As someone who a bit over a year ago was returning to the cycling world
after over a decade away, I was aware of how poor fit was. I'd tried to be
fit at an LBS. Failure. Then I bumbled into Grant's site and was blown away
by the simplicity and confidence. One measurement and we will fit you.
First as it seems often as soon as I post a reply to a topic such as this
with many posts it will soon be over! So for those that are over this topic
heere we go!
Mike wish that sticker was a button, I' d pin em every where, everyone
else, bike fit is important but not the expensive
I wonder what people did back around 1900 for fitting?
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What do all those daily cyclists do in third world countries for bike fit?
I am sure they aren't paying $250-450US for their fits.
And they probably have alot of us in the dust mileage-wise.
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
What do all those daily cyclists do in third world countries for bike fit?
I am sure they aren't paying $250-450US for their fits.
And they probably have alot of us in the dust mileage-wise.
And, from my experience, they
I was confused here , as SunTour HAS been around , I've seen their stuff
online since the 2000's.
from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunTour
In late 1989, Mori Industries Inc., a Japanese steel fabrication company,
bought Sakae Ringyo Ltd., which made handlebars, cranksets, pedals,
Since you asked:
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On Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:36:37 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
I wonder what people did back around 1900 for fitting?
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Wow! Cool pic. Where'd you get it? That looks like a really short reach
there.
Saddle 3 behind bb and bars 1 below saddle.
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On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 19:59 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Any fit based on measurements, whether with a tape measure or a body scanner
with laser beams, is merely a starting point, since no two humans are alike.
But the market for this kind of service is the elite cyclist. By
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 05:27 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Nobody disagrees that having good ergonomics can improve performance. But is
there a meaningful difference between the fit achieved by making measurements
in a low tech way, and the fit achieved by laser-guided body scans?
Indeed.
My Kellogg / Spectrum 30th Anniversary is definitely the most comfortable
bike I have owned. Tom Kellogg (who has a long standing relationship with
Seven and consults with them on fit and materials questions) uses a crusty
old Serotta stationary bike and a face to face interview to
I will be upfront and totally honest on this one. I used to work part time
for Roll:
and even more honest, that's me in the green shirt on their webpage (from
years ago)
http://roll-online.com/articles/roll-perfect-fit-pg154.htm
Not being 100% sure on how the computer was programmed, but I will
I will be upfront and totally honest on this one.
So every other post of yours without this pronouncement is less than
upfront and honest? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, April 12, 2013 6:47:24 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
I will be upfront and totally honest on this one. I used to work
Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective. There is just no
formulas for the nuances of the human mind .. and we sure as heck are not
human machines , so please ... don't treat them as such !!
I had a fitting once for a custom frame on a adjustable bike with some sort
of computer
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective.
Is that true? Then lower (or raise) your saddle by 3, move it forward (or
back) by 2, think some powerfully good thoughts, and ride: if it all is
subjective -- by which you mean
I've gotten pretty good over the years at sizing people up by just looking at
them and using intuition/experience. Even when I worked at a bigger shop where
we charged a steep fee for a seemingly sophisticated black-box fitting, much of
the time changes to saddle position or stem length were
Local-to-Jim-and-I bike builder Chris Kvale checks rider fit by going on a bike
ride with the customer to get an idea of riding style, position issues, etc.
The problem with bike fitting by measuring body parts is that bike fit is a
dynamic rather than static thing.
On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:47
While I have never had a fitting done the dynamic v static theme seems
accurate. I have ridden the same bike on the road and on the trainer at
home and the feel is totally different.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
Local-to-Jim-and-I bike builder Chris
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 06:24 -0700, Garth wrote:
Yep ... bike fit and feel is entirely subjective. There is just no
formulas for the nuances of the human mind .. and we sure as heck are
not human machines , so please ... don't treat them as such !!
I'm with Patrick on this: it's definitely
It is a mental game, for sure. I don't believe anybody when they tell me their
bike is comfortable. Is it really? Compared to what? I can't count the times a
customer on a horrible fitting bike tells me his/her bike fits well. I say, ok,
try this, and pull out a stock bike that's at least close
How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days of
following bike racing as a kid I recall the lamenting over certain
riders, Sean Kelley comes to mind. The bike fit experts said his seat
was way too low, he was too scrunched ... etc. etc. Yet it worked
for
Hey, Jim. Let me know when your Roll Body Scanner comes in at HC. I'd like
to schedule an appointment to better dial in the Ogre.
Thanks!
Shaun
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days of
following
This makes more sense -- I generally agree. But I would insist that the
object an subject aspects go hand in hand without either one being
negligible. After all, what we feel is due to what is out there -- in
this case, how our bikes are set up. I bet Voigt was cursing a blue streak
as he pedaled
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 07:13 -0700, Garth wrote:
How one FEELS on a bike , is Entirely subjective !Since the days
of following bike racing as a kid I recall the lamenting over
certain riders, Sean Kelley comes to mind. The bike fit experts
said his seat was way too low, he was too
I LOVED that movie Patrick Aahahahahaahah !
It IS a MAd Mad MAD MAD World Inded !
http://youtu.be/GiNrMy0nxWw?t=42s
On Friday, April 12, 2013 10:19:51 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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I recently received a sale catalog from a local bike chain. I found it
interesting that nearly every bike description in there mentioned
comfort... from $300 upright hybrids to $10,000 low-bar'd road bikes. They
even have some bikes supposedly built for the BORAF that don't sacrifice
comfort.
In the words of Stevil, one of my favorite blogging cyclist, My 100% not
giving a s$t beats your 8% faster.
Get the sticker here:
http://market.allhailtheblackmarket.com/market/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=79
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I'm with Patrick on this: it's definitely not all in your head. There's
physical stuff involved, too. Best intentions in the world won't make a
size 38 shoe fit a size 48 foot.
But you do not need a laser analysis to tell you that a size 38 shoe fits a
size 48 foot, right?
I was not
I'm finicky about fit because I'm very prone to ulnar nerve palsy and
wrist and thumb tendinitis if the bar and saddle aren't just right.
Also, too low a bar can very quickly give me a lot of neck pain because
I've got osteoarthritis issues there.
Are you saying the laser fit systems
Agree with Garth. A bike fitting system is fine to get you started but after
decades of riding, the last thing I need is a computer or expert telling me how
to do it right.
A young rider recently asked me about saddle height. I had to stop and think of
all the different theories (fashions)
Saw this on the news tonight about a new machine at an LBS. We all agree
that good bike sizing is important to comfortable riding, but is it
necessary to go beyond inseam height and a few other basic manual
measurements?
Any fit based on measurements, whether with a tape measure or a body scanner
with laser beams, is merely a starting point, since no two humans are alike.
But the market for this kind of service is the elite cyclist. By elite, I
mean spends a fortune. If one of these dudes is buying a $15k bike,
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