Hi Joe. Along the tube (a slight sloper) I see 25"/63.5cm center to center.
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If interested, see some pics at instagram:
www.instagram.com/bguthrie79
If really interested, we need to talk wheels. Dyno wheel shown stays with me.
Original front Atlas-rim Riv wheel is yours.
You choose between the wide, stiff, colorful 700c Clem wheel shown (my fave) or
the original rear
And the wheels are probably not actually built by Rich Lesnik, as they don't
have his HoH label. They are from Rivendell, though. My original statement was
not as precise as a sale demands. Sorry.
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Part of the batch of Rivendell prototypes that initiated the now-omnipresent
long chainstays. I bought it from Rivendell in Feb 2015. Fully lugged, built by
Mark Nobilette in USA with swoopy asymmetrical extra-stays. This one is 57cm,
brown with cream lug cutouts trimmed in gold, and has the
Another scenario on the sidewalk: if I were to ride my bike past a mom and
child who are walking that sidewalk, instead of dismounting and walking by
them, is the mom's perspective that I am operating a vehicle illegally on the
sidewalk and endangering her child not spot-on? Is riding with my
Leah, because the car always wins, I agree with your use of sidewalks when
available as alternate to busy or speedy roads, especially when riding with
kids. He sounds like a driver bound for disaster, deserving special awareness.
Wouldn't it be neat to track his phone location for the safety of
I love (and have) a metal-colored bike, and I can see how that new silver
Appaloosa might have functionally and aesthetically replaced the first Atlantis.
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Cash flow drives an owner to all sorts of measures.
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Bullmooses on MB-1 have cork tape wrap for base with newbaum's color tape wrap
over top. They feel nice. My hands are average size.
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Beautiful, thanks. I want to be there.
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Wasn't that last bit a port-a-jon sliding past and tipping over? Nightmare
scenario.
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Interesting, and thanks, Bob. I visited a local bike shop last night for tuning
help with an 11-spd drivetrain for my son in law. Taken aback by an e-mountain
bike display. Discussed e-bikes and progress with a thoughtful senior employee.
He sees that change will occur, trials will sort errors,
I changed my '72 Sports Tourer from 27" to 700C when the soft old spokes
started breaking. I liked the Maillard hubs, slotted like Phil Rivy's, and the
14-34 freewheel was perfect, so I cut out the spokes, polished up the hub
components, and shipped them to the best wheelbuilder in the land.
Hi friend. If you wish to exchange one of the later Blue woolywarm sweaters,
especially a cardigan or vest, for money, please advise. My green XXL cardigan
just spent 3 nice hrs on and off an afternoon ride, and the blue will be put to
use riding, camping, running a cold sound board - places
Where you live tho. What a beautiful picture.
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Tom, I was watching that frame before you bought it, and love how you built it.
Much interest and limited resources. Hang in there.
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Testimony. Just rode my 60cm Sam to local coffee roaster/microbrew taphouse,
where I sit sip type. 89pbh is good on that thing, too. Jumps under foot.
Albatross, bullmoose bosco, and dirt dropped noodles to date, all full of
delight. Mine started that same green, now in pewter and cream. Make
First time I saw this cover I noted "with Mary Anderson" and I like that.
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Helpful, thank you all. In case my wife joins me, a big 2-person sounds right,
although she wants to just meet me there with the camper :) Wanted a Hilleberg
(seemed like the Rivendell of tents) but taking good advice to start cheap. Eye
on a Eureka Spitfire - under $200, long and tall, not
I love my contrasting crotch, thank you. When those pairs are clean I go-to.
Still have a crotch in my boosa shorts, thanks to the insert.
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Having fun with choosing. One of the onliners lists the BA Seedhouse SL2 at
3lbs 16oz. Marketing...
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Thanks, friends. "Riding there" is the new part of this for me. We started in a
Sears tent, upgraded to a nice Eureka for 10yrs, got a second Eureka when
daughters needed some space, then went along with a pop-up camper to preserve
unity. Itching to go back to a tent, and S24O is an ideal
State parks within 30 miles on 3 compass points, and I have yet to do an S24O.
This is my year. What tent do you recommend, please? And thank you,
Ben
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Was sitting in church yesterday, thinking about the rich man and Lazarus, and
added up $240 of Riv-sourced wardrobe du jour. No more than a suit would cost,
but I am not that story's Lazarus, for sure. I buy from RBW when I can, and
enjoy it. "You do you."
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Ride difference between my Sam and my Appaloosa (prototype) seems to be in the
40mm vs 50mm tires on them at max clearance. 50 lets me run lower pressure and
rides softer. The longer stays don't make much difference to me.
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I need a 700C rear wheel. If that's a clem 700c wheel, i will buy it.
Ben
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Post-dyno, my spare wheel stored best under another bike purchased less a front
wheel. Keeping that thing around can play tricks on you.
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I like cantis. They look interesting, and it's fun using something that I can
see operate. XT cantis on my MB-1 perform fine on steep and fast descents at
Brown County State Park here in Indiana. Putting a Fred Flintstone foot down
could suffice for all my other rides, in comparison.
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Oh yes, go wide.
My 60cm Sam just got noodled with 48cm in a dirt drop stem, and I went from
unsure to big fan on the first 2-hr ride. The wide one fits interrupter levers
with adequate hand room. I don't notice any "splayed" sensation, whereas I feel
cramped on my vintage bike's skinny bar.
I just bought a pair from an ebayer about a week before Christmas. Looking
forward to trying out on our local New Years chili challenge.
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I slow such that I can ring the bell and wait for their response without
invading their space. If they wear ear buds, I slow and ring, and creep up such
that they see me peripherally and can react before I pass. In all cases I yield
my speed and momentum for the chance to make a positive
Now That made me laugh, you worrying about embarrassing the others. Good for
you.
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Well chosen, congratulations. I think that's a neat frame.
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Derrick's bike has Stampede Pass extra-lights on those new wheels. They were
hard to mount per the instructions. I might ride it after he does, but it'll be
new for him. Frame is a 10yr old silver Specialized Sirrus with chro-mo fork,
fits 32mm with fenders. That was the cheapest one in the
Building a Christmas bike for my son-in-law. Took several nights of sore hands
to get Compass 32mm EL mounted true on new Mavic Open Sport/105 wheels. He
won't know the difference, but they feel as good as a skinny can.
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I have enjoyed the shirts that Rivendell sells, and still wear some old ones
-Viyella overstocks, Rockmount varieties - and newer ones branded MUSA. My
shorts and pants will outlast me (except maybe the boosuckers), but I'll miss
those shirts in a few years. I will order mass qtys if the chance
Daughter's little black Clementine has a slingshot quill stem from an early mtb
with its original riser bar. Combo gives high bar and little retreat to fit
her, and looks cool.
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In 2013 I paid Riv to get my new Sam painted from forest green to metallic
pewter. Consider asking about a paint job to get the one you want as you like
it.
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1. I sit up, look around and enjoy the view, and drop down on the middle of the
bar for short grunt sessions.
2. +1 to old mountain bikes for long TT, quill stems, strong steel. '87
Schwinn (Giant) Sierra in my garage is that. Watch out for high BB as the
tradeoff, puts you higher in the air
The guy from whom I bought my yellow ST also sent a picture of his dusty 1970
in silver mist, actually in his attic. I tried several times to wake that one
up, too, but it's still sleeping in the attic in Cleveland. Ebay has a
Paramount P15 for $1450 right now, chrome Nervex lugs and silver
Before I could buy a Riv, I followed the recommendation by Sheldon Brown of a
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer. 120mm rear fits 35mm Paselas sans fender; stock
14-34-or-so freewheel and 54-40 Nervar crank; fillet brazed frame painted cool
lemon yellow; Brooks B15; to-die-for twin stick shifters all
Thanks, nice to see Indiana represented. We're camping and riding trails down
south in Brown County State Park right now - typing this at the picnic table.
Favourite rides of the year.
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I want buy the bullmoose bar if still available.
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2 daughters are the blessing of our lives. Seasons pass in life, huh? One
married and happy, one single and in youth ministry. We ride incidentally,
along the way, because we can and like to. It's a luxury to have nice bikes
available, nice to have any bikes available. Life is rich regardless.
The LORD bless you
and keep you;
the LORD make his face shine on you
and be gracious to you;
the LORD turn his face toward you
and give you peace.
Numbers 6:24-26
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Fascinating, Mark. I interviewed a toolmaker yesterday who rode his chainstore
bike to the interview. I dealt with those very questions. And I rode my bike to
work this morning.
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Wish my mystery bike would swallow those big tires. Very cool.
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I specifically asked Keven if I could still lift the front end up a curb on
this long bike before I bought his brown protoloosa. And if it would take a
kickstand. He called those mature bike priorities.
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I rode Pasela Tourguard in 700x35 for a year and flatted once on a busy street;
Lil Bens for 2 years no flats; 700x50 Big Bens for 1.5 years now, no flats.
Feel the sidewalk cracks much less through 50's than 40's. I like 50 for
commute comfort and 40 for zipping around lightly. No more Pasela
JUST finished a ride on my big MB-1, using 10cm dirt drop stem with original
straight Nitto bar. Many days of rugged trails like this. Wrists still want a
little bar retreat, and neck wants no additional reach. I think the Riv
Bullmoose bar would be perfect if retreat offsets the extra reach.
Steve, I love that image! My grandpa used to strike his match on his bald
scalp, which obviously impressed me. The 19th century created impressive people.
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Samsung S7 response, recently upgraded from Motorola Atrix. Love the photo
resolution improvement, helpful in my factory maintenance responsibilities,
although file size creates issues. My wife has an as-new Razor flip phone,
already a retro piece admired by 20-somethings wherever she flips it.
Sheila and I want to visit from Fort Wayne to ride the Monon trail from Carmel
into town. When we do we'll also come to see your shop, looks neat.
Ben
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I share a locker room with bradley (round) sinks and a floor fan, no showers.
Muggy mornings arrive early, take off sweaty cotton, put on dry merino and
cotton, then douse head in sink, towel off. That slows the sweat. Factory temp
is 90+ when outside is 90+, so not the last sweat I see that
Serious rock garden, man.
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Reminded me of shooting metal ducks in my wind-up shooting gallery with a
suction-cup dart gun, circa 1967. I thought it was funny, esp. the wry grin on
JW's face at the end. Obviously so ridiculous that it had no correlation to
reality for me. I've hunted, and bicycled, and watched westerns,
Hi Justin,
I didn't catch what kind of car door you have, but if it's the only entry,
maybe you could secure the bikes (and the other contents) by locking down the
door. The floor lug idea sounds promising; maybe apply that to the door and be
done with it. One item to lock (or lock two doors to
Clementine frame is due tomorrow! We'll give her a nice early mtb kit amd
holler back. Know there is fun afoot in Fort Wayne.
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Mark,
I felt like an ass when it dawned on me that I had purchased the very frame you
introduced to discussion. I can be awkward and slow that way. When I saw some
45's with white trim become available, I called Vince and changed our order. I
love that white trim! So if you have interest,
I found Grant's incident interesting because I did the same thing - not enough
chain for big-big combo, and it locked me up. My case was 54-34 combo on '72
Schwinn Sports Tourer, which I tried to hit after flying fast down a valley and
up the other side, fogetting to drop to the 30 ring. In my
At the other end of the "kid" spectrum, I just bought a black 45cm Clementine
blem frame. My 23 yr old daughter and I will transfer components from her '87
Schwinn Sierra ( BB too high ) to make this into her Boss Clementine mountain
bike. Gnar, etc.
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Jim, enjoy your new life! Available trumps perfect.
Ben
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If you're choosing between them before purchasing, and can afford either, then
you won't regret having the option to put more tire in the Atlantis. I have a
Sam on 38's and a mystery bike (long cool Sam) that rubs its 50's. I would
still like to run 2"tires with decent fender clearance. The
Handsome bike! Hearty approval.
I also swapped away a bullmoose bosco bar (from my mystery bike) but only in
order to gain adjustment of the bars angle. I LOVE the bullmoose for its solid
inflexibility, but sorely needed more down angle to reduce painful ulnar
deviation.
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Thanks Manny, fun to see your outing, and to read from you again.
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The Canada geese will be fine. They stay in our cold area year-round now, using
neighborhood ponds, golf courses, harvested fields. I didn't realize the
southwest was on one of their flyways. I would winter there if I could, too.
My brother-in-law the psychiatrist oversees all of the public
Looking forward to warm! While not wishing my life away, I am playing with
destination possibilities for a trip to celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary
in late March. What is weather like in the bay area around 23-30 Mar?
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I built an '80's mtb for my daughter using a RR rear and 8-spd indexed
shifters. It is wonderfully intuitive with the clickers - thumbs make it
harder, fingers make it easier. Then I found a new take-off RR XT for $20 on
the discount table at LBS, from a lady who hated it on her new bike.
Widest tire that will fit my fork and chainstays, then just enough pressure to
prevent pinch flats and rim damage in specific landscape. On a '90 MB-1 that's
a big Schwalbe Dureme after trying Kenda Nevegal and old WTB tractor treads.
Dureme:s are tough and roll easily where I like ro ride.
Sure would if I could. I enjoy your instagram, and suspect that somebody in my
family will be ordering a copper bottle for my brown mystery bike. Best regards!
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Essentially it's a man purse (european carry all) and I am ok with that.
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I like my grabsack. I use it for glucose meter, food, phone and keys on fishing
trips, for which it's big. It'll fit a paperback or a ballcap, too, and the 4
or 20 pretty stones I bring back to show my wife. The extra space is in the
flat bottom panel that creates some width, which is not a
Brown mystery bike with pretty long chainstays, and a large Saddlesack. The
large Nitto Big Rear Rack from my 60cm Hillborne didn't work because the front
of the rack pushed up into the center of the large Saddlesack, even with
setback of a Nitto quick-release handle. Rack was too far back from
I enjoyed your story, Leah. You're a good writer!
The new CEO I serve rides a carbon "triathlon" bike. When I met him we were
standing 20' from my mystery bike, and he was willing to take a look. Cast lugs
with gold-lined cutouts, lots of steel tubes (some curvy), leather saddle,
Tom, I've been looking forward to seeing your build. Are you still thinking
Henderson Schwinn?
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Interacting with Keven Mowen was fun, dynamic, and invigorating There's a cool
poster on my wall that reminds me of you, and there's a 73% dark chocolate
bike, too. Best regards, and a tailwind.
Ben Guthrie
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I would LOVE your pewter Hunqapillar, but I could only trade for it, which
would be a defeat on your quiver quest. It's a perfect fit to my bike wants,
though.
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I ride one of those Mystery Bike protovelos on 50mm Big Bens. Grant once wrote
that it was especially designed for flat-landish commuting. That's my modus
operandi, and we get along quite well. He wrote extensively in the Blug on what
he was up to while designing his own prototype long bike,
When outfitting one of the long bikes Riv sold off last winter, I wanted an
Edelux II, but they were out of stock and short of wire at 60cm. Brian said he
was going to increase standard wire length soon, but I was not patient. Bought
a Luxos U and like it, no problems through this commute
Hi Garth,
I bought one of the proto long bikes late in that program. Seems to me like it
was "an experiment, a step in the right direction, a successive approximation"
(says so on the decal) that led to the Cheviot, the first production long bike.
Mine has the horse head badge that will show
A brown "mystery bike" is my commuting bike. For me, the 50mm tires make it
wonderful, the long stays make it different, and the curvy tentacles make it
(nearly) unique. Based on my own saddle time on Sam and the long one, the
fat-tired Sam called an Appaloosa prototype, the one that started
It is confusing what fits what, and how long they actually are. When fitting
fenders to a Rivendell mystery bike, I found that the rear longboard is the
longest extrusion available in any given width/radius combination, so I used
two of those to make my set to custom length. Made me think it
Sounds fun Tony. Looks fun! Nuce bike. Question about RM013: how does your
hand and wrist position feel on the canted/angled brake lever bodies? You were
on drops a lot; did the levers force you there?
I am trying to choose between noodle and dirt drop bars on a sam, maybe
overthinking. Like
I enjoy flying on a rugged trail on medium tires in a skinny-tubed frame. I
get queasy thinking about some of those situations without the momentum,
though. When that rugged trail along a steep sidehill suddenly forces me to
stop and get off - there, didn't some of you just feel a flash of
I believe my '72 Sports Tourer has 14-34 freewheel and 54-40 rings. Each gear
seems to be the right space from the last one. It feels just right. Chromed
steel twin-stik shifters on the headset, 700x35 tires, centerpull brakes.
Riding it makes me happy.
My experience would not improve if a
The original 5sp freewheel that is.
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Thanks, guys, I had fun seeing it. What a beautiful dark blue sky there, too.
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Social media thrives because I get to create myself. Here's an attempt to tell
the bikey truth about me:
1994 Schwinn taiwanese cruiser, whitewall fatties, ss/coaster brake. From wife,
first adult bike, last from
Schwinn at a LBS. Commuted on it when gas hit $4.
2005 Specialized Sirrus. Liked
Hi Marc. I checked out the Barry Roubaix site. Race-oriented, naturally, so it
looked tough to me. What would our picture look like?
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After a recent group ride, parking neighbor and I started loading up our bike
pairs concurrently, he to a hitch rack on a diesel Super Duty, me to F150 bed
and back seat. I spread the blankets, laid mystery bike in the bed, rolled out
and secured the bed cover, then removed 47cm Betty's front
Glad you asked, as I am on the same quest with a 60cm Sam, now redundant in
upright trim to a mystery bike. So many good responses!
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Thinking harder for Bill brought to mind an old Reader story about a man for
whom a Super Duty fork and frame facilitated a life-saving lifestyle change.
Maybe this crown goes that way? Maybe that's Buffalo talk?
Ben
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This discussion has been helpful for me. Want to carry a big Long bike and a
tiny Betty Foy, both fendered, and the LBS acted justly by withdrawing their
offerings. Looking forward to your review!
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I ride nice bikes all the way across this spectrum, so while sitting out a
stormy day, I measured them. Stays first, rounded nearest:
46cm stable, smooth, fun down single-track - 49cm Schwinn Sierra -1987
43cm responsive, easy uphill/slow speed handling - 55cm Bstone MB-1 - 1990
46cm feels
My new issue of Bicyling mag has your bike on the cover. Story is about the
dude, no mention of the machine, but check out that bike. Lugs, fat tires,
discs, non-aero levers, dirt drop or woodchipper bar, basket, bags aplenty.
Magnificent. Story says he has a social media presence -anybody
Discomfort on flat bar got me searching for a more neutral wrist position.
Jitensha version just flexed my wrists outward, still not comfortable. An
albatross, angled downward is neutral for me, and comfortable. Less secure
off-road than the brace against a flat bar.
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Tom, your vida con velo consistently makes me smile. Thanks for kicking this
off and showing your lovely highlights. I will ride a 9-miler tomorrow before
daylight, and 26 miles home by way of a tool shop. Thinking picture will only
increase the fun.
Ben
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Unless warm, I wear my last pair of street shoes - currently Ecco something or
other. Sometimes sneakers, like when I am going to cut somebody's grass. I like
Chaco Paradox webby sandal-type shoes better than Tevas for warm weather
because they hide my hideous hobbit feet a bit more - but I use
Only 2hrs from Fort Wayne, fall camping in Michigan, and I'd like to meet each
of you. Please count me in if room allows. I will probably bring a long bike
with a horse headbadge. Thanks for sharing your ride with us!
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My wife rides a 47Betty. She uses panniers with a big (not very) Nitto rear
rack. It is solid and she has lots of space. Her bags came from Natril Gear.
I think Riv's hub area bags would be nicely scaled for the back of her bike,
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