[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-07 Thread JoelMatthews
> Changing a flat tire in winter was an adventure, to say the least. Removing the Rohloff wheel with OEM drop outs was not a problem in the least. It had a quick release gear cable attachment. After that it slipped right out. After market build may be a different story. > But my chain tensio

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-07 Thread EricP
Steve does put it quite well. And have to agree with Jim T.'s addition. Had an 8 speed IGH bike setup for about a year. Changing a flat tire in winter was an adventure, to say the least. That said, in less extreme climates can see the appeal. But my chain tensioning attemps were sub-optimal.

Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Eric Norris
I totally agree with the need for variety. I have several geared bikes, several fixies, and now an 8-speed IGH on the Quickbeam. Each has its place. I was hoping initially that the IGH Quickbeam would be a great randonneuring machine ... that may not come to pass, but it's a fun experiment an

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 6, 9:17 pm, RoadieRyan wrote: > I did see a interesting solution from an LBS for drop bar IGH combo. > They put an extention on the end of the right drop and attached the > twist shifter to the extenstion so the twist shift was where a barend > would be.  It actually looked pretty nice. hu

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread RoadieRyan
I did see a interesting solution from an LBS for drop bar IGH combo. They put an extention on the end of the right drop and attached the twist shifter to the extenstion so the twist shift was where a barend would be. It actually looked pretty nice. On Dec 6, 2:35 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On De

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 6, 1:38 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > It does not, in fact, work great, but some may find it adequate. yes, I should have been more clear. the bar-end/travel agent hack seems to work just fine in friction mode. he rides quite a bit, but like you said - whether it will be fin

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread JoelMatthews
uot;quality" road style shifter > > > > the trigger and grip shift style ar whole inadequate quality-wise > > > > for anything but entry level city sorta bikes > > > > not necessarily how they work perse > > > > but asthetically > &g

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread JoelMatthews
> (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these heavy/draggy/ > hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which will > require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have worked > on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand the > appeal for most

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Alex
Thanks for all the information and advice, folks. It will help me decide whether or not to install an elegant but heavy Alfine system. Alex On Dec 7, 9:21 am, cyclotourist wrote: > Simplicity as in one shifter to cover a wide-range of gear ratios.  A 1X9 > system would work just as well, but I'

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Well put, Steve. I agree. Another big drawback with IGHs, in my experience, is that folks treat them as if they don't require maintenance, and believe that the hubs are somehow "sealed". They are not so much sealed as shielded - the nasty gunk gets in, and stays in, out of sight, out of mind.. Thi

Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread cyclotourist
Simplicity as in one shifter to cover a wide-range of gear ratios. A 1X9 system would work just as well, but I've observed newbies/kids don't get the whole two-shifters thing. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: > > I

Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: > I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set > up. I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to > thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH. Also, IGHs seem like > a cool deal for kids who are learn

Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread cyclotourist
I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set up. I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH. Also, IGHs seem like a cool deal for kids who are learning to shift and/or someone learning or re-learning to ride. Sim

Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread cyclotourist
gger and grip shift style ar whole inadequate quality-wise > > > > for anything but entry level city sorta bikes > > > > not necessarily how they work perse > > > > but asthetically > > > > and thats important to me i have to say > > > > pe

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
"using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a while - it actually works great." It does not, in fact, work great, but some may find it adequate. We set one up awhile back, and it shifted, but the shifts were not exact. It could be tweaked to shift better at one end or the o

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread JoelMatthews
ut entry level city sorta bikes > > not necessarily how they work perse > > but asthetically > > and thats important to me i have to say > > peace > > well behaved women rarely make history > _ride yr friggin bicycle_ > > > > > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09

RE: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Sarah Gibson
ect: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter > From: psh...@drm.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson wrote: > > ok this is only my experience > > but at acme > > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter &

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread R Gonet
ace > > well behaved women rarely make history > _ride yr friggin bicycle_ > > > > > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:00:10 -0800 > > Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter > > From: richard.go...@earthlink.net > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson wrote: > ok this is only my experience > but at acme > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode) > for use with internally geared hubs > with little success of quality shifting using an 8spd

RE: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread Sarah Gibson
hat can be used on road style bars be they drop or moustache etc peace well behaved women rarely make history _ride yr friggin bicycle_ > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:00:10 -0800 > Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter > From: richard.go...@earthlink.net > To: rbw-owners-bun

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread R Gonet
Is it possible to use a Shimano or Silver bar end shifter in friction mode? I'm guessing the answer is no, otherwise there would have been no need for the Jtek. However, I don't know why they wouldn't work. On Dec 3, 4:38 pm, Alex wrote: > Hi all: > > Do you know where i can find an 8-Speed Jte

Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread David Hallerman
That was true until recently. But in fact, one of Jay Guthrie's loved ones, his son Ryan, is now running the business. http://www.jtekengineering.com/ At this point, they're only selling the ShiftMate. But the website says "Other products will be added again in time." So I'd give Ryan a call,

[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

2009-12-06 Thread JoelMatthews
You may be out of luck for the time being. J-tek was a one person shop. The designer maker has cancer and is undergoing intensive treatment. As one might expect, he and his loved ones have a lot more on their minds right now than making new shifters. It does lead me to wonder at times with all