Nice bike for the tall folks.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3386740125
Ride Safe,
Curtis
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I actually think the double top tube looks OK on that big frame.
Eric "but not for me" Daume
Dublin, OH
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Curtis wrote:
> Nice bike for the tall folks.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain
Surely you mean "just OK" as opposed to on all other bikes where the double TT
looks great. :-)
- Jim "2TT is now my favorite" Warren
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Eric Daume wrote:
> I actually think the double top tube looks OK on that big frame.
>
> Eric "but not for me
+one on looking great on all bikes. Benefits. A good hand hold when
picking the bike up rather than grabbing a single tubed version with a
frame pump in the way and a conversation starter.
just my .02.
~Hugh
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:53:25 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
> Surely you m
Second Hugh's comment, except that I'm too short so they just make me
envious.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:00 PM, hsmitham wrote:
> +one on looking great on all bikes. Benefits. A good hand hold when
> picking the bike up rather than grabbing a single tubed version with a
> frame pump in the wa
I have to say that I find double tts on any but the largest frames quite
frankly, silly. An extra tube just for looks? Or to provide a handle?
Each to his own, but I know I am not alone in my sentiment.
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Christopher Chen wrote:
> Second Hugh's comment, except
Now Patrick who isn't alone in those.
-Hugh
On Oct 16, 2013 8:08 PM, "Patrick Moore" wrote:
> I have to say that I find double tts on any but the largest frames quite
> frankly, silly. An extra tube just for looks? Or to provide a handle?
>
> Each to his own, but I know I am not alone in my sent
Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers
like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be
justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird
one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm
frame serve a
I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit
melodramatic isn't it?
On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, "Patrick Moore" wrote:
> Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers
> like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be
> justified, I f
Not at all. Of course there are far worse things to be sad about, but if
that were our only guiding principle for emotion we'd be unemotional about
much that we, in fact, invest emotion in -- double top tubes, pro as well
as con, for that matter -- and this list would not exist.
I admired Rivendel
I don't know if the Double TT is market driven, it seems to be a pretty
divisive issue. Far be it for me to deny anyone their feelings about
anything, especially Rivendell. But if the market is responding to what
they are doing they would be fools to not jump on some of the trends. I
would hate to
I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if
the frame took disk brakes (I ride 44 mm boutique, lightweight, and
expensive rims), I'd buy one in a NY minute, dtt or no. (Though I'd try to
disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing.)
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Pe
I am imagining Patrick hiring a painter to mock up the lower tt as a pump,
hahaha. Good times.
On Oct 17, 2013 12:31 AM, "Patrick Moore" wrote:
> I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if
> the frame took disk brakes (I ride 44 mm boutique, lightweight, and
> expen
I'd venture that we'd sooner see a third top tube (Quadrapillar!) than a
disk Riv.
Jeff "Them's The Brakes" Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:31:26 PM UTC+11, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if
> the f
Patrick,
Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing, Isn't that
style? Your style. The beauty is that you have a choice. but I have seen a
trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps,
dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth "Sad" about "st
I really like my DTT Hilsen. I hope everyone enjoys their bike as much as I
enjoy mine.
Ride Safe,
Curtis
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013, Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Now Patrick who isn't alone in those.
>
> -Hugh
> On Oct 16, 2013 8:08 PM, "Patrick Moore"
> >
> wrote:
>
>> I have to say that I find
Personally, I like the double top tube and think it is a fine marketing
tool. Makes the bikes look different enough from other modern steel
bikes. (Surly, All City, Handsome, etc.) Don't like the diagatube
personally, but that is my own problem. Still somewhat regret not
getting a Hunq. But am
There is lots of choice. Atlantis single top tube... Roadeo single top tube
AHH up to 67cm stt
The mud flaps are actually very functional and I like them better than the
heavy leather flaps I got from Peter white since they held shape and dragged on
grass less aggressively.
I can't speak for
Yep. That bout sums er up.
Best,
~Hugh
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Kelly wrote:
> There is lots of choice. Atlantis single top tube... Roadeo single top
> tube AHH up to 67cm stt
> The mud flaps are actually very functional and I like them better than the
> heavy leather flaps I got fr
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM, hsmitham wrote:
Patrick,
Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or something, Isn't that
style?
Actually, it was a joke. In real life I'd have it painted as a snake.
That's a joke too, though it might be a stylin' modification, too.
I don't intend to
Patrick,
I dig ya dude...sorry to hear you have a cold and haven't ridden lately.
Now I think you need a DTT so you can do the snake paint.
Best,
~Hugh
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM, hsmitham wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> Though I'd try
Sometimes a snake on a top tube is just a snake on a top tube. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick, for clarity, the mountain Patrick rather than the desert Patrick.
On Friday, October 18, 2013 12:00:12 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
> I dig ya dude...sorry to hear you have a cold and haven't
It's fairly easy to mount a pump so that it doesn't conflict with picking
up the bike and shouldering it to carry the bike. Here's a photo that
shows my Rivendell Road Standard with the pump (a Silca) mounted behind the
seat tube using a Campy "umbrella" style pump holder.
http://www.flickr.co
Ah...my favorite Rivendell. Every time the conversation turns towards the
current Rivendell design..double top tube, diagonal tubes, curvy stays,
beefy (my opinion) I think about what drove me to Rivendell in the
first place. Simple, clean,classic, proportional lines. I can't remember
the
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