did you buy your first Riv?

2021-12-12 Thread aeroperf
I see Laura B’s thread about Susie vs. Platy, and Iconley’s timeline with 15 Riv bikes, and so I thought I’d ask: What made you buy your first Rivendell bicycle? Not “What do you like about Rivendell bicycles”, or “Why did you buy a second one?”, but why did you buy your first? In my case I

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Tangential, but this is very interesting, since I too find that certain "fast" bikes are heavier ones; this all-round and not merely on hills. Was it here or on the boblist that there was a recent thread about what makes a bike "fast"? At any rate, IME, it's not at all just weight. (Judging "fast"

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Garth
Hey Joe ..It's all fun and games when it's "Party on Garth ", right Joe ? You see, I don't know if your being sarcastic, endearing, an ass or a saint when you say that. So for examples sake I ask "Why are you targeting me, do you think I like it ? Do you think I find it

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Laura
I did use the word “should” which are fighting words! Yes, I was describing a very non-Susie bike. For that, I stand corrected. But, I am someone that longed for a Susie for months only to pass on a purchase. It is impossible to play mental gymnastics without visualizing the bike I would want

[RBW] Re: FS: Many bike parts (google doc)

2021-12-12 Thread Drew Saunders
It’s been a couple weeks, so I suppose this post is due for a bump. About half the items sold, but there are still quite a few Items left. It might be more efficient to email me directly with the item(s) you want in the subject line. Thanks, Drew On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 1:43:15 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Garth
Hey Joe ..It's all fun and games when it's "Party on Garth ", right Joe ? On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 2:22:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > > Laura, you're just expressing thoughts and opinions like everybody else. > Garth is weirdly targeing you and needs to knock it off. > > Joe

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Garth
Well Laura, In the art of communication I swear it's miracle we understand anything at all about anyone and anything ! Hence, I find the idea that we *ought. should, could or would *know just the perfect thing to say at all times, "or else" we either play the part of the mis-understand-er or

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Joe Bernard
Laura, you're just expressing thoughts and opinions like everybody else. Garth is weirdly targeing you and needs to knock it off. Joe Bernard On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 9:37:55 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: > Garth… I hope my post did not read as demanding or complaining! It was >

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Laura
Garth… I hope my post did not read as demanding or complaining! It was meant as a thoughtful opinion, especially in light of the Gus/Susie possible demise. Riv has begun to make less expensive tig-welded frames in large part, I assume, because people requested them. Enough customer opinions

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread iamkeith
I didn't take Laura's comments as "criticism" of the Susie design. But Garth is right about it just being a light version of the gus. I almost got the feeling that it was an afterthought. Like they knew they needed a 1 1/8" headset and a reasonably heavy duty tubeset if Gus was going to be

[RBW] Personal Rivendell Timeline

2021-12-12 Thread lconley
For some reason, I decided to do my Personal Rivendell Timeline (frames & 1 complete): 01) 12/18/2012 - $950 - Sam Hillborne - 56 cm, Blue headtube special, DTT, sidepulls (since sold, replaced by the orange Sam) 02) 11/27/2014 - $1800 - Bombadil - 52 cm, Hunq green, diagatube, tentacles 03)

[RBW] Re: WTB Quickbeam Frameset

2021-12-12 Thread RichS
+1 on the White Industries freewheel. I need to pull my 17t model from the parts box and put it on my desk - while waiting for the RoadUno. Best, Rich in ATL On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:56:17 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > This is a quote from Grant's Blagh: > > 2. RoadUno: A

[RBW] Re: Brake lever inward rotation on Noodle Bars

2021-12-12 Thread RichS
Andrew, I have the same brake lever/bar setup as you (44cm bars) on my bikes. The levers are tilted in just slightly; two or three degrees I'd guess. I've run them this way as long as I can remember so it feels natural. No drawback to turning the levers in if that's your sweet spot. Best, Rich

Re: [RBW] Re: Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread MoVelo
My reference to 'dirt' showing up less on black was imprecise. By 'dirt' I meant that filth that turns black due to grease, oil or other lubricants. I prefer silver components myself since I can better tell when they need a good cleaning. The only experience I've had with black was on a car I

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Garth
Laura , the reason the Gus and Susie Longbolts are so similar is because they are of the same blueprint, with slightly\ lighter tubing and a threaded stem denoting the Susie. If one wants a step-thru Riv has other bikes, or have a custom made. I know people balk at customs because of the

[RBW] WTB Medium ShopSack Medium

2021-12-12 Thread Ron Frazelle
Hey all, Looking for a Medium ShopSack in Olive, Tan or (preferably Khaki #9). Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Forthcoming Rivendell single speed, per Blahg

2021-12-12 Thread Garth
It seems to me Patrick you're questioning no one but your own question. You're gonna ride where and how you're gonna ride regardless of what anyone says. All the deferring to "technology" is but more of the same old worn out systems of faith/good vs. evil/dual-ism. That it's presented or

Re: [RBW] Re: Show me some bikes with black components

2021-12-12 Thread lconley
I have a Neutrino also, but is has a lot of purple Paul components. It is kind of a replacement for my Bike Friday, that I no longer ride, due to being too heavy for the Bike Friday now. My Neutrino is a single speed. As Joe says, it rides pretty normal. I haven't done any long rides on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Laura
iamkeith, no worries… in my angst-filled journey of new bicycle calculations, many factors have influenced me. Leah… I favor lugs & fillet brazing! For me, it is an investment worth making. In my humble peanut gallery opinion, they should have made the differences between the Gus & Susie

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Leah Peterson
To FURTHER foul up the decision-making process, did you all read in Grant’s Blahg that they are working on the Roscopus? See below: 3. Rosco-Plats: Like the Platypus, but less lugged, and with 100 percent straight, strong, safe, beautiful CLEM forks that just happened to have the threaded

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

2021-12-12 Thread Fullylugged
To Doug's comments on Clem L: I put a local rider with spine issues on one about 2 years ago to suit her need for a comfortable upright ride. She is mostly on pavement, but some of that is coarse chipseal. We built the bike with Continental "Basketball" tires instead of Schwalbes to get a