I was looking for a serious touring bike but the offerings from Trek, 
Specialized, etc., were all going to require some change to meet my 
desires.  Then I read a road test in Bikecentennial (now Adventure Cycling) 
by John Schubert.  His bottom line was if you wanted a serious touring bike 
that you didn't have to fiddle with, the Atlantis was it.  Rivendell proved 
to be so helpful in specing parts that I wanted that it was a simple 
choice.  20 years ago, the premium for an Atlantis vs a Trek 520 was was 
only a few hundred dollars & I was buying the bike to ride forever (my 
forever; the bike will outlast me).  20 years later & thousands of touring 
miles show I made the right choice.  

I did know what a lug was but only because I thought that's how all bikes 
were joined.  But then it had been 20 years since I'd bought my previous 
bike.  

dougP

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> Funny, I just responded to Laura's thread and put my story in there.
>
> Steel frame
> Rim brakes
> Upright riding habit
>
> I was riding a 1990 Specialized Hard Rock mountain bike that I liked but 
> didn't love any longer and wanted something more comfortable.  I knew I 
> wanted upright riding habit to alleviate my neck pain and rim brakes.  I 
> tested every bike in my city that fit my on-paper requirements.  After a 
> dozen rides, I realized I liked the ride of steel framed bikes (including 
> my current Hard Rock) over aluminum.  I couldn't understand the value of 
> complex disk brakes on a simple road bike.
>
> Next came internet searches for steel framed bikes.  I then read a forum 
> Q&A and the group agreed that the Betty Foy was the best bike ever made. 
> Who is this Betty Foy?  Eventually it lead me to this group and Rivendell.  
> I had never heard of Grant, Rivendell, XO-1 or Bridgestone before.  I read 
> everything I could about Rivendell on the internet, their website and this 
> forum.  I devoured "Just Ride."   Our philosophies jived. I found my 
> "people."  I am so grateful.
>
> I called Rivendell and spoke with Grant, who at the time I had no idea who 
> is was, but he was so nice and informative. 
>
> Also, and this is important, I was able to drive to a dealer and test ride 
> many Riv models, not just see frames and geometry charts.  This was BIG for 
> me, as a non bike-knowledgeable person, whose most expensive bike purchase 
> was $300. Yes, I was now willing to spend more on this one bike than all my 
> bike purchases put together for my entire lifetime.   Riding my Rivs have 
> made me so happy.
>
> BTW, I had no idea was a lug was until this group.
>
> Roberta
> ex-Joe Appaloosa
> current AHHilsen
> current Platy
>
> On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 3:53:10 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>>
>> I see Laura B’s thread about Susie vs. Platy, and Iconley’s timeline with 
>> 15 Riv bikes, and so I thought I’d ask:
>>
>> What made you buy your first Rivendell bicycle?
>>
>> Not “What do you like about Rivendell bicycles”, or “Why did you buy a 
>> second one?”, but why did you buy your first?
>>
>>
>> In my case
>> I wanted steel, because I liked the feel over aluminum (carbon was just 
>> starting).
>> I wanted lugged steel, because I think I think a lugged steel bike is 
>> awesomely pretty.
>> I got to ride a friend’s Sam Hillborne in 2010, and it fit like a glove, 
>> and I remembered that.
>> So when I retired in 2014, I bought a Sam.
>>
>> Now I could go on about how I love my Sam, but that’s not the point of 
>> this.  It’s to find out why you bought your first.
>>
>> Did you Google “Rivendell” one day and stumble into the bicycle shop 
>> instead of the Tolkien book?
>> Did you want a bicycle that was at home on dirt roads, where the 24mm 
>> tires of a good used 80’s road bike just couldn’t cut it?
>> Do you think Grant Petersen is a bicycle god, and you’d buy anything that 
>> he designs, once you could afford it?
>> Are you into the “waxed canvas and square taper” kind of mindset?  
>> Did you get a Riv because it was a boutique bike, or in spite of that?
>>
>> Difficulty- no pictures, unless it is of a Riv in a tree with “A guy told 
>> me I could have this for free, if I climbed up and got it”.
>>
>

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